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https://fair.org/home/are-people-getting-sick-staying-home-alone-thats-not-what-a-misinterpreted-survey-said/ Are People Getting Sick Staying Home Alone? That’s Not What a Misinterpreted Survey Said Edit - from the CNBC article in question: “If you isolate, if you take the precautions, your family won’t get infected” said Cuomo.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/09/872441984/modelers-suggest-pandemic-lockdowns-saved-millions-from-dying-of-covid-19 “Two new papers published in the journal Nature say that lockdowns put in place to slow the spread of the coronavirus were highly effective, prevented tens of millions of infections and saved millions of lives.” From May: Lockdown Delays Cost at Least 36,000 Lives, Data Show https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lockdowns-successful-evidence-from-around-the-world-2020-4 Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.02.20051417v2.full.pdf From Hapless’s boy, Trevor Bedford (and many other authors). This paper is from a while back. Cryptic transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Washington State

Congrats! Edit - ordered a copy! Don’t know when I’ll get the chance to read it though, but I definitely will as soon as I can.

@Hapless Bills Fan this is your post from the facts thread. I just had a quick question and didn’t want to clog up the other thread. Definitely very encouraging! By any chance do you know how those 2x a day health checks were done? Was it in person? Or over the phone? Also, do you know if they screened for all potential symptoms? Like the less common and/or unusual symptoms? Or just the more common stuff like fever, cough, loss of smell etc?

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/pilut-signs-two-year-deal-with-traktor-chelyabinsk-in-khl Well, that sucks. If we still qualify him, I believe we will at least hold onto his rights for a few years.

Here: The relative risk with zinc use was 1.23 (95%CI, 0.82 to 1.83) The relative risk with vitamin C use was 1.60 (95%CI, 1.12 to 2.28). This observational comparisons may suffer from confounding by indication, in that those who deemed themselves at highest risk of developing infection may have been more likely to additionally take either zinc or vitamin C. Regardless, there was no suggestion that zinc added to hydroxychloroquine had additional benefit. Among those randomized to hydroxychloroquine, those taking zinc had a 15.0% incidence of new Covid-19 versus 10.8% incidence of new Covid-19 without self-reported zinc use. Zinc has received a great deal of attention as a potential adjunctive therapy to be used with hydroxychloroquine. A 2014 in vitro study by Xue et al. used human ovarian carcinoma cell culture to examine the interaction of chloroquine and ionic zinc.4 Xue found that chloroquine acts as a zinc ionophore, increasing cellular uptake of zinc in culture media and increasing the cytotoxic effect of chloroquine to cause the death of cancer cells at levels 30-fold higher than what would be achieved in plasma with our trial’s dosing.4,5 Importantly, this lab experiment was not designed to emulate zinc levels in the average human body, but in a cell culture media which started with minimal zinc. North Americans have a very low prevalence of inadequate dietary zinc intake (<15% prevalence).6 Based on this sub-group analysis, we found no evidence of supplementary zinc intake had any effect on incidence of new Covid-19 compatible illness after high-risk exposure. The exact details of zinc formulation, dose, and duration were not queried, so this is not conclusive information. It is on page 14 here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638/suppl_file/nejmoa2016638_appendix.pdf

@Hapless Bills Fan it’s not a big deal or anything. I don’t want you to have to put a bunch of time + effort into explaining it. I understand why it can take 4+ weeks.

https://www.axios.com/who-asymptomatic-coronavirus-69c56ce3-41e0-4ea7-ab2a-de866713b4cf.html [Edit: I would still like to know what "particular studies" she refers to in her clarification. If they're there, give us a list! What's so hard here?]

https://www.axios.com/who-asymptomatic-coronavirus-69c56ce3-41e0-4ea7-ab2a-de866713b4cf.html

Yesterday was the perfect type of weather for me here in WNY - sunny and about 70. Not too hot, not too cold. Today and tomorrow (high 80’s/low ‘90’s) are going to suck. Anything much over 75 (and definitely over 80) is getting too hot for me. I lived in northern Florida for a few years. Winters were nice, but Summer was absolutely *&$#*&$ brutal there. My shoes actually melted to the blacktop once. I don’t understand how that type of heat is enjoyable for anyone. I didn’t want to leave the air conditioning. My apartment was insanely hot even with the central air. It was a crappy old military complex that had been turned into apartments though. They had no insulation, and it was in direct sunlight all day. The central a/c unit died and they had to come out and replace it. They accidentally brought the wrong unit (it was meant for a commercial building. I had a 2 bedroom apt.) but I was able to talk them into installing it. Even with that thing, I had to keep the a/c running constantly during the day to keep the apartment tolerable. I’m sure most of that had to do with the apartment itself though. I also lived in the Bay Area of CA (Santa Clara). Now that’s my type of weather!

https://www.nhl.com/news/phase-2-begins-with-voluntary-workouts/c-317114274 “NHL teams begin voluntary workouts as part of Phase 2” ‘Oilers, Islanders, Golden Knights open rinks, facilities in next step of Return to Play Plan‘

Yes, I am. Thanks.

- each team must have a detailed plan for dealing with any covid outbreaks. 2 separate plans. 1 for when facilities first start opening and 20 or less people are there, and one for when more than 20 people are there. - there will be numerous restricted areas of the facilities. They will assign employees tiers of clearance. Only tier 1+2 are allowed in the restricted areas (areas where players will be, mainly). - as players and essential personnel return (coaches, etc) they will be isolated from other employees with: separate entrances, automated doors (etc) to reduce touch points. -areas players use must be designated as restricted. - daily screening for all essential personnel that includes testing where applicable & a questionnaire. - Then some stuff about physical distancing protocols in the lunch room, locker rooms, weight room, around the facilities etc, stuff about all the different cleaning/sanitizing protocols, etc. There’s too much detail to cover it all. - all players must wear masks while inside the facility. - clubs must maintain at least a 2 week supply of n95 masks (must be nice to be able to get them so easily...), gloves, face shields, gowns, goggles. -gloves and other PPE required for staff - lots of hand sanitizer - NFL will strictly enforce compliance with all protocols.

For those now saying the lockdowns in the US were unnecessary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/ “Shutdown prevented 60 million coronavirus infections, new study finds”. 2 different studies were published on the lockdowns in the US, UK, Europe and China. 1st one: the University of California at Berkeley researchers estimate stay at home orders, business closings and travel bans ended up preventing 285 million infections in China and 60 million cases in the US. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8_reference.pdf 2nd one: researchers at Imperial College in London estimated shutdowns saved more than three million lives in 11 European countries and dropped infection rates by more than 80-percent. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2405-7

I was just coming to post this. Congrats! https://www.axios.com/new-zealand-no-coronavirus-cases-covid-19-free-1f209ae3-46e5-4343-b076-189bde8c3953.html Just shows you what early widespread testing and lockdowns can do. They acted very quickly to stop this virus and it paid off Big time.

From NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/05/871102763/new-coronavirus-hot-spots-emerge-across-south-and-in-california-as-northeast-slo “New Coronavirus Hot Spots Emerge Across South And In California, As Northeast Slows”

My comment is not at all directed at their reason for protesting, but Yeah, risky to say the least. All those people shouting in close proximity make me nervous. If someone has it, they shed more virus particles when talking loudly and/or shouting. Look at that chorus practice where 1 person had it and almost everyone there ended up sick. They were indoors and didn’t have masks on, but still. It’s the same reason I worry about Leary’s crowds for any reason. I feel like it has the potential to be a covid super spreader event. I will give them credit for at least wearing masks though. From every picture and video I saw it looked like the vast majority were wearing them. I guess we’re about to get a good idea of how effective masks are at limiting the spread of covid, huh?

https://www.forbes.com/teams/buffalo-sabres/#e96bb1564f37 The Forbes link posted earlier in this thread shows the Sabres operating income (Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) as $1.9M for 2019. It also shows they operated at a $13 million loss in 2017. Their best year ever since buying the team shows a $5M operating income. Most years seen to come in around roughly $2M. This doesn’t factor in PSE so I can’t really comment on their operating income. Im not really weighing in on this overall argument. I don’t really know enough about why they were fired to make a judgement but I can definitely see both sides.

Great news!