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- each team must have a detailed plan for dealing with any covid outbreaks. 2 separate plans. 1 for when facilities first start opening and 20 or less people are there, and one for when more than 20 people are there. - there will be numerous restricted areas of the facilities. They will assign employees tiers of clearance. Only tier 1+2 are allowed in the restricted areas (areas where players will be, mainly). - as players and essential personnel return (coaches, etc) they will be isolated from other employees with: separate entrances, automated doors (etc) to reduce touch points. -areas players use must be designated as restricted. - daily screening for all essential personnel that includes testing where applicable & a questionnaire. - Then some stuff about physical distancing protocols in the lunch room, locker rooms, weight room, around the facilities etc, stuff about all the different cleaning/sanitizing protocols, etc. There’s too much detail to cover it all. - all players must wear masks while inside the facility. - clubs must maintain at least a 2 week supply of n95 masks (must be nice to be able to get them so easily...), gloves, face shields, gowns, goggles. -gloves and other PPE required for staff - lots of hand sanitizer - NFL will strictly enforce compliance with all protocols.

For those now saying the lockdowns in the US were unnecessary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/ “Shutdown prevented 60 million coronavirus infections, new study finds”. 2 different studies were published on the lockdowns in the US, UK, Europe and China. 1st one: the University of California at Berkeley researchers estimate stay at home orders, business closings and travel bans ended up preventing 285 million infections in China and 60 million cases in the US. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8_reference.pdf 2nd one: researchers at Imperial College in London estimated shutdowns saved more than three million lives in 11 European countries and dropped infection rates by more than 80-percent. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2405-7

I was just coming to post this. Congrats! https://www.axios.com/new-zealand-no-coronavirus-cases-covid-19-free-1f209ae3-46e5-4343-b076-189bde8c3953.html Just shows you what early widespread testing and lockdowns can do. They acted very quickly to stop this virus and it paid off Big time.

From NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/05/871102763/new-coronavirus-hot-spots-emerge-across-south-and-in-california-as-northeast-slo “New Coronavirus Hot Spots Emerge Across South And In California, As Northeast Slows”

My comment is not at all directed at their reason for protesting, but Yeah, risky to say the least. All those people shouting in close proximity make me nervous. If someone has it, they shed more virus particles when talking loudly and/or shouting. Look at that chorus practice where 1 person had it and almost everyone there ended up sick. They were indoors and didn’t have masks on, but still. It’s the same reason I worry about Leary’s crowds for any reason. I feel like it has the potential to be a covid super spreader event. I will give them credit for at least wearing masks though. From every picture and video I saw it looked like the vast majority were wearing them. I guess we’re about to get a good idea of how effective masks are at limiting the spread of covid, huh?

https://www.forbes.com/teams/buffalo-sabres/#e96bb1564f37 The Forbes link posted earlier in this thread shows the Sabres operating income (Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) as $1.9M for 2019. It also shows they operated at a $13 million loss in 2017. Their best year ever since buying the team shows a $5M operating income. Most years seen to come in around roughly $2M. This doesn’t factor in PSE so I can’t really comment on their operating income. Im not really weighing in on this overall argument. I don’t really know enough about why they were fired to make a judgement but I can definitely see both sides.

Great news!

We have lost over 106,000 american lives in just 3 months. Our worst “average flu” seasons see about 30-60,000 deaths over a 9+ month span. In a flu season that sees 60,000 deaths, that averages to about 225 deaths per day. With Covid19 we are still currently at roughly 1000 deaths per day, and back in April we were seeing over 2000 deaths per day. The black line shows the seasonal baseline. 2018/19 was the worst flu season we’ve seen since the 2009 swine flu pandemic. Look how it compared to 2020. We don’t yet know the exact mortality rate, but we know enough to say that this virus is definitely dangerous. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/so-how-deadly-is-covid-19/ So How Deadly Is COVID-19? ‘We still don’t know, and it doesn’t really matter right now; it’s plenty deadly’

Yes. It’s still here. It looks like we are still seeing over 1000 deaths a day looking at the CDC site. Over 106,000 total deaths by their count. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html I think it’s just taken a back seat for the moment as far as news coverage goes. It definitely seems to be under control much better in NYS where I’m at, but I’m still taking all the same precautions. Things seem to be trending in the right direction in many states, which is great to see. I’m hopeful that continues. But I think we are probably far from dome with this virus, though I’d love to be wrong. We haven’t even started flu season yet this year. I doubt that it’ll just be magically gone by then, but I pray it is. That would be amazing.

Glad to hear back from you! and glad to hear you are doing ok and getting better each day. That’s a bummer you’re still getting winded but that seems to be a pretty common complaint and one of the longer lasting symptoms for many. It might be worth trying some deep breathing and lung clearings exercises. Best wishes on a continued, speedy recovery!

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Yeah that was a bummer. I’m hoping they’ll post some videos of the landing on Twitter/YouTube. Its amazing that it landed almost dead center on the landing pad!

I went and watched a couple launches in person when I lived in Florida (years ago). They were space shuttle launches. Drove 4 hours to Kennedy to see the launch. It was cancelled. Drove back a week or two later and got to see it. It really is cool to see in person. It’s soo loud. It hits you right in the chest.

They’re saying they are on schedule for the launch. It’s showing 38 minutes to launch (it’s currently 2:45pm est). Edit, yep sounds like a go!

I’m curious of that myself. I honestly don’t know what the plan is as of now. I’m sure will will find out. I would think that they know there will probably be some positive cases to deal with and I’m guessing they will have some type of protocol in place to deal with it without shutting down again, but who knows? Some of this stuff could depend on where we’re at w/this pandemic this fall. The NFL and NHL seem pretty determined to play, so i’m thinking they’ll find a way. It sounds like the NHL will be keeping players basically in quarantine for the duration of their playoff series. I wonder if something similar could happen with the NFL (if it’s absolutely necessary)?

It’s still not 100% for sure that Erie County will move into phase two on Tuesday. It looks like we likely will, but there will be an will be announced on Monday confirming if we are or not. You can see the guidelines each business needs to follow in the 1st tweet.

Yeah I love that about him. I think his positivity was needed in the Sabres locker room. I still have faith in Krueger. I want to see what he can do with a better lineup. I’m bummed that we won’t get to see Krueger coach in this playoff “play-in” tournament. He’s made his name coaching tournament hockey and he’s got some pretty big upsets on his record.

Paragraph right after the one you quoted: From the study linked: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2 https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.03444 I don’t see how what you quoted invalidates everything in the article. Even if wearing a mask doesn’t fully stop the spread of aerosolized virus particles, it still cuts down their spread vs not wearing a mask and it significantly cuts down the spread of droplets (currently thought to be the main way the virus is spread). So I don’t see how wearing a mask could do any harm, and even if it’s only 40% effective (they’re saying it may be closer to 80%), wouldn’t it be worth it? Wearing a mask isn’t a perfect solution. But what is the science based argument for not wearing a mask? Is there one? Doesn't it seem more likely that wearing a mask will help prevent the spread vs not wearing anything over your nose and mouth? What other solution is being proposed to help cut down the spread? If there’s a better solution I’m all for it. Wearing a mask and social distancing seems to be the best we have at the moment.

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