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I agree, it doesn't move the needle for me either The funny part is how we read this. Imo Dunne isn't a very effective writer, so where you guys see malice by omission or innuendo I see a guy who could have written a way more damaging piece but lacks the chops to put it all together in such a way

Interesting to me how folks material I recognize as overtly critical of Allen will go to the mat for McDermott it weirdly lends some secondhand credence to the articles point about their HC/QB relationship or lack thereof

I'm not saying this to make anyone mad or be provocative. But I don't think I've been wrong on McDermott since he lost me at 13seconds. People got big mad when I called him a fraud this off-season. That word has now been revealed to be used liberally in description of him. People got big mad after week4 when I said he wasn't very bright. That's almost unequivocally true at this point. Is there confirmation bias wrt this article and how I've viewed McDermott for the last 2 years, absolutely. But it rings 100% dead center accurate to me.

The metrics point to this being a very good team It's been an unlikely combination of issues that have produced our W/L

Not to me Not for a guy who's been here from the beginning. That was as tepid as could be from Hyde imo

I wouldn't even characterize Hyde as especially enthusiastic in support

So you say 'It was said on social media that they were at a party...so they were inside' Then I say...well, maybe whoever wrote that on social media was wrong and had ulterior motives and there actually was no party and they broke no COVID rules. See how pointless that is?

That's because you haven't read the article which says 'Multiple sources indicate that McDermott was especially harsh toward Hall and paid him a salary so low it was insulting.' So since we're making up stories, maybe the wideouts all hated McDermott so much they decided to stick it to him for mistreating and underpaying their position coach and buy him a gift that was sure to drive McDermott crazy.

'...McDermott told his staff he pays them to be a coach. Not a friend. Other coaches could not believe his cold response.' is the quote wrt to Hall. You thinking it's a completely valid and reasonable explanation that McDermott was in fact worried about the perception of bribery from his million dollar WR room to their position coach is bonkers in context...which you would know if you had read the article.

So neither of you have read it lol

You haven't even read the article

I don't remember what the COVID rules were but they were outside As far as gift giving being problematic the only factual basis I've seen is because you and he feel that it is

And Chad Hall leaving in a lateral move was just a coincidence right

Bananas dude You're spinning

Trying to say that it's reasonable to assume the truck was a bribe from the wideouts to their position coach in order to absolve McDermott is really wild

It's not really a good comparison In this case some of the subordinates make like 20x what the supervisor does Lol exactly

Interesting header I would personally not characterize that as a strong statement of support at all, esp coming from a guy who's been here from the beginning

big difference being the Chiefs were able to win SBs before AND after Mahomes contract kicked in

here - One story comes to mind. Take a position traditionally teeming with eccentric personalities. Chad Hall played wide receiver, was much closer in age and — clearly — has a gift for managing egos in his room. The Bills receivers loved Hall so much that they bought him a truck for Christmas in 2020. An objectively touching moment that Isaiah McKenzie shared via Instagram. In the dark, in the rain, you see Stefon Diggs and Andre Roberts lead Hall out to the driveway with a beanie over the coach’s eyes. On the audio, Cole Beasley says that this was originally Gabe Davis’ idea and that they all chipped in. It's impossible for any sane person to watch this heartwarming video and not feel happy for Hall. Obviously, this coach had made a profound impact on those receivers’ lives — why anyone gets into coaching in the first place. But Sean McDermott? Oh boy. Sean McDermott was not pleased. One source described this as “a dark day at One Bills Drive.” Not only was the head coach pissed that players were gathering as a group during Covid, McDermott told his staff he pays them to be a coach. Not a friend. Other coaches could not believe his cold response. They had never seen anything like this in their careers. Not only were the Bills’ wide receivers shattering franchise records. Right here was the ultimate sign of respect. Said one assistant: “I thought it was cool as *****. And he made it into the biggest negative ever. That’s him. He couldn’t take that. He couldn’t handle that. He couldn’t let that be. He couldn’t let that stand. And there’s cases of that more so on the offensive side of the ball than the defensive side. He has zero relationship with the offensive players. Zero. None. Absolutely zero. He’s insecure. He wants the relationship that he can’t have with the players. Because he’s not physically, mentally, or socially able to.” And another: “Sean was pissed. He was super pissed. One of Sean’s biggest things is, coaches that related to the players, it was almost like he resented it. He’d always say, ‘I have to be the bad cop. You guys are always the good cop.’ He always hated the fact that players liked a couple of coaches. It was frowned upon.” This coach cannot help but laugh at the absurdity of such a statement. Multiple sources indicate that McDermott was especially harsh toward Hall and paid him a salary so low it was insulting. Hall declined to comment for this story.

I think for public figures that risk comes w the territory to my reading of it everything pertained to how he and his team perform which would be relevant imo i make no inferences on his character as a result of that article

I mean if it's true...

I've heard Edelman say similar things on podcasts recently fwiw

Why would they feel one way or another about it?

“Me and Sean got along great,” Smith said. “No one wants the Buffalo Bills to be better. No one wants to do it right more than Sean McDermott. He’s not that guy that’s going to be meeting a player for a beer after practice or after the game. He’s a worker, man. He’s a worker. He’s the boss. He’s obsessed with growing and being great at the boulders and not the pebbles. “The only thing that matters is being consistent, being genuine, and having a damn good locker room.” Added DiMarco: “He didn’t serve in the military, but he has that wrestler’s mindset of just: ‘You’re part of a team, look like the rest of everybody, go out, play your ass off and celebrate and do whatever you want after the game, after we get the job done. But until the job’s done, enough with the cute *****. Go succeed.’ Which you can’t argue with.”