BullBuchanan
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Is $90 a bargain for that?
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Rome Odunze goes 5 picks later and loses $13M on his deal. Crazy.
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But was Stefon Diggs there?
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56 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Proofing and fermentation get used interchangeably but proofing is specifically that fermentation taking place after the dough has reached its final form. I don't consider a ball of dough to be the final form whether its thin crust or pan. I would refer to that step as cold fermentation (or room temp fermentation) but I know that others call that step proofing.
Pan pizza includes a distinct proofing phase after shaping and stretching the dough in the pan but before baking which is what I believe 716 was referring to. This step is only a few hours at room temp. You don't stretch a thin crust pie out to 16" and then let it rise again for a few hours was my point.
Any pizza place operating in New York or Buffalo worth visiting is fermenting or proofing dough for at least a good 8 hours and likely closer to 24 or 48. I believe the legendary DiFara makes a same day dough while places like L'Industrie are rumored to ferment 72 hours.
Yea, i think it's just a different terminology thing. I usually refer to proofing once it's been shaped. I guess in the case of a cold ferment this could take place during or after the the fridge ferment. I've been letting my dough sit at room temp 4-6 hours once balled and in that time it'll rise a decent bit - I consider that proofing, but I guess some may not if it isn't stretched. Once it's stretched though, it just sits long enough to wait for its turn in the oven.
48 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:I am an amateur but I have spent countless hours soaking up as much as I can on this website. Its a lot like here but without all the weirdos and #######s. In other words, its nothing like TBD and not nearly as fun BUT it is useful.
https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php
There is even a great thread where a dude who owns a highly regarded pizza shop in Buffalo, Jay's Artisan Pizza, is helping people re-engineer a classic Buffalo style pie.
https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=30764.0
That place is a godsend.
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4 minutes ago, Augie said:
Okay, you guys know your pizza…..and I have a question. I always thought of a “hand tossed” pizza as normal. We did a cooking class in Rome once and the chef said they toss pies down in Naples and elsewhere, but we rolled our dough. Does rolling happen often? I just always had visions of dough twirling in the air.
BTW - Best pizza of my life!
EDIT: We used an immersion blender making the sauce and my wife had one waiting for us when we got home. It’s been a year, and it’s still in the box. We have such good intentions, but…….🤷♂️
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Tossing it high in the air is mostly for show. You can achieve the same effect rotating it quickly on the tops of your hands or a variety of other methods. Not very mainly styles roll it out flat from what I've seen.
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55 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Theres no reason to proof a thin crust pizza. It would cease to be thin and no clue how you would get it on and off a peel when its time to cook. Whether its NY thin, New Haven, or Neapolitan, you ferment until optimal, you stretch, then you cook immediately for best results..
You proof all those kinds of dough too, just that most people do it in the fridge for a couple days. When you take it out of the fridge you then let it come up to room temp for 4-6 hours and it rises again in that stage.
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6 hours ago, BarleyNY said:
agree on WNY pizza. disagree on buffalo sauce. I love buffalo sauce, tho my favorite wing sauce is a gochujang sauce that I make.
Bar Bill in Clarence kinda sucks. My friends and I have been many times, but stopped going after worse and worse experiences. Bar Bill in East Auora is still fantastic though. As is M&H across the street from it (EA location).
I glossed over that part. The one in East Aurora has definitely been a top 3-4 place for me every time I've gone. @hondo in seattle definitely give the East Aurora location a go if you can.
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Desi's Pizzeria is criminally underrated, and they have some of the best subs and calzones in the country.
3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:I haven't visited any cities that I find especially good at wings, just particular restaurants here and there.
For example, I visited my daughter in Bellingham, WA once when she was going to school there. We had wings for an appetizer at a Thai restaurant that were so good we had to order another serving. The following day, we had wings at a Brazilian place that specialized in wings/chicken. The wings themselves were unexceptional except that they came with a variety of tasty & interesting dipping sauces.A week later, we were in Buffalo (Clarence) at Bar Bill. My son, wife, and I all agreed the wings at those two restaurants in Bellingham were better than any of the three flavors we got at Bar Bill. As a Buffalo native, it was disappointing.
I want Buffalo to be the superlative in all things wings. But I went to Duff's once on a visit back home and ordered the Death Wings. They were hot but I ate them. On the other hand, I once ordered the 7-Alarm wings at the Wing Dome in Seattle. I barely finished one and swore - with tears in my eyes - that I'd never consume anything with hot sauce ever again.
Whenever I'm back in Buffalo, there are a few things I try to hit: pizza, wings, beef-on-weck, and Parkside Candy (I love the store itself more than the offerings but I do love chocolate). The pizza is probably my biggest pleasure of the four.
Maybe you went on a bad day, which does happen there. From my experience living in seattle, nothing came remotely close to wings from Buffalo, but then again, I haven't been to those places in Bellingham. Nine-eleven tavern is the gold standard for me. If I'm going to a pizza shop for wings, I actually love La Nova, as touristy as that may seem.
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On 5/20/2024 at 12:39 PM, BullBuchanan said:
Your career win percentage stats are completely irrelevant, because the overwhelming majority of McD's stats are with Josh Allen at the Helm. He has one full season and another 5 games that he played without Josh Allen. He was 10-11 over that span with one playoff appearance that was a loss. Obviously it's not a horrible percentage, but it's highly volatile with numbers that small. A couple games in either direction have massive percentage point swings.
What makes McDermott like Jauron is his general philosophy that high level execution is the most important factor in winning football games, while at the same time being unable to get his team to execute at a high level with consistency. The difference is that talent, namely Allen, has won this team a ton of football games even when they aren't executing. Jauron didn't have that luxury. I think when you look at our various defensive collapses over McDermott's tenure, where Allen is not able to bail him out, or you look at our penalties against, you can see evidence of our team not doing the one thing that's supposed to be McDermott's forte. Couple that with his poor time management and poor challenge judgement (admittedly less important) and I just don't see a coach who executes at a high level when that's supossed to be his thing.
Of course, many coaches like Belichick, Shanahan, Reid, have all had teams with very high levels of execution over the years, especially Belichick, but each of those coaches also bring a tremendous knowledge of the game paired with a strategic vision and tactical plan that put their team in the best position to win possible.21 hours ago, Jauronimo said:LOL at hail mary defense. Do you have any idea how many hail mary's almost connect but don't every week? There's a reason why its the lowest % play in football. Its always so close yet so far. And it was pretty well defended in Arizona. How many more guys do you want around the ball? Perhaps McD should have coached Hyde or Tre to be taller.
I am really struggling to see how any of this relates to your McD = Jauron argument. Looks like you have abandoned that (if so, smart) but lets not pretend that this discussion started over my impassioned defense of McD.
Jauron was the most conservative coach the franchise has seen and played every game not to lose. McD leads the league in going for it on fourth down. Jauron regularly punted the ball away from inside the 50. He was the least inspiring person to ever walk into OBD. If you still think McD=Jauron then we can add it your growing list of spicy takes.
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2 hours ago, bearstobills said:
And McD took a Tyrod Taylor led team with mediocre weapons to the playoffs in his first year. I'd say that's getting the best out of your players. Btw, I'm not a McD believer, but I definitely wanted to counter your argument.
I brought this up in my postalready. McDermott really had very little hand in us reaching the playoffs in 2017. In the two years before he got here, Taylor went 7-6 and 7-8. In 2017 Taylor went 8-6. We finished 9-7 which wasn't any better than Marrone did with Kyle Orton. Cincinnati deserves more credit for getting us into the playoffs. If you want to celebrate the second 9-7 season in 4 years as evidence that McDermott is great, go ahead, but I won't.
2 hours ago, FireChans said:To respond to your post, I personally think the only way we win a SB with McD/Beane is to just not face KC in the postseason.
Probably a crappy way to look at it, but it reminds me of the Cavs/Raptors in the NBA a few years back. Lebron just destroyed them. Every year. They could have a great regular season, be the #1 seed and they had lost the mental battle before the first whistle blew.
I think McD and the Bills in general (outside of Allen) are there.
I'm not ready to put the Bengals in that rarefied air. But I get why you are.
This is my plan for us to win a Super Bowl. Ideally Burrow is out of the picture too in whatever way possible. Also not sure we'd match up to SF, but at least that isn't proven.
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2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
I guess its a good thing that football games are not measured by things that almost happened. Keep digging.
Except when the things that almost happened later do in fact happen. Just because you don't get burned every single time, doesn't mean you aren't screwing up. We had the Hail Murray, and then allowed the exact same situation the very next week against San Diego that just happened to not burn them. They collapsed against Tampa Bay last year and were a pass interference call away from being knocked out of playoff contention. We get annual reminders ever year when we play KC or Cincinnati exactly who Sean McDermott is, and some people insist on ignoring all of his miscues because of regular season win totals and just throw on a surprised face when we melt in the game's biggest moments.
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On 5/17/2024 at 1:28 PM, transplantbillsfan said:
I don't think Von wins DPOY, but I actually think the "Von is over-the-hill" narrative is head-scratching.
Throw out his play from last season. History says that players take more than a full calendar year to fully recover from an ACL tear and often closer to 2 full calendar years to round back into form. We saw that happen with Tre White and it happens time and time again with players in the NFL.
So the only argument regarding Von is his age. @GunnerBill said this offseason that Von is washed and he thinks there's something like a 5% chance Von has any impact on the team this year. That's really the way almost everyone feels. He's a complete afterthought.
Do you guys not remember how Von was playing up until that Thanksgiving game in 2022???? It's not like he showed any signs of age whatsoever. The guy had 8 sacks in 11 games and was still a game-wrecker. Didn't look like a 33 year old pass rusher in any way.
We know he works. We know he wants to win. And we know he believes in himself.
I think Von is going to have a very productive season this year. He may not get double digit sacks, but as a DPR I could absolutely see him getting 6-10 sacks.
It's only head scratching if you absolutely must find the rosiest possible result in the worst of situations. There are 20 year olds who are never the same after an ACL tear and he was already on the last leg of his career. I think there's a very realistic chance he never even plays again. If he comes into camp looking like he did last season, he should just hang it up, because he wasn't a practice-squad level talent last year. It would be an historic comeback that people would talk about for years if he put up 10 sacks this year, considering he wasn't putting up that many more in his long lost prime.
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2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
And McDermott dragged Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs. He has had one losing season in his career and it was Allen's rookie year.
Belichick got fired after 2 more years with Mac Jones.
Ask @PBF81 about how much credit Belichick should get for going 11-5 with Cassel when Sparano won the division that year playing the same schedule.
Lazy initial argument, bad counter.
So I guess Shanahan is the only objectively good coach in the modern NFL and everyone else just got lucky with a franchise QB.
Hardly.
Tyrod Taylor was a better QB than Cassel and when Taylor went to the playoffs, he won just won more game than he did in either of the previous two seasons. So, with that in mind, he had a typicaly Tyrod Taylor season. McD didn't elevate him at all. Interestingly, the game that got us in the playoffs that year - a win against the lowly Miami Dolphins, was another near-colossal collapse by a McDermott team where after holding them scoreless for 42 minutes, we needed a last minute interception to stop the march of David Fales and Kenny Stills from continuing our playoff drought.
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17 minutes ago, Logic said:
I totally agree.
But what an objectively hilarious sentence to post in a discussion in which you're trying to prove that Sean McDermott is a bad coach. Sean McDermott, who boasts a great career winning percentage, has made the playoffs six out of seven seasons, and won four straight division titles, and whose ONLY bugaboo so far is lack of a Super Bowl victory.
By your own standard, which you just summed up so eloquently, you must agree that Sean McDermott is a high caliber coach. Yes?I'm not trying to prove he's a bad coach though. I don't think Dick Jauron was a "bad" coach. I think they're both extremely mid, with McDermott being a little better.
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Just now, Logic said:
The burden of proof is on the accuser.
Thus far, I've at least provided career win percentage statistics. You've provided nothing of substance to back up your claim.
I'd love to hear what, specifically, makes Sean McDermott just like Jauron.
Please enlighten us.Your career win percentage stats are completely irrelevant, because the overwhelming majority of McD's stats are with Josh Allen at the Helm. He has one full season and another 5 games that he played without Josh Allen. He was 10-11 over that span with one playoff appearance that was a loss. Obviously it's not a horrible percentage, but it's highly volatile with numbers that small. A couple games in either direction have massive percentage point swings.
What makes McDermott like Jauron is his general philosophy that high level execution is the most important factor in winning football games, while at the same time being unable to get his team to execute at a high level with consistency. The difference is that talent, namely Allen, has won this team a ton of football games even when they aren't executing. Jauron didn't have that luxury. I think when you look at our various defensive collapses over McDermott's tenure, where Allen is not able to bail him out, or you look at our penalties against, you can see evidence of our team not doing the one thing that's supposed to be McDermott's forte. Couple that with his poor time management and poor challenge judgement (admittedly less important) and I just don't see a coach who executes at a high level when that's supossed to be his thing.
Of course, many coaches like Belichick, Shanahan, Reid, have all had teams with very high levels of execution over the years, especially Belichick, but each of those coaches also bring a tremendous knowledge of the game paired with a strategic vision and tactical plan that put their team in the best position to win possible.-
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1 minute ago, Logic said:
Shanahan is really the only one you have any argument with.
How many rings as Bill "Greatest of all time" Belichick won as a head coach without Brady? The exact same amount as Sean McDermott, that's how many.
Having sustained success without a high quality quarterback is more the exception than the rule.
And on the flip side, there are instances of great QBs who lose year after year and DON'T regularly make the playoffs. Why? Because their coaches stink. How many times has Justin Herbert made the playoffs in his career?
If Super Bowl victories are your only metric for caliber of coaching, that's your problem.
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43 minutes ago, Logic said:
Bad/lazy take.
Jauron was 60-82 as a head coach.
McDermott is 73-41 as a head coach.
Jauron had a .42 win percentage as a head coach.
McDermott has a .64 win percentage as a head coach, which is best all time for the Buffalo Bills, and just below Andy Reid and Bill Belichick's career win percentages.
Dick Jauron had one playoff season in 10 seasons as head coach. He was 0-1 in the playoffs.
Sean McDermott has had six playoff seasons out of seven seasons as head coach. He is 5-6 in the playoffs.
I'm no McDermott apologist, and I'm not sure he's the man for the job long term, but to compare him to Jauron is simply unreasonable and unrealistic.What exactly do you think you proved with all this? You realize that when you take away Josh Allen, these stats don't line up like this, right?
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27 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Every head coach without a franchise QB is Dick Jauron based on record. Bill Belichick is now Jauron. Great point.
Bill Belichick went 11-5 with matt Cassel, He dragged Mac Jones tot he playoffs kicking and screaming.
Kyle Shanahan has people thinking Jimmy Garoppolo might be the next elite QB in the NFL for a minute and now he's doing the same with Brock Purdy. We all know how Jimmy turned out.
Great coaches get the best out of their players, but you can't get gold from *****.
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I don't really expect him to improve at all. How many coaches have significant improvement after 7 years on the job with no prior signs of growth? I haven't seen anything the last couple of years that tells me he's meaningfully improved year over year. Unless you have a coach that's at the forefront of innovation, I think it's hard to just consistently get better.
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1 hour ago, Breakout Squad said:
Most of my friends hate McD. I gently remind them of 17 years of futility that has been replaced by expectations of winning every year 🤷
Take away Josh Allen and McDermott is just Dick Jauron: The Next Generation.
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That whole family sucks, elite play notwithstanding.
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Makes me glad to roam the high seas
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23 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
*sigh*
We do this every year. This time we seem to have gotten a jump on it. Usually this thread gets made around the 53 cutdown date when there's some plucky UDFA or Futures underdog that the fanbase has fallen in love with and wants to find a way to squeeze them on the roster.
He's an important Special Teamer, serves as an extra blocker on the field, while also providing the occasional catch out of the Backfield, and has positional versatility as an extra TE. Allowing us to keep only 3 on the 53, when we kept 4 on the 53 before he was here.
He provides all of this for a meager salary. He's loved by the team and loved by the coaches. He's even more important this year after walking away from a number of core Special Teamers. His spot on the 53 is safe.
You've clearly never played Madden.
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7 hours ago, Doc said:
What is it if you remove last year?As for next Bernard, it would have to be an inexperienced player taking over for a good player who recently left, +/- a guy who was considered a bad pick/reach. I guess that would have to be Coleman.
21st at 85.553. Just below Matt Bryant and above Jason Myers. Pretty good company.
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Cards sign Marvin Harrison Jr 4-yrs 35.3M with 22.5 guaranteed
in The Stadium Wall
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looks to be $10M/4