SouthNYfan

Yeah man Plenty have More have busted The ones that succeed though are legit all time greats

Except by every single scouting report it is. Rudolph's arm is weaker than the top prospects. That's a fact. Throwing it 50+ in the air with maximum effort with a long windup isn't the same as a a guy who can do it effortlessly. Watch film. He struggles with tight windows because of velocity.

He's a bum.

I got a 32 with no practice. I also don't know what the F*ck the test has to do with being a QB.

Yep. My only concern is his durability/injury history. Bradford 2.0 is a legit concern. Other than that? Nope. He a stud.

But... Does Charles Barkley like him? What about Nick saban?

"Most NFL ready" = "has already hit his ceiling, better hope he's good enough already"

He did LITERALLY "answer a lot of questions" about his attitude. Not saying those answers cleared anything up ?

Yeah I dunno it was the first song that came to mind I want Mayfield to go full Ric flair though

I assume you meant Mayfield? I hear the Benny Hill theme

No, but if you squint his chart looks kinda like NY! **Foreshadowing** (Do you have charts for other guys??)

He will already be so fresh and so clean clean from the inside out though.

Peyton and Brees broth arrived NO in 2006 He also was the QB coach in Dallas who picked up and groomed Romo as an undrafted FA. He also tried to trade for Romo when he was a backup, before they signed Brees. The guy knows his QBs. This is why I think he's trying to get one to drop so they can get him.

That's like an appetizer.

We throwing feces too?? That much chili gonna get the innards moving...

I dunno. The home Depot in Charlottesville had a whole lotta tiki torches. Also I'll settle for any of the following: -pitchfork -shovel -pickaxe -rake -axe -grenades

I want pitchforks and torches an a march on OBD. This also applies to drafting Rudolph or Jackson at #12.

Watkins, while great when healthy, was shaking hurt, had a big payday coming, and hadn't committed to wanting to be in Buffalo for good. Darby's play had fallen off significant after his first year. They saw an opportunity to get draft capital in this year's draft.

After 100% The durability would be the only reason they don't move up. That's the only reason he isn't a #1 lock. If kaep was Aaron Rodgers he would be employed.

It's okay thurmanator thinks they won't take him bc he's a "social justice warrior millennial"

You don't like Rosen? No way. Who knew??

I understand what you're saying. The point is that Rudolph almost certainly won't be available at #22, so they would have to take him at #12 The other issue is "BPA" is Rosen or Mayfield at #12 due to positional value. An 8/10 QB is more valuable than a 10/10 cb for example. They don't "covet" Rudolph over Rosen or Mayfield. No GM in the NFL does. It's whether they want to pay the price to get one of the big 4. If Rosen or Mayfield slide to #12 there is no way in hell they pass on either one there, unless something major happens between now and the draft (like one of them killing somebody or getting injuredb in a big way)

Twice earlier you said he fits their culture. Sorry I used the word "feelings" Again, is Rosen or Mayfield are available at #12 they aren't going to pass for a guy with clearly inferior talent like Rudolph. It's just not going to happen. As I said, they might decide to keep the picks and roll the dice with whoever falls to them, but it won't be any of the top4 at #12. If they do that, they basically tied their hands to take Rudolph or Jackson at #12 because another team will reach and take him before #22 due to the importance of the position.

Exactly what I'm saying. If prospects are roughly equal, then you can go with the "character guy" In this case Rudolph is so far below Rosen and Mayfield that there's no way they pass on one of them if available to take the guy who fits their culture.

It's an emotional reaction that you are making assumptions based on the "feelings of the culture" Rosen and Mayfield are dramatically ahead of Rudolph as far as talent and objective measurements. I have no doubt that any front office looks at personality/off the field things when making their evaluation. The issue, in THIS case, is the talent gap is dramatic, to the point that I guarantee no team in the NFL would rather have Rudolph over Mayfield or Rosen if the costs were the same. If they were sure Rudolph was going to be there at #22, I could see them saying "let's stick to another impact player at #12, and get Rudolph at #22" rather than trade up for Rosen/Mayfield. That not crazy, in a vacuum. The issue is, as I said earlier, that's a huge risk, because after him, it's an even bigger drop-off to the next tier of guys, which means you have to take him at #12 to assure you get him, and if, and that's a big if, Rosen or Mayfield is available at #12 along with Rudolph, there is no way they take Rudolph over one of them.