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McDermott disagrees.

Boom!!! Of course he's playing. Who's the guy who said McDermott would keep him on the bench for his confidence

You know the ole saying about putting lipstick on a pig... Allen isn't an idiot.

Maybe concussions are like drinking alcohol... everyone knows it's bad for you, but it's affects some people significantly worse long term than others. I drink every day and hit my head randomly rather frequently, but I'm still all right... despite what my wife says

Josh's ability to play will hinge purely on whether he clears protocol or not. If you try playing that game you're talking about because of his confidence and poor play last week, I would argue it has the opposite effect. He's a competitor. If he's healthy and kept off the field, that's more of a shot to his confidence FOR SURE than him MAAAAAAAYBE playing poorly.

It's this type of arrogance over here that's the reason I don't bother engaging. There's arrogance on the football board... but it's football and even there it's a watered down version of the bravado over here. I lurk here enough to see that much of the "sourcing" you guys over here is utter crap. But they fit with your own biases... so you roll with them.

That is what I assumed he meant, even though he basically said the opposite... maybe he should have paid more attention in school to those dishonorable educators he believes are just below tax collectors

Was "belies" really the word you meant? Engage with truth? That's a laugh. So much of the crap you guys dish out over here is either untruths, twisted truths, truths buried in swimming pools of bullcrap, or the occasional truth. Engaging in these conversations is something over here I typically avoid because of all the bullcrap floating around amidst the occasional truth. So what's the point? But if you're saying you're in on the bet (is that what you're saying?) then awesome. You can find out how honorable or dishonorable I really am if I lose.

What's up Troll? Man... your life must just suck. I couldn't care less if you don't believe me. @Deranged Rhino and I have a bet and I'll honor that bet. You wanna partake? You seem like you want a new avatar, too

I understand what you're doing, and I've got nothing against you. But I'm not interested in participating in that discussion with you for a handful of different reasons. 13 months and we find out who wins. Truth is, I believe if Trump isn't President in 2021 you guys are going to come up with more screwball excuses than Democrats did in 2017. Oh... and @TakeYouToTasker ... yes of course I'll honor my bet. It's a message board avatar. I don't care. But will @Deranged Rhino honor his bet?

Your obsession with me is oddly flattering

What heartache? This weird world in your head must be interesting at least, probably pretty miserable and lonely, though. What does not talking about any issue have to do with honesty? Do you know the definition of the word?

Raved about him? Find where I raved about him, please. Not even getting baited into your bullcrap. There was a reason I told you Field vs. Trump. Still not clear who'll be in that field because there's a long way to go til the primaries, but I'm still very confident in that bet. You wanna argue about Biden? Go ahead. I'm not going to be a victim of the moment here. Enjoy your moment, if that's really what you think you have. Running from what? I've been honest. Have you? You're wildly mistaken. I'm not running from my support of WHOEVER the Democratic candidate is. To clarify my earlier positions, it was ALWAYS that Biden was/is the most likely Democratic candidate, not necessarily that he would be the BEST President among that field. But ANY of them would be better than Trump.

What was our bet again? Oh yeah, ANY Democratic candidate vs. Trump. Why do you keep forgetting? Someone will pound Trump like a drum, Biden or not. Maybe you should like stop trying to lure me over here. The hypocrisy is a little ridiculous. Apparently polls matter when they fit your narrative but are meaningless when they don't.

We all know you'd love for Allen to sit for another week so you can push your "Allen sucks, Barkley should start!" narrative all the way through the bye week. But sorry, if he's cleared, he starts. Honestly if he wasn't involved with meetings or anything today, I would have been more inclined to want Barkley to start just because of the missed practices for a young, still raw QB like Allen. But looks like he's back, so let him start. The Patriots are the #1 D in the NFL right now. The Bills are close behind. Yes, the Patriots made Allen look awful. But don't forget that the Bills D made Brady look pretty bad, too. Moving on...

Sounds like he's in what... stage 3? Good sign for starting on Sunday.

Oh My God!!! 31 pages of nonsense!!! The reality is that Josh Allen had one utterly atrocious game and 3 games where he showed a lot of promise Week 1 against a Jets team WITH Darnold and very hyped in the offseason and Allen and the offense essentially moved the ball up and down the field at will. The problem was turnovers, obviously. But at least half--if not all--turnovers were not on Allen, mostly or entirely. Yet, he led the team back in the 4th quarter down 13 on the road to win. And he was accurate all game. Solid. Week 2 against the Giants on the road again Allen was fantastic in the 1st half. Threw for like 220 yards in the 1st half alone. Threw and ran for a TD. 3rd Quarter clearly the entire offense just took their foot off the gas, which is something I absolutely loathe but you almost have to expect it from any defensive coach not named Bellicheck. And again, he was accurate. Really good. Week 3 looked like it was going to be a carbon copy of week 2 with the Bills jumping out to a 2 score lead and Allen throwing for nearly 200 yards in the 1st half. Then the 3rd quarter happened with some accuracy and decision making problems for Allen and next thing ya know the Bengals came back. I will argue over and over that's why you NEVER change your offensive gameplan unless you're forced to, and the ONLY time that happens is if you're multiple scores behind in the game. Yet, Allen still led a 4th Quarter Game Winning Drive. Not quite as accurate in this game as the previous 2, but still accurate enough. Solid. Sunday against the Pats was just utterly atrocious. Allen was awful. It was his worst game in the NFL for sure. Not Peterman awful, but awful nonetheless. Yet he still had his moments. The deep shot to Knox who made a fantastic catch on the drive to end the half where we missed the FG. The 1st drive of the 2nd half. Allen still had his good moments in the game, too. And when he was knocked out of the game, he had the team in Pats territory down just 1 score and FINALLY looked like he was at least capable of moving the offense down the field. Pump the brakes already on the idiotic calls that he sucks. If he sits out this Sunday because of his concussion, I'm fine with it because he has the bye to recover and I do like Barkley as a backup. But make absolutely no mistake about this, even if Barkley starts and lights up the Titans like he did the Jets last year, Allen will still be the starter when he's healthy, just like last year. And rightfully so.

So now this has derailed into a conversation about Mahomes? What the hell. Let's be objective about this folks. Here's Allen's season in a nutshell: JETS Game (this was in the Meadowlands WITH Darnold... lest we forget there was a good deal of preseason hype for the Jets) -Solid and productive and demonstrated a good grasp of the offense, BUT... -Terrible bounces of the football. AT LEAST half of the turnovers in that game just weren't on Josh, and you could make an argument that he wasn't primarily culpable in any of them. BUT... -Brought the team back down 13 in the 4th Quarter -Pretty accurate for the whole game GIANTS Game -Don't complain about this game. Josh was really good. -210 yards passing in the 1st half with 1 passing TD and 1 rushing TD -Foot completely off the gas in the 2nd half... something that I think goes to both Daboll and player execution across the offense. -Pretty accurate for the whole game BENGALS Game -Seemed the same trend as the Giants game. -Great 1st half with 190 passing yards and a TD along. -Terrible INT in the 2nd half. -Recovered though for the 4th Quarter Game Winning Drive -Pretty accurate for the whole game. PATRIOTS Game -We all saw that 1st half. Utterly attrocious. Horrible accuracy. Bad decisions. -Final drive of the 1st half we still got in makeable FG range -1st drive of the 2nd half the no-huddle was really working to help Allen and the offense get in rhythm... don't know why they stopped the no-huddle -Another horrible INT -Seemed to start figuring things out getting the team moving. -Concussed. Does anyone disagree with that assessment of those games? Now, which one of those is not like the other? So why the F&^%& are we FREAKING out over 1 bad game against the greatest coach in NFL history who has cut his teeth on eating young QBs alive? R-E-L-A-X

Weird failure in logic here using Robert Foster as your 1st example. Foster wasn't good last preseason. He earned the adulation you reference above because of meaningful regular season games. Who knows what's going on this year, but what he did in terms of play on the field was during the regular season. Great, so you acknowledge Zay can't catch, run routes, get open or run at all. So basically, there is absolutely no harm whatsoever in cutting him and seeing if Duke is better. Thanks for that

I think Cover_1 highlighted some excellent run blocking on his part during the preseason. That seems to be about the only reason we're keeping Zay right now. If Duke can run block nearly as well as Zay, he can be an every down receiver.

It would be pretty fantastic if someone could find info on this.

The longer he plays, the more he demonstrates he can't catch, the less we get in trade value. Wish we got rid of him before the season.

Zay sucks. He never... NEVER EVER comes down with a difficult but catchable pass. He failed to do it twice AGAIN yesterday!!! Once in the End Zone. Once on the low but catchable pass to him. He was advertised as a sure-handed WR out of college. He clearly isn't. He's had 2+ seasons. Time to move on.

No one loves Yeldon. But he was critical to our 3rd Quarter success yesterday and it was notable because it was a halftime adjustment Daboll clearly made. Sheesh. I said myself in the OP I don't like Yeldon. Apparently it's a requirement to ONLY bash or praise a player... no in between, huh?