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There was Josh Gordon, but didnt fit the "culture" I guess

Final Year of his deal and HOLDING OUT so the Trade also came with a new contract https://www.espn.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9195939/new-york-jets-trade-darrelle-revis-tampa-bay-buccaneers

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Revis was in the middle of a Hold out and had very similar stats and was a 1st and a 4th in 2013. Sorry Gilmore WOULD have gotten a 1st.

I want him to be a QB. That comes with Hero Ball. It also comes with no having predetermined throws ala EJ Manual. or Ultra Safe shots (Josh as said Miss long over and over again because it is coached NOT to underthrow for a PICK could happen.) They do, but if that is because Beane really thinks that way or is that because Beane understands the GM roll is to get the best player that fits the vision of the HC (this we may Never know unless Beane outlasts McD).

Yep the reality is this team three years after rebuilding is looking a lot like the teams they "rebuilt" from. ALOT of treading water just for the sake of getting very specific scheme specific players.

While Beane gets the players he gets the groceries in accordance with the HC recipe. that is why I wont marry these too together. When he is being coached away from that ability that they drafted it becomes concerning. 1. Either the QB cant handle what they are trying to do or 2. The Coaching staff is trying to put him in a box he doesnt fit. He has alot of the no good enough discussions with TT and I fear we are going to be there with Allen as well

TBH if the Bills miss the playoffs I am all about firing McConservative. (Dont think it will happen though)

I have been shaken with Josh Allen so I am not willing to hang my hat on that he is a Franchise QB

Sure the BEST mind in the league handed him a 5 year 65M contract immediately. Not to mention a Team that rarely does that in UFA. I think that should show you the league perception of him. So unlike your argument, I have data to support the claim Gilmore would have gotten at least a 1st in a trade. Seeing you mention hold out, where is the Data that Gilmore was going to hold out?

If Milano or Lorax go down I would feel a heck of alot better with Brown coming in over Stanford or Thompson

I just want him for Depth, and to help against the Run

3 weeks left have to have the Pats avatar for a month

True they were offered more earlier but that is what you get when the HC is unqualified to make that decision. But the Tag and Trade just happened 3 times this year. guess it is no longer Rare

And yet I just showed you an expiring contract at the same position with the same stats got a 1st and a 4th in 2013. So yeah I really do think you do not understand value. Or Ramsey once year left (lesser stats) gets 2 1sts and a 4th this year. If a team calls about Tre White would he bring a first?

So Wasnt Dee Ford Clowney

SO ABSOLUTELY NO Data to back up your opinion vs actual Data. Yeah I think I know I am right that he would have gotten at least a first. Hell Mikah Fitzpatrick gets a first.

No the Drought is over we celebrate (however the Real one is what now 23 years?)

It tells me that there was a NEW coach (calling the shots) and a Lame Duck FO. While I am not going to KILL McD for this lack of trade (there are other things I can point to) but this is one Data Point out of many. Decision was made for the tear down, that is what was told to us the MINUTE McD was hired. and that was later confirmed when Whaley was shut out of the draft room and replaced right after. To NOT get value for Gilmore was a wrong move. Press CBs get penalties yes that HAPPENS We all lov Tre White too. 9 int, 3ff, 35PD in 41 games. What is Tre White's Value in a Trade? But People will tell m Tre White would not be moved for less than a 1st and well is a very similar player to Gilmore, but I am the one that doesnt know value. Jalen Ramsey 9 INT, 3FF, 45 PD in 54 games - Less than Gilmore across the board gets 2 1sts and a 4th in a trade.

Yep and even if they didnt work out a trade maybe they signed that long term deal. What would Bills defense be now with Gilmore and White on the outside??????

None of them Should. An owner would his salt would not accept missing the playoffs this year and this loss hurts those chances alot. But them Again Terry and Kim really dont know what they are looking at sooooooo

I dont even think that. Beane chose Allen over Rosen (smart) and Jackson (not looking smart). McD Pass on Mahomes and Watson and Rosen and Jackson. So I think Beane will get another shot at finding a QB

Just asking Who has the Pull. That is why I think Beane outlasts McD. Yeah that is about right by looking at his contract.

Really.,.... Revis before Trade..... 19 INTs, 1 FF, 78 PD in 79 games Gilmore before allowed to walk for nothing: 14 INTs, 3 FF, 62 PD in 66 games (2 years younger) So tell me again how they are not comparable. The Bold would be you, we get it your hate for Gilmore cloud your inability to judge his play

5th year Option is not Guaranteed. They can cut him at end of season no harm