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Maybe, maybe not. Not sure if that means anything if he did. It's like you're insinuating they ALL wanted to go somewhere else but they weren't wanted or pursued hard enough so they settled for the Bills.

I think Tim Settle and DaQuan Jones will tell you differently. Settled "whooed" in his press conference and Jones is from Binghamton.

It's fate. He is the final piece to bringing home the Lombardi.

They also explain what the Chief Statistician does as well. Did you miss the part where they describe what he's responsible for? What do you think he does then? Oh, the Titans absolutely do and proven it the last two years? Since the Jets beat the Titans last year, I guess that means they have a better roster lol. You think the better roster wins every time? If that's your philosophy, there should be undefeated teams all the time if they have the best roster. Jags have a better roster than us too I guess. If Josh Allen doesn't slip at the goaline, would that mean the Bills have the better roster? You're allowed to be wrong about the Titans having a better roster than the Bills. You're definitely alone with this thinking. If the argument is the Rams, Bucs, The only coach that I know of that didn't play any football was Todd Haley. But he also grew up in an NFL family where he learned from them. Yes I trust Bill Walsh and Vince Lombardi because they played football. I didn't specify NFL, I said played the game. Both Lombardi and Walsh played college football. I'm talking about some PFF guy who never, ever played the game. https://247sports.com/nfl/detroit-lions/Article/Detroit-Lions-TJ-Lang-Most-NFL-players-think-Pro-Football-Focus-is-garbage-107401154/ Is TJ Lang allowed to be wrong too? “My opinion is there’s no way you can possibly accurately grade offensive linemen if you haven’t done that job before in your life. A lot of these guys, they’re not qualified to be grading NFL players,” Lang told the Valenti Show on 97.1 The Ticket. “A lot of the stuff I realize is pretty basic, obvious information. If I clearly just get whooped and let up a sack, you can say, ‘Yeah, that guy let up a sack.'” “But they don’t know anything about identification, what offensive linemen are supposed to do. They think if a guy blitzes off the edge, that’s automatically the tackle’s block, but a lot of times that’s not the case. They’ve always graded me well, which I don’t mind, but I still don’t respect it,” Lang said. “I know most of the guys that I’ve played with absolutely hate it, just because it’s started to gain so much steam now where Sunday Night Football, Thursday Night Football, they’re actually showing stats up there for the players,” said Lang. “I think it’s absolute garbage and I think most players do.” “If a guy clearly gets beat, that’s one thing. But if you’re going to say, ‘This guy didn’t pick up the linebacker, this guy missed a blitz,’ there’s no possible way that you can know that unless you know what the offensive linemen’s responsibilities are. And nobody else knows that,” Lang said. “I don’t know what Arizona’s offensive line does. They might do something completely different than what we do. “Especially a guy sitting on the outside behind his computer looking at the game, there’s no way he knows what the hell’s going on either. It’s a total joke, in my opinion, as far as it goes grading offensive linemen.”

What makes the stat official? The NFL actually provides a guide for it. You can also just look on their website and they'll show you the official statistics. They don't recognize "pass rush win rate" as that's a subjective "stat" only used by PFF. https://www.nflgsis.com › gsis › stadiumguides 7 of 38 Chief Statistician The chief statistician is selected by the NFL League Office, subject to the Commissioner’s approval and shall have the responsibility to make decisions involving judgment, i.e., yardage on all plays, etc., subject to review by the League’s official statistician. The chief statistician at each game is to provide the news media with a halftime summary score sheet and at the conclusion of the game with a final summary score sheet. These forms are generated by the Game Statistics and Information System (GSIS) and the home club is responsible for duplicating the reports and distributing to all working media in the press box. In addition, the chief statistician shall, within an hour after the game, phone the League’s official statistician to answer any questions. The chief statistician shall compare the GSIS-generated statistics against any manually recorded play-by-play and/or statistics and notify the League’s official statisticians of any areas of disagreement between the manual statistics and GSIS (official) statistics; such notification shall occur within 24 hours after the completion of the game. What do these statisticians hired by the NFL do all day if they don't compute stats? Again, I think Simmons is a great player. I have never disputed that. If he was a FA and we signed him, I would be thrilled. What I disputed is your firm stance that he is the second best defensive player in the league. Your evidence is all subjective and you argue as in you can't be wrong. I mean you are still standing firm that the Titans have a better roster than the Bills. Yes, it's all subjective but the overwhelming consensus is that the Bills have a much, much better roster. You like to do research, show me any ranking from any site (except of course a Titans message board) where they the Titans above the Bills. It's not even close and you just want to be the only one standing on this hill. You forgot one important piece of PFF Analysts...they hire people from "all walks of life" and people who have never played before. That's an analyst you trust? I've never played cricket so does that mean if I can read a guide and teach me how to analyst a play? And yes, journalists also grade plays too. And to be honest, I think PFF is trash. I just used them because you were trying to use that as sufficient evidence. Eric Wood was on WGR talking about PFF and how it's not very reliable and suffers from context. He talked about a specific play where he was graded negatively. He said his job was to pull but the DT pushed the RG so far back into the backfield causing a traffic jam. Wood got tripped up and couldn't get to his spot to execute the block. PFF graded Wood negatively for not getting to the block but the RG wasn't graded negatively. Also the famous one. Some dude, possibly from England watched this Packers game and said "I don't think that's a good throw or a tough enough throw" LOL. https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/pro-football-focus-gives-aaron-rodgers-negative-grade-after-5-touchdown-performance/ On Monday night, Aaron Rodgers completed 24 of 35 passes (68.6 percent) for 333 yards, five touchdowns and zero interceptions. He did this against the impressive Kansas City defense, which had given up an average of 277 yards over the first two weeks, allowing five touchdowns, making two interceptions and sacking the quarterback eight times. Rodgers rightfully had all of the ESPN analysts fawning over his abilities, because, let's face it -- he's 31 years and is the best quarterback in the league right now. But not everybody was impressed. The folks at Pro Football Focus, who grade every single player on every single play on a scale from negative-2.0 to plus-2.0, ended up giving Rodgers a -0.8 rating on the night. Yes, a negative grade. Say what? PFF's Ben Stockwell tried to explain. Stockewell wrote that only two of Rodgers' touchdowns came after good throws. "The other three touchdowns, however, were passes thrown short of the end zone on speed outs to Randall Cobb. Were they bad throws? No, they were expected throws with the credit going to Cobb for fighting through contact or defeating the coverage with speed to the edge. That makes these zero-graded throws: Three passes that have a massive effect on Rodgers' statistical performance but do not increase his grade," Stockwell wrote. PFF also harshly graded Rodgers for a play on which he fumbled in the second quarter, as well as a third-quarter pass that should have been intercepted but wasn't. In fact, much of the "criticism" of Rodgers sounds incredibly similar to what PFF said about Brady when the website ranked as the 33rd best player in the NFL for the 2010 season. (That 2010 season, you might remember, was the one when Brady became the first-ever player to win the MVP by a unanimous vote.) Back in 2010, PFF wrote: "It's not that Brady (who isn't that far off from Drew Brees) isn't capable of making these [spectacular] plays, or isn't even making them, he's just not being asked to do it as regularly as Aaron Rodgers and others were. Consider it a compliment to the New England system that it doesn't put Brady in a situation where he has to constantly make breathtaking throws." And today, PFF wrote of Rodgers: "Rodgers did his job last night, but his job was executing simple throws, putting the ball quickly in the hands of receivers like Randall Cobb in favorable matchups on short throws, and allowing others to do the heavy lifting." (Brady, by the way, earned a 4.6 grade for his shredding of the Jaguars on Sunday.)

Yeah but he traded Dareus, Darby and Watkins the year before…curse him!

Isn’t Beane also responsible for the Front Office staff and Scouting Department? He’s responsible for developing that team too right? I am not behind the scenes or know what happens inside those closed doors but I would imagine Beane from day 1 had strong input.

Oh man.... First, PFF win/rate percentage is not an official statistic. It's a PFF journalist who is watching the play and determining whether or not they "won" the pass rush. Amazing how you say sacks aren't a measure of DT but then cite PFF pass rush win rate lol. Not only that, PFF bases their player rankings on the total data they collected and then rank after they grade them. It's not just some PFF journalist randomly coming up with his own rankings. https://www.pff.com/grades PLAYER RANKINGS The grades allow for easy player comparisons, whether using an overall grade or a facet grade. While we believe the grade is an excellent baseline for how well a player performed his given role, we also believe the using the entire context is crucial when evaluating players. GRADES VS. STATS We aren’t grading players based on the yardage they rack up or the stats they collect. Statistics can be indicative of performance but don’t tell the whole story and can often lie badly. WHO IS DOING THE GRADING? PFF employs over 600 full or part-time analysts, but less than 10% of analysts are trained to the level that they can grade plays. Only the top two to three percent of analysts are on the team of “senior analysts” in charge of finalizing each grade after review. Our graders have been training for months, and sometimes years, in order to learn, understand and show mastery of our process that includes our 300-page training manual and video playbook. We have analysts from all walks of life, including former players, coaches and scouts. We don’t care if you played. Well lets take a look at their grades which is how they rank the players. I'm not paying for PFF's site to get the total rankings but here, based on their formula measuring all the DT's....they just give the top 4. Aaron Donald being number 1. Where's Jeffrey Simmons? Well, he's on page 2. https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/di Oh CBS who you keep citing as gospel has him the 7th best defensive player in the league. How is him being the 7th best defensive player in the league mean he's the 2nd best in all the league? "Game-wrecker" and "One of the best defensive players in football" means he's the second best defensive player? Did all 50 of them say it? Send me the link where the consensus is Simmons is only behind Aaron Donald. Great, you posted the tweets again. I guess those opinions are the only one that matters. But Matt LaFleur, said the best defensive players are TJ Watt or Aaron Donald with a honorable mention to Cam Hayward. Let me guess Einstein....Kevin Cole from PFF opinion means more than LaFleur.

He needs to be removed from this board.

Much better. I like watching football in January.

@SDS Can we get this guy off the board after this disgusting take?

Mike Murphy, the SEAL who stood on top of a mountain peak to get a signal to call for help....in front of 200 Taliban. Not elite because he died. Risked his life to help his fellow SEALS, can't look at him as elite. It's totally disgusting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Murphy

It's amazing how confused he is. Then he says a Navy SEAL who is killed isn't an elite solider because he died. How disgusting is that?

Ahhhh...the cherry picking formula. "I will only accept opinions that I agree with!" That always works well lol. I chose PFF because you used multiple tweets that is your evidence that Simmons is the 2nd best defensive player in the league. You appear to have the impression that if a guy tweets how good Simmons is, that means its sufficient evidence he's the 2nd best defensive player lol. The general consensus for all the rankings is that Simmons isn't the 2nd best behind Donald or even close to it. He's barely in the top 10 just for interior lineman. But you feel since you said it and a few PFF tweets say how good he is, it's objective lol. Cherry picking! Lets take a look at your Titans having a better roster than the Bills. The general consensus is the Bills are at the top....1-3. The Titans, the best I've seen is #20. How are other opinions that much off? Like I can see if the Bills were in the top 3 and the Titans were just behind a bit....but that's just not the case. They're pretty much in the bottom half. All these rankings are subjective but you're really reaching when you have to jump the Bills by like 19 spots to overtake their ranking....like really reaching. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-all-32-nfl-rosters-ahead-of-2022-training-camp-bills-buccaneers-chargers-crack-top-five/ https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/34020426/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2022-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-every-starting-lineup https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2022-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-every-starting-lineup Are you really that arrogant that everyone else is wrong and you're right? You clearly think that with the "the whole forum needs a reading comprehension class". It's clearly a you problem.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2056842-a-homeless-person-reportedly-told-browns-jimmy-haslam-to-draft-johnny-manziel

It's better than "in the hunt".

Yeah I'm done with him after his "are you really elite if you die" when talking about the SEALS. Awful, awful piss poor take.

Create a thread about this and see what kind of response you get. What a POS thing to say. Any Navy SEAL that was killed in battle shouldn't be considered an elite soldier because he died. Literally, the most POS thing to say.

Navy Seals are considered the most elite forces. Therefore, they've never died in battle because they're elite.

So basically, there's only one elite team every year. I don't have your thought process and most don't. You once stated we should use an analytics guy to tell Allen or any QB where to throw the ball mid play. I should have never gotten into a discussion with you after that point after that statement.

Not the definition and the rest of this is just bad.

I'm not debating if he's good or not. I know he's good. I'm debating your claim that he's the 2nd best. "DT's are not ranked by sacks" but then you put a PFF pass rush win rate up there. Hey, PFF ranked us as the best roster in the NFL and the Titan's #20. What are your thoughts on that? They are off by 19 spots? Oh yeah and here's PFF's best interior defensive player ranking. Simmons #9! #9 just among interior lineman LOL! https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-interior-defensive-line-rankings-tiers-2022

Since Tiger Woods was the best golfer for a period of time, I would assume he won the Masters 15 years in a row. Because you know, he was the best.

"one of the most elite rosters"....so you're saying there are other elite rosters in the NFL? No way?! Because not the most elite rosters wins it every year in any sport. Were the Braves the most elite roster in baseball last year? Were the 9-7 Giants the most elite roster when they beat the undefeated Pats? My god dude. It's a team game in which multiple factors come into play.