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He can. He should. And he will. And it’ll make no difference on the Dem primary. Sure. But in that scenario, you’re not getting world peace, you’re getting appeasement for ruthless dictators. What happens when Putin and Xi realize that US will not push back on them for wanting to seize lands from other countries? Do you think it’ll be world peace?
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20% is probably the high watermark for him. It’s likely driven more by name recognition (Kennedy) and as a signal that people aren’t excited about Biden (which makes sense since most Dems didn’t want him to run again), than RFK Jr.’s actual views. His odds for unseating Biden in the primaries are about 0% and a year from now we’ll all likely have forgotten about him.
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Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you: Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. Should he do it? Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind). Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave.
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Well that’s certainly a conclusion. A dumb one, but a conclusion nonetheless.
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Agreeing to the challenge is accepting RFK Jr.s claims as worthy of debate and gives the impression that there is a valid reason to believe them. Putting money up is simply a ploy to make it harder to do the sensible thing: deny this grifter a platform and the legitimacy he desires. It also makes the person making the reasonable decision into the bad guy. It’s clever, but wholly in bad faith.
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And what does it tell you?
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You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. It’s fair to debate the efficacy of different COVID prevention and mitigation policies, but what RFK Jr. is spewing is pure nonsense and debunked conspiracies. He’s a thread of some of the falsehoods he espouses, including that Wifi causes cancer: This isn’t Teddy Kennedy running in a primary against Jimmy Carter. It’s a nutjob crank being given a platform solely because of his last name and because far right actors like Steve Bannon want to use him to damage Biden.
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So if Ronald Reagan had a kid running in the GOP primary who believed that the Earth was flat and that Wifi caused cancer, but also said we should all live in peace with no wars, you’d view him as a legitimate anti-establishment candidate instead of a loon?
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Kennedy’s cause is anti-vaxx lunacy that will get people killed. That’s not being anti-establishment, it’s being stupid.
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I’m not so sure. You’re playing an asymmetrical game if you agree to this. You have to stick to the truth while they can just say whatever they want. What happens when they make an absurd claim you’re not prepared for? You can call is absurd, but they’ll just call you out for not being able to refute it (not because it’s true, it isn’t, but you don’t have the exact facts at the ready for it and unlike them, you’re not here to lie). Additionally, accepting this validates the whole idea of idiots and bad faith actors trying to goad people into validating their beliefs by treating their falsehoods as an opinion equally as valid as fact. Like debating whether 1+1= Banana. Why have that debate? It’s stupid. What if a bunch of morons got together $1 million dollars to get a parent of Sandy Hook to debate their claim that their kid was just a crisis actor? “It’s for charity, it could show people they are wrong about this conspiracy.” Sure. But it also dignifies and validates the bad actors. I don’t think we should blame someone for not taking up the dumb obligation placed on them by morons.
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This sums it up nicely:
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“Debate me, bro” is one of the dumbest things to come out of internet culture. Most Dems didn’t want Biden to run again. That doesn’t mean that they’d line up behind a moron like RFK Jr. It’s not a matter of “establishment” it’s a matter of having a couple of brain cells to rub together.
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The cult is afraid - and it shows
ChiGoose replied to BillStime's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Nobody has more contempt for Republican voters than Republican electeds and officials. -
Still thinking about me? 🥰🥰🥰 Maybe you should be flying the pride flag to represent your obsession. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🥰🥰🥰
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Name a Right Wing Position
ChiGoose replied to Backintheday544's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Girl, 9, accused of being trans at Kelowna track meet The grossest part is when you remember that the conservative solution to this is state-mandated child genital inspectors. I wonder who is going to sign up for those jobs? -
Case law and precedent did not support a charge against Hillary and it’s unlikely DoJ could have secured a conviction. So it’s not surprising he didn’t charge her. Though he then violated FBI policy to tank Hillary’s campaign anyway and likely handed the election to Trump.