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5 hours ago, mannc said:
Harrison was the Card’s unquestioned WR1, the 4th overall pick in the draft, and the alleged best WR prospect of the past decade…amazing that his numbers were roughly equal to the Bills’ 5th round slot receiver…
Was that 5th round receiver also not the unquestioned #1 receiver of a team helmed by the MVP who went to the AFC championship and awarded a lucrative new deal? College is college, and the pros are the pros. There's no objective data to suggest MHJ didn't have an exceptional rookie year. You're complaining because it wasn't as exceptional as somebody else. Welcome to NFL football.
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17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
He didn’t have any issues. He had 62 catches/885 yards/ 8 TDs as a rookie
Imagine hating on that line when you're a Bills fan
2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:Are you serious??? It was all over the news about the lack of utilization of Marvin Harrison Jr. last season and how he was frustrated.
1 hour ago, mannc said:Correct. He’s not very quick or explosive…massively overrated—and overdrafted—because of his college helmet and his father…
So far…
See above.
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8 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:
I think we need Palmer to do better than what Cooper did- possible since Cooper underperformed expectations IMO.
The Hollins upgrade needs to come from K Coleman. That is a large, but doable, jump.
Didn't Coleman already outperform Hollins last year?
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1 hour ago, buffblue said:
He was the definition of overhyped. All I heard for a year is that the guy was going to step right in and dominate from day one because he was a "generational" talent as you put it. Not that his dad's name had anything to do with it. Then I watch him struggle to consistently make an impact while other rookies produced immediately. As it stands he will be lucky to be the 3rd best WR in his class.
And if you want to make the argument that Kyler is holding him back, how come BTJ and Nabers were far more impactful with equally if not worse QB situations (especially in the Giants case)?
Harrison may well turn out to be an outstanding receiver, but last year's WR class could easily be like 2014 where ultimately many players who turned out to be better were drafted after the consensus top guy.
All of this makes me think you may have never watched a snap of the kid playing ball in your life.
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2 hours ago, JohnNord said:
What was his issue last season? I didn’t get the impression is was strength relatedWhat "issue" are you referring to? Dude had a monster season for a rookie.
11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:I love how if someone who is a big time prospect coming out of College doesn't light the world on fire as a Rookie, they were "overhyped".
Even if he busts out, that doesn't change the kind of generational talent prospect he was coming out of College.
If you put his stats on the Bills he would have been WR #1. Not sure how that is a disappointment.
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6 minutes ago, eball said:
You can disagree, but the take isn't horrible and had 22 of 32 votes. When I look back at NFL Films highlights and history, the story isn't replete with ball carriers being pushed and pulled to victory.
It depends how far back you look because it's been a viable tactic for the last 34 years, a period which many would argue includes the best eras of the sport. It was also legal in the beginning of the game, only becoming a foul during the era of the forward pass.
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2 hours ago, eball said:
A player should not receive assistance (pulling or pushing) from a teammate to gain yardage -- PERIOD. It's a stupid play and should have never been allowed.
Another outright horrible take.
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3 hours ago, eball said:
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TravisJason Kelce was there lobbying for the play. Ridiculous.It's not a football play and hopefully it's out next year.
It might be THE definitive football play. A giant scrum is as old-school as football gets. I love it.
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The Legend of Kiko lives on forever in this house. It's still my wifi password 😅
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4 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:
IMO, they signed 6 defensive players in free agency who won’t make a dime’s worth of difference to the defense. That was my opinion before we knew of the suspensions.
I view each of the defensive signings as backup level players who were signed as insurance in case they didn’t get what they wanted in the draft. I feel like they did a great job in the draft which further makes the free agent class even less important to me.
I am glad they signed tre white. He is a great fit in the locker room and a great player to have with a young group of cornerbacks on the roster.
I just do not see any of the others doing anything worthwhile and in particular helping the defense where it needed help other than just providing a baseline of depth. I think three of the players they signed not really even have a position clearly defined.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see two or three of the free agents on defense they signed cut when they make the roster for week 1 or after the bye and the suspensions are up.
Don't be surprised to see Hoecht be the most impactful player on our defense. If we take a meaningful step this year, my money is that it's because of him.
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14 hours ago, Pete said:
I bet Espeneza gets traded too.
The guy has been on the team for 6 YEARS. C'mon man.
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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
He is better than Cousins and better than Purdy.
We disagree on that, but it's not that important to belabor it, because I think we do agree they're all the same class of player that's going to give you the same end result come January. Or do we not?
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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
But there are not 32 guys who you do. At any one time there might be 4 or 5. What do you do if you don't have one? You put a team around a darn good QB like Goff and hope you can find a way. And about once every 10 years or so that works out.
I don't think this takes away from my point that he's in the same camp as a guy like Cousins or Purdy that are ultimately the weak link on their team. Comparing their stats during the regular season is great as long as anybody cares about that. The playoffs is a different animal entirely and each of these guys seems to struggle under the added pressure.
As for what I do if I have a player like this, I guess it depends on what your goals are. Are you really trying to win a Super Bowl at all costs, or are you more interested in having a team that people believe is capable of winning a Super Bowl? As an owner, the latter might be better than the former. If that's the case, you keep Goff and you tow the company line about "getting better"/"finishing the job", etc and you rake in the profits from stacking up division championships (something the Bills are currently doing).
If you care about winning the Super Bowl, you do what the Rams did when they traded for Stafford. At worst, you should be trying to find a guy behind him that can push for the job. Do the Lions believe a 27 year old Hendon Hooker is that, or is he just a cheap backup?17 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:Goff, Darnold, Herbert all played pretty lousy in the playoffs last year. Pretty sure all seem to struggle on the road and outdoors. The lions just played... terrible. I know Goffs largely to blame but that defense was terrible (albeit banged up).
For sure, but 3 picks doesn't help. Even going back the previous year against SF, Goff lead the offense to a 24-7 start, but then he was only able to generate 7 more points (in garbage time) across the second half of the game in an loss. He had two drives of 4th and 3 and 4th and 2 where he threw incomplete passes. You just can't do that.
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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Goff has been consistently underrated by a lot of NFL fans. And the reason why I am convinced is his rookie year. Where he did look horrible. You only get one chance to make a first impression and his was awful. It doesn't matter that he has then been very good and season by season consistent since then.... people will always find a way to say that is someone else's doing. Remember the "Sean McVay is reading defenses for him" nonsense.
He is less Kirk Cousins and more Matt Ryan 2.0. A really good QB who isn't the most mobile and lacks a bit of clutch gene.
What he shares with both of those guys is that he's a chronic choker who you could put on the most elite team in the league and he'd still find a way to lose. He regresses in the playoffs compared to his regular season in just about every category. That's not a guy I want to try to win a SB with.
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On 5/16/2025 at 8:05 PM, DJB said:
And for reference here is Ladd who many of us vouched for
Coleman needs to step up or Beane massively screwed this one up
Beane didn't "screw up" anything with this pick as McConkey was never on the board. They've been chasing a big body physical player in Buffalo for 20 years and Beane has wanted one his whole tenure too. The goal was to get a guy for Josh who's open even when he's not open. It's the same reason we let KC trade for Worthy. That type of player didn't exist to our FO. It was likely Thomas, Coleman, and then LegetteOn 5/16/2025 at 9:18 PM, GASabresIUFan said:By the way, Beane knows he blew the Coleman pick. (40 4.61)
Since he made that pick, all the skill players on both sides of the ball have speed.
At WR were have added Palmer (4.52 @ 6'1 210), Moore (4.35), and Prather (4.46),
AT DB & S: Bishop (4.45), Forest (4.41), Hancock (4.42), Hairston (4.28), Strong (4.50)
That's a wild way to get at the wrong conclusion. He got the player he wanted for the role he wanted. He didn't want a speedster for that role, but he did want them for other roles.
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On 5/17/2025 at 1:31 PM, Mister Defense said:
But I'm really surprised to see you put Goff in that group! He is in a completely different category, has led his team to a Super Bowl
Goff "led" his team to the Super Bowl the same way Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson led their teams to the Super Bowl. He's a little better than those guys, but he's absolutely the weak link on that team. There's at least 10 QBs that would be a marked upgrade for the Lions. He single-handedly lost the game for the Lions against the Commanders in the playoffs, and he was one of the worst players on the field during their SB loss to the Patriots. The Lions had an elite team the last couple years and they've disappointed.
He's a middle of the road game manager who will never be good enough to win with, but he'll bait teams into keeping him because he's so much better than the unknown. He's a less talented Kirk Cousins. Put Purdy in the same camp as those two. -
seems like a dumb idea. I'd be more in favor of just going back to 6 teams with 2 byes, but of course that's not happening. Pretty soon we'll have 10 teams in the playoffs.
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When you have Goff, Lawrence, Tua, and Love all making the same money as Allen and Burrow, it starts to look like union rate for a starting QB. Prescott is just lol.
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last time I wen to a game I think my seat was $60. No chance I'd ever pay more than $80 to a see a game that wasn't the Super Bowl, and even then I'd probably max out at $200.
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1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Great, I'm sure Cook's asking price just went up.
Why? Henry is leagues above him in talent and accolades and only got Cook's ask.
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19 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:
Do you think they'll pick another QB when they pick #1 overall in the 2026 draft?
No, because they won't be near the #1 pick, especially if Flacco starts. That will be the Saints honor, and possibly the Giants, Jets, Titans or Vikings.
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58 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:
Being slow is a pretty serious flaw for a safety. Just sayin
It's really not that big of a deal. There's a reason they move corners who have gotten too slow to safety. It's an area you can hide if you have enough game knowledge. It's especially if you have great ball skills and play a lot of zone. If Hamlin can stick around long enough to acquire the game knowledge due to playing hard and his ST contributions. I wouldn't be shocked to see a guy like him play into his mid thirties as a contributor.
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7 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:
His biggest flaw is that he doesn’t know what he’s doing out there. He’s out of position leaving corners on islands. He was by far the weakest link on our defense last year and it wasn’t close
I'm going to need to see receipts, because I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case. I've seen FAR more mental errors from Rapp, and especially Bishop than Hamlin.
17 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:Is he kind of an expensive #3 or #4 S though (2M guaranteed, ~1.3M cap hit)? Maybe his value as a trusted replacement-level depth player (27 starts and >50% STs) on the backend justifies the cost, but he hasn't made many impact plays on those 2,135 snaps (D and STs). Definition of Just A Guy at this point imho. Not the kind of guy who can keep up against playoff competition.
No. that's the definition of cheap in today's NFL. He's the 64th highest paid safety.
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19 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:
Andy Isabella of safeties is better than the Damar Hamlin of safeties. He literally should be making hallmark movies instead of being on a football field, he’s that bad at safety
Damar Hamlin is absolutely an NFL caliber safety. You need your eyes checked if you think he's unrosterable. Should he be starting for the Bills? no, probably not, but he's absolutely good enough to be the #3 safety on most teams in the league and a starter on weaker secondaries. His biggest flaw is that he's slow.
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Marvin Harrison Jr "BULKS UP"
in The Stadium Wall
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And?
Easiest? It's the exact opposite. the college and NFL game is vastly different for WRs as they're asked to run more complete route trees, play against all-american level CBs every single snap, and learn to get two feet down.
You must be thinking of RB.