Real McClappy

Guess you missed the NFC championship game were he destroyed Minny with a 78% completion percentage? in 4 playoff games has a 1200yds with a 72% completion rate? He is so limited. He contemplated retirement which is true, that is the Jeff Fisher effect though. Goff thought about it as well with only one season. A incompetent Rams team at the time is why he is a current BU. Next year when he leaves to start elsewhere and joins a half competent team you will see the "Someone should be fired over Foles" threads on TBD forums. Again, please sign me up for limited

This is a great idea actually. The only reason I have it is to watch the Bills.

You said it twice so I'll bite. How is a limited QB able to drop laser dimes all night and put up 44pts to become SB MVP? Please sign me up for this kinda limited QB. Defenses in today's NFL mean pretty much jack squat. You need a arsenal on Offense to score at will to be competitive today. A strong pass rush is def worth while though to force erratic throws or take sacks. Our FO is playing checkers trying to build up our D. It better change next FA and draft or this tenure could be over during our at the end of 2019

He just missed how someone has to be fired

Truth here. Been a fan since 84 and got to see this team build up in the late 80's and had the 90's which were amazing. If your a younger guy and started really following the team since say beginning of Y2K I have no idea how you do it? How, seriously?

No issues around Saratoga, NY. You guys on the standard or high def channel? I only have basic now as paying another 100 bucks for games in HD is just a slap in the face. Either way after this year the dish comes down. I can easily stream online for free and pay enough for WIFI alone these days.

This is nothing compared to tomorrow night and Tuesday.

Jelly Beane work?

Right, you convinced me. What Defense might that be in the AFC come playoff time?

No, your post I replied to said KC's drawback is their Defense and it's not true for a club that is about to be 7-1 at the midway point of the season. This isn't 1985, you either score or lose. People are all caught up in D like it means Squat. It's really easy to go to NFL.com and look at PF and PA to see the glaring truth but whatever.

And still down by 2 scores. What is your point in all honesty? They are 6-1 in a Offensive based NFL era.

I'm watching the game and see 30-14. D is a huge problem. SMH

7-1 says otherwise in about 45mins.

Should have stopped at bolded.

I don't know what to believe honestly. Based off what Boat is saying here mixes everything up as I agree with him.

For what it's worth https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2707036-doug-whaley-passing-on-patrick-mahomes-rumored-to-be-final-straw-before-firing

Agree Biscuit, It is tough to assume that Allen would translate if all was reversed, it really is more of an opinion. We gotta look at the talent levels though between the teams I guess. Texas tech - KC for Mahomes Clemson - Texans for Watson Wyoming - Bills for Allen Allen definitely gets the huge shank here for talent across the board (college and pros) and has 1 year less pro experience. IDK, I feel Allen would excel under Reid if faced with the exact up bringing as Mahomes under Alex Smith with the insane arsenal at his finger tips. Watching Mahomes is tough but WR's, RB's and TE's are wide open on half of Mahomes passes with mostly clean pockets. I think Allen can play at that level from what I've seen from him thus far but is pure speculation.

I agree, we are having a logical thread/replies on a topic where opinions will vary greatly that I assume Mods encourage instead of name calling crap. We are all here as we are fans and love this team. The last many regimes have been tough to swallow as a Bills fan and I totally understand and actually respect then lack of patience. For me, this FO deserves 2019 FA and draft. I'm glad they understand the importance of QB trading up and taking Allen last draft. I'm willing to give the rest of this year and next to fairly evaluate. Heck, Allen is the 4th QB ever taken by this franchise in the 1st round over the past 50 years. That alone shows how past regimes have failed us and why the Bills have been stuck in the mud without a franchise guy, excluding JK.

If McD knew that a GM transition was coming post draft can you blame him for not selecting a QB until the new GM and scouting was in place? Going off Whaley's scouting team on the most important position in all of sports would have been reckless IMO if he knew Doug was gone post draft. Give Allen more time. If he straight up busts then these arguments are valid I suppose. I think we all agree that if Allen had the exact same scenario in KC as Mahomes he would be playing great. We need more time to see if this FO can build up the offense for Allen in 2019.

Weird draft and year without his GM. I have thought about this for a long time as well. If Beane was the GM during that draft would we have gone QB with Mahomes or Watson?

Same, had Trub, Watson and Mahomes in that order. Mahomes def has some mechanical issues but in fairness so does Allen, both their scouting reports and grades are very similar. I'm fairly confident that if Josh Allen was in KC with all those weapons, coaching staff with a year to sit behind a decent QB in Alex Smith we would be seeing Allen tear it up like Mahomes is now. I'm pumped that Tre looks like a stud pro-bowl CB for years to come. Thank goodness that worked out or this topic would look much worse. I'm 100% ok with Allen and Tre right now. I'm really excited to see Allen develop into a stud.

My statement is as of today the 2017 QB draft class is better than the 2018 class which is true. I'm agreeing with you that 2018 QB's deserve more time to fairly evaluate between the 2 classes but that doesn't change my current assessment above. I don't see the 2017 class falling off the cliff. I personally wanted the Bills to draft Watson or Mahomes that year. The only reality is we have Josh Allen whom I hope turns into the best QB the draft has seen in 10 years. Time will tell all, If Allen flops this topic will come up non-stop from fans for years.

Agreed, will need a couple more years to evaluate. However, there is no denying the 2017 class is/was much stronger than what was said non-stop that is was a poor QB class.

Wanted Watson