oldmanfan

You have repeated there is validity in people’s feelings that there are problems with our electoral system, when there is no evidence to support that. Again, the Trump insisted on a special investigation into the 2016 election; it ended with nothing to support such a claim. The DOJ found nothing to support fraud in 2020 that could have caused a problem. Georgia relooked at votes 3 times and found nothing. Other states such as Arizona found no problems when they reviewed results. There simply is nothing there. When accusations are made there have to be some factual basis for them. And yes the primary system may- may - be different but that to me pales in comparison to the ultimate office holder. Plus you have to think of this logically. If there was a problem, say, with the machines why would they only affect the presidential election? And only in certain states? Again, the only reason- the only reason- that we are talking about this is because Trump got it into the heads of his supporters weeks before the election that if he lost it was rigged. One last thing. You say something about me believing Russian affected the 2016 election. I have not opined on that at all.

Ok, first if all do you really think quoting a Russian media site on the voting machines buttresses your argument? Seriously? The audits I am aware of all confirmed there were no abnormalities with the Dominion voting machines. And now that they’re suing those who slandered them discovery will show what occurred. Assuming the idiots claiming that are also too stupid to settle out of court. Now, as far as how the parties choose their nominees, the parties have their mechanisms and I don’t really care about that as I don’t have a constitutional right to vote in primaries. It used to be the bosses picked them in a smoke filled room. Now both parties lie, cheat and steal. Remember how Bush lied about McCain having an illegitimate child who was actually his adopted daughter? How about Trump lying about Cruz’s father? And yes Sanders probably got screwed. And Clyborne got Biden going in SC and we don’t know what pressure was put on nominees after that. But that is a means to an end where we all get to participate, and there simply is no evidence to support widespread election fraud. None. Remember the special investigation Trump demanded into the 2016 election to root out supposed fraud? You may not because the investigation was quietly terminated because it yielded nothing. In 2020 the DOJ said there was no evidence of widespread fraud. States that audited and reaffirmed their votes concluded there was no fraud. When Giuliani tried to get the Pennsylvania courts to intervene he told them specifically they were not claiming fraud. You claim states changed their laws; they did so to ensure that voters during the epidemic were not going to be deprived of their right to vote, and despite 60 some court cases no court said any legislature did anything illegal. And what they did helped make sure the Constitutional right to vote was protected for all. What you should be pissed about is the efforts to disenfranchise voters, like people in line to vote getting a bottle of water from a volunteer. If you care so much about supposed problems with primaries and voting as such, I hope you’ll join me in Georgia next election if this idiotic law is held up, and hand out water. You say a huge population has lost confidence in elections. Do you know why? Because they wanted Trump and that dishonest carnival barker started telling them weeks before the election that if he lost it was because it was rigged. It wasn’t rigged. He lost and his ego refused to accept it. Republicans now unworthy of the label Republicans participated in this charade because they were afraid of losing around 25% of voters, the hard core Trump supporters, who are incapable of separating themselves from their fantasy, and somehow believe a guy who lost the presidency and both the Senate and House is the answer to their political salvation. You ask for an independent investigation. The Trump campaign challenged results in states they wanted to challenge, and they lost. There you go. That is how elections work. There is no reason to add another layer to this just because Trump can’t accept defeat. And who would run a so-called investigation? The DOJ as I already pointed out found no evidence and that was run by Barr. So you want to put together some outside team? Led by who? With what investigatory powers? And when they reach the same conclusion the states and DOJ reached, will Trump and his supporters accept that? Are you so naive to think they will? What should have been done is for leaders of both parties to stand side by side and confirm in no uncertain terms that the election was fair and that Biden was elected. But that would involve integrity, which is in very short supply these days. As you say, we can go back and forth but it boils down to this: when you know that 2+2=4 and some if the population swear 2+2=5, or when you know the sky is blue but some of the population say it’s purple, and they say it because a guy like Trump tells them so, that is your problem. The political system in our country is far from perfect. But to fix it your have to focus on facts, and you have to fight against deliberate lies. Joe Biden is President because he was duly elected in a free and fair election. Rather than indulge those who want to live in conspiracy we would all benefit from focusing on the truth. Reviewing this I sound harsh, and apologize for the tone as I believe you are sincere in wanting to establish good dialog. But my general approach and opinion stand regardless of my harshness-I am just tired of what this continues to do to our country.

The federal government needs to get back to doing what is proscribed by the Constitution. Those things that only a federal government can do. That would cut spending tremendously.

When we take over the White House (we still have to flip a coin for which of us takes which position), we can wipe out around 6 cabinet departments minimum, don’t you think? Then I get a good accountant to tell me what each Senator and Congressman gets in federal funding, and I give them a month to tell me what cuts they make to decrease their federal spending by 30%. If they don’t I arbitrarily decide, then send the bill to Congress.

Go do it. The trials showed no real risks for any of the 3.

I agree with opening schools. So does the current administration. I have my vaccination. Do you?

It is time for people who care about the country to stand up against lies. If that means I’m triggered I’m proud to be so.

I am not a Democrat. I am Independent. There is absolutely no evidence that the election was stolen, and all those who care for actual democracy need to stand up and say so. As for fraud in the Democratic nominations, show me your proof.

The election was not stolen. Stop with this crap.

So be it. I’d keep Cozins and Dahiln.

I got the Pfizer early on since I work in health care. No problems.

If guys like Eichel and others hadn’t done it for 3 coaches I’d agree. Effort is on the guys on the ice. Where is the leadership within the team? How many coaches get thrown under the bus? McD got it going by making it clear what he expected, and getting rid of guys who weren’t bought in. Do the same with the Sabres.

Not that I’m liberal, although you seem to think so. But in the third post in this thread I said he should resign.

Very well stated

When history looks back at this pandemic, it will be very critical of how politics took precedence over science and medicine.

I work in reproductive medicine, and was for a time the go to person for interviews with one of the local news stations when such subjects came up. One was the story of the man expecting a baby. The individual was biologically female (XX) but identified as male. My response in the interview was that it was not surprising that an individual who is biologically female was having a baby (I put it in more delicate terms than that). I have seen a number of such patients over the years, and it is not as black and white as some want to make it. These individuals go through a lot of psychologic trauma. And sometimes the gender reassignment doesn’t fix that, or in fact can make it worse. I think surgical intervention should be held off until the patient can consent independent of parents. If a child identifies with the opposite gender and to be raised as such then appropriate family counseling is very important before one would initiate any hormonal therapy. As far as transexual involvement in sports, I think if you have not had gender reassignment surgery to remove the testes, and you identify as female, then it seems reasonable to look at testosterone levels to determine eligibility.

Yes they can and yes that is capitalism. For example, back in the day when some refused to buy French fries because companies didn’t rename them “freedom fries” I was perfectly happy cruising through Mickey D’s for my fix.

Didn’t catch that it was a joke. My bad.

K9, you are flat out wrong. An NFL owner can own two different sports franchises if they are in the same market. Paul Allen owns the Trail Blazers and Seahawks because they consider that the same market. And I think they even relaxed it more in 2018. Just admit you're wrong when you're wrong. Here's a link, they can even own say a hockey team in a city where another owner has an NFL team as of 2018. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/17/nfl-finally-ditches-cross-ownership-policy/

Right. So when he sat Skinner for basically being a big tub of goo on the ice, how many people got on Kruger instead of Skinner?

I think they hoped Kruger and Adams are like McD and Beane in that they have a vision of how to build a consistent winning team, and that believe in processes to do so. For McD and Beane to do that with the Bills they had to move a lot of players out to get guys who bought in. Which brings me again to guys like Eichel. Is there a coach he will actually decide he wants to play for? Reinhardt? Skinner? When is it about the player and not the coach?

Wrong.

So let’s say Kruger gets canned. Then you’ll have Eichel and the rest of the underachievers say they are all in with what the new guy preaches, just like they’ve done the last two times. And then they’ll come out and underperform. Get players that want to play hockey.

Godspeed to your family on your mom’s passing.

And if infection rates go up?