ThunderGun

Thanks, that was what I was trying to get at. I’m no Rex fan either, but this team was a middle of the road team with him, and will likely continue to be so under McDermott. I don’t hate McDermott, but many overrate him based on the fact that he happened to be the coach who “broke the streak”, despite only having one more win than Rex’s first season, and and the same record as Marrone in his last season. Also, side note, if Rex and the Bills don’t get jobbed in MNF against Seattle, and they finish 8-8 for the second consecutive season, what happens last year? Does he still get axed? Is Whaley still gm despite his monumental whiff on Shaq Lawson? It’s not as if McDermott has done something no other Bills coach hasn’t in the last 17 years, he just happened to get the 9 wins under the right circumstances... He definitely gets a pass this year no matter what the W/L record due to OL retirements and roster turnover, especially at QB, but if he doesn’t right the ship by next year I hope he isn’t given special consideration for “ending the drought” when that had just as much to do with Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd performing a miracle worthy of canonization, as it did himself. edit- and OP is nuts, to even mention this squad and Super Bowl era teams in the same breath. Those 90’s Super Bowl era teams would be dominating the NFL now, and certainly would’ve brought home a Lombardi in this era where you can’t play defense. Some people don’t realize just how special that squad was, if you did you wouldn’t mention them in the same breath as this garbage they are putting out this season. Find me one team right now that has as many possible Hall of Famers in their prime as those teams did. Its a shame they didn’t just bring one home bc the world will never truly appreciate just how special those teams really were.

I personally would, gladly. What’s he going to punch me or something for stating facts and pointing out the point differential was embarrassing last year? That they had no right being in over the Chargers who destroyed this team??? Or that they don’t get in if Dalton doesn’t perform a miracle??? How about their overall defensive and offensive rankings? Crazy thing is McD backs into the playoffs at 9-7 after an insane play by Dalton, and the snow game which easily could’ve gone either way, while Rex is routinely bashed as a terrible mistake despite finishing 1 game worse in his first of just two seasons while McD is regarded as some kind of wunderkind for literally finish one win better... I would bet good money that this team wins less than 7 games this year and after two years McDermotts W/L is worse than Rex’s. Dude is is terribly overrated, and likely the second coming of Dick Jauron in both his conservative approach to the game and “bend but don’t break” defense, but gets the benefit of the doubt because he won 9 games, technically ended the drought, and didn’t quit like Marrone...

Coleman is a top 20 pick coming into his 3rd year, and has had to learn a whole new playbook. Im not saying he is a lock, but if they are going to keep guys based on potential and where they were drafted, then Coleman should probably stay and be given a chance to develop. He was also injury plagued the first two years, Zay just dropped everything last year, even likely costing the team a W against Carolina.

At least he is consistent. I’ve seen put one of those out there for the opposing D at least once in every game he’s played in a Bills uniform.

Name one legitimate positive takeaway from the first half? “No injuries” doesn’t count... This team got lucky and backdoored their way into the playoffs off a miracle play and terrible tie breaker rules (Chargers made this team their B word, finished 9-7 and miss the post season?). Just go look at the teams point differential last year, as well as overall offensive and defensive rankings, doesn’t look like a playoff team. This was a fringe playoff team that lost their top two interior linemen and did nothing to replace them. Lost their starting MLB and #2 CB and as of right not have not replaced them with better players. I like to think Edmunds will be better than Brown, but atm it isn’t an upgrade on the field. No real solid help in WR group. Explain how this team is poised to do anything relevant this season??? Holes everywhere on this team with no depth. No point in holding onto McCoy, he isn’t in the long term plans. I’m sure Philly would love to have him back. Clay, Hughes, Lawson, anybody with value and clearly not in the long term plan should be traded while there is still value to be had, and focus on building next year around Allen.

At the point I’m pretty sure everybody is aware that this team is not making the SuperBowl, agreed??? Trade Shady for some OL help if it’s there, or at least a decent draft pick so the Line can be addressed in the draft. He still has value to a team looking to win now (draft pick in that scenario). If somehow this team plays it’s way into wildcard contention, ride with Ivory, Murphy and whoever is picked up on cut down day. Comb the waiver wire for DBs, Vontae has hit the wall... hard. Trade Clay for whoever will take that contract. Keep Lee, Croom, O’Leary and Thomas. Literally will not miss him.

Allen will be getting a David Carrted off the field if he is forced to play behind that shitshow of a line. Play Peterman or McCarron, who cares, they both won’t last 16 games with their lack of mobility, and especially with McCarron’s propensity for being sacked all throughout TC and the first two preseason games. Hopefully we can just get 8 or so out of each.

And there it is... did did I do that????????

Kind of a miracle that he didn’t. There’s still time...

This game literally could not have gone worse.

Yep, I am definitely against trading the first for Mack now, that’s definitely a top 3 pick... It’s only preseason but this is what McDermott puts out on the field after an entire offseason coming off a playoff appearance. My expectations weren’t high for this season, but this **** is embarrassing.

Last time I saw a QB get “protection” like this, he set the NFL record for interceptions in a half...

Oh look, another Ginger joke... verrrrrry funny, ha ha ha.

I get it, especially with losing Wood AND Richie. But keeping garbage like Ducasse and bringing in garbage like Newhouse, there had to be better moves to be made.

Get Josh out, he’s fine but these reps aren’t helping. This isn’t on him, the OL is just so insanely bad. Would rather have Preston, Gordy still on the home sideline rather than Edmunds, that’s for sure.

I was thinking the same thing. It’s like the NFL version of Wyoming. No OL, no real WRs... why would you want to surround your future franchise QB with any weapons or protection?

Yeah Vontae hit that wall it looks like... hopefully still shaking off rust? this whole team looks bad

It’s preseason.... why would you not challenge????

Calling the OL “Swiss cheese” would be an insult to Switzerland... Allen is gonna get David Carr’d behind that garbage.

If this is the “dress rehearsal”, this team is sofa king screwed...

There is a good SSRI? Any that don’t obliterate the sex drive, cause headaches/weight gain, and legitimately help with “general anxiety disorder”, while not having severe withdrawal symptoms when you feel ready to stop? Asking for a friend...

Idk how much he signed for, but Demarcus Ware definitely played a key role in getting the Broncos over the hump and winning a Chip.

Hughes or Lawson and a first? Then if Murphy ever gets healthy, this defense will just be a Biscuit away.

Disagre... it’s not the stats, it’s the way he does it -defenders in his face, showing poise and ability to climb in the pocket, and not having slow as !@#$ eyes

Yeah, from THIS coaching staff. Why wouldn't they have worked out the flaws in his game sooner if they were any good @ Wyoming? Seems like Allen is pretty fast on the uptake, and has rectified many of his issues quickly. That's all credit to McD's staff, not Wyoming. This team has two healthy QBs. One set the NFL record for INTS in one half, and should've been intercepted for a pick 6 on his first throw with the 3rd team... The other has every physical intangible a QB could possibly want, was the 7th overall pick, and seems to be acclimating to the game much faster than anticipated. Hopefully this staff just cuts the BS, and makes Allen the starter. Starting Peterman is just a waste of time, and feels like a "Jauron" type move. No point in prolonging the inevitable.