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OMG do we work for the same company? You have what...8 shutdowns/outages a year with one very long one? I will be in Savannah, GA in a few weeks for the IP closure. But back to the thread, we have the people do to the work, we just got to get the motivated to do this type of work. This is why Charlie was against the H1B. Not to mention, they're very expensive and you aren't guaranteed to get approval. Yeah I know. We have automated ports here too. But also, shipping/receiving/logistics is not the same as heavy manufacturing maintenance and operations staff lol. I don't know how but we have to figure out how to get these people to do this work again. You don't need a degree for any of these fields too and can make a very comfortable living. Something else Charlie was a strong proponent for.

You are being disingenuous because twice, twice now I told you that your data doesn't include retirees and stay at home parents. That's about what, 17 million-20 million or so people? It completely skews your data dramatically. You know it would so you keep ignoring it. The difference between the people open for work and jobs available is about 200,000 difference. What happens when you just remove retirees? You know the answer but are being disingenuous. All major companies use automation so I have no idea what you're talking about. We aren't living in the year 2100 where we have fork lifts driving themselves and loading pallets and we don't have an automated machine to fix a broken down press section. What do you mean they don't pay much? Our entry level Engineers start out at about $82,000. Our hourly staff many times makes more than their Managers because they get OT and Managers don't. We have hourly operators making $130,000 everywhere. And I recruit from other heavy manufacturing companies and I know how much those are paying. Our entry level operators in the bigger operations are making like $22 an hour just starting out. You have so much misinformation man. Yeah I not derailing this thread anymore. Not going to break his narrative. This is Charlie's thread.

What do you know about the H1B? I know a lot about it. Let me see your knowledge of the H1B without copying and pasting something on Google you looked up. I work with Immigration Attorney's all the time so I know the process and the other bits of information.

I showed you the previous link with the number of jobs available and you discredited it. So I found the same data, from the same website but this one was a few weeks newer. At this point, you're being disingenuous. And you don't know what you're talking about again. What do you do for a living that gives you all this labor statistics knowledge? The reason why, specifically in heavy manufacturing, as to there are shortages is because the new generation of American's do not want to do this type of work anymore. These people are still working, but they prefer a more lighter manufacturing with temperature controlled plants, no weekends, no shift work etc..... The people are there, they just don't want to do it.

He had a global affect and it was mostly on American policies. That shows you the influence he had.

The shooter didn't want his free speech, Kirk converted I believe 4.4 million voters to the Red and they needed him to stop....so he was killed.

I spend about $600k a year on Staffing Firms for my really, really hard to fill jobs. They make that much money because companies use them all the time - because they can't find the talent for their jobs.

That does not include retirees or stay at home parents. That completely changes that data....you know that right? I posted a link to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, directly from the government, but it goes against your narrative. Okay here. Released just a few days ago with the same data. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf "Total nonfarm payroll employment changed little in August (+22,000) and has shown little change since April, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported today. The unemployment rate, at 4.3 percent, also changed little in August. A job gain in health care was" Again, this doesn't include retirees and stay at home parents or other reasons why they aren't working. Roughly 16% of Americans are retired and don't work. There are 11 million stay at home parents. That would be a significant shift in data and you're not going to acknowledge it. This is going to take some time to get him.

I listed the Bureau of Labor statistics and you invalidated it because it was 2 months ago lol. That is directly from the government. Did you know that those statistics don't include retirees or spouses that don't have to work like stay at home parents? I know my company doesn't represent the whole nation which is why I provided the BLS and Linkedin report. I have the pulse of the hiring market much more than you do. I directly am involved in it. We are so strapped for talent in certain areas where we are hiring people from other countries because there isn't enough of that skill set here. We have positions open for over a year because we can't find that specific talent. US Staffing Firms are a 200 BILLION industry. Billion with a B. How are they making so much money when there isn't jobs? I have been doing this for 15 years. You don't know what you're talking about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt

You're not really being obtuse about this are you? You think the job market landscape has dramatically shifted in 60 days or something? Am I lying about how many openings my company has right now? As in 9/11/2025? Linkedin itself has 4 million openings and that is just one platform. https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=4299423192 LOL, there's gangs everywhere. They're in rural areas too. Are you always the victim? https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/jr000251b.pdf

I definitely think there is. The black homicide rate is nearly 4 times higher than the national average. 26.6 per 100,000....that's just homicide. The number one cause of death for the black community ages 18-29 in homicide. Vast majority from other black people. The number one cause of death for the white community 18-29 is car accidents. I got that stat from another podcaster who put up a graph from a government site. It wasn't Kirk.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics currently has 7.2 million job openings. Yeah, no jobs open. My current company has 317 openings. No jobs right? https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htm There are currently 7 million people unemployed in the US. What does rural vs urban have anything to do with anything? Its still poor, its still substandard living.

You have so much wrong information. I work in HR, there are so many jobs available lol. The biggest cry from the EBT people is to keep their benefits, they have to work at least part time...part time. They just don't want to work. Stop being a victim. My company alone has like 300 right now. The issue there isn't enough qualified people who want to do the work, not that there isn't enough jobs. I work directly in this man.

That has nothing to do with anything. If your philosophy is correct, the poor white people in substandard housing would be as equally violent....but they're not anywhere close to it. That's the point and the point you were trying to make. If you are white, you have a 30 times greater chance to get attacked violently by a black person than a white person attacking a black person. And yet, we are the dangerous ones?

They as in the student population. I had a class of 14 and only about 2 of the kids were okay. The others were just there because you can't drop out of school until they're 16. You could raise the salary for these teachers by 50% and they still wouldn't do it. It's not worth being violently threatened for a job...weekly. It's not just the violence, it's the disrespectful talk. They don't want to be there, I am an inconvenience to many of them. They let you know it.

There are 76 million poor white people in the US and that live below the poverty line. 6 million white people live in substandard housing. 2.6 million blacks live in substandard housing. There are 7 million single white mothers. There are 4 million single black mothers. I mean come on.

He would have a good school with good teachers if they showed respect towards these teachers. What good teacher wants to teach at a school in which they get threatened on a weekly basis? This is not hearsay, I directly experienced this and watched others. This school had a policy that only one kid in the bathroom at a time because you can't leave the kids alone for even a second because of fights. Why should a good teacher be subjected to that? Why can't this teacher have a fair playing field with students?

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Did they threaten to kill me and key my car 4 times because they were starving? I mean they literally used the word "hate" towards me but they didn't hate me? There is no barriers. You can succeed if you want to succeed. Did you know they raised the qualifications to get into college for Asian people but lowered them for black people? Is that a level playing field? Is that making it harder for Asians or harder for Blacks?

If the kid on Grape Street has a criminal record and bad grades....that's they systems fault? If the that same kid on Grape Street has no criminal record and good grades....what's stopping him from being successful? Does that mean that every single poor person isn't given a fair shot? People really don't realize this but there is significantly more poor white people in this country. 20 million white Americans live below the poverty line. 20 million that won't get a "fair shot". Johnny Rural is getting the same minimum wage job as your poor black person. 76% of white people make the federal minimum wage.

I didn't say that. I said he has the same opportunity if he wants to take that. Ben Carson's mom was illiterate. He became one of the most successful Doctors in the history of medicine. It was harder for him unfortunately, like a lot of kids who grew up poor regardless of race....but it can be done. Just because someone has to go through more adversity doesn't mean it can't be done. Not every white person grows up with a silver spoon or trust funds. I don't know a single person in my life that has a trust fund.

Well since I have direct experience with this lets comment. How did the other ethnic groups do it then? Every single woman in the ENTIRE US wasn't allowed to buy homes, own property, run for government positions, couldn't vote.....they were OPPRESSED at the same in the 20th century. Women weren't allowed to vote until 1920! 33% of millionaires today are women. The Jews are the richest subculture and they just went through a genocide 80 years ago. Again, there are more poor white people in this country and they aren't anywhere near as violent. Poor white people have had cycles continues. What hope do they have in the future? It seems you just want to play victim. Do you know why black schools aren't as good? It's because of the students. I used to teach at a predominately black school in Los Angeles. They couldn't keep teachers because they would steal from you, damage your car and straight up attack/threaten you. My car was keyed 4 times, my lunch was stolen all the time at my desk where I just stopped bringing food. I had my life threatened multiple times. I guess I'm racist for quitting and every teacher who doesn't want to deal with this is racist. So why its it white peoples fault that black schools aren't as good? Whose fault is that only 1% with HS degrees become millionaires? The system?

Most people are struggling to pay for groceries with their own money but the people who don't have money get FREE food? FREE cellphones? FREE utilities? Why do the ones who don't contribute anything to society get to eat better than us?

Everybody has the same opportunity here. There isn't an unlevel playing field. Anyone can be successful if they work at it. I mean hell, you can get rich now just posting content on social media. Anyone can be successful here....anyone.