
MPT
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Where on earth did you get those odds with the 49ers favored?
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Your poorly spelled post finally convinced me! You're absolutely right, despite having nothing to back up your argument.
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Look, guys, I'm sorry to rain on your referee fan club parade. The defender had one goal on this play: get to the punter and try to block the kick. He put a lot of effort into it and actually succeeded in doing so. It was just too late. There was no "toss" or "throw" by Johnson; he got absolutely manhandled and pushed to the side. When the defender disengages from him to dive at Martin, Johnson is just left standing there because he had zero control over the defender. Just for your reference, this is the part of the rule you guys are concerned with: "6. occurs because a defender is pushed or blocked (causing a change of direction) into the kicker" Show me where the defender makes anything but a straight intentional path to the punter. You can't, because there's video of him doing just that. Show me where Johnson pushes or blocks the defender into Martin. You can't, because he's obviously attempting (although failing) to block the defender away from Martin. This is like some Stockholm syndrome stuff you guys got going on. "Oh no, the defender couldn't have possibly done what he did even though that's exactly what he was trying to do! It's actually our fault they missed it!"
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That play gets called almost every time. The defender's goal in that situation is to get through the block and try to block the punt. The only thing keeping them from constantly diving at punters' legs is this rule and it's enforced liberally because it's so easy to injure a punter doing that, which ended up happening to Martin. The Patriots got called for running into the kicker last week, in fact, despite barely touching the punter's kicking foot. The play we're talking about this week is described verbatim in the rule as being the more serious infraction and subject to a personal foul.
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The defender bull rushed right past Johnson into Martin. Johnson was trying to block him away from Martin and got bulldozed out of the way. Please explain how someone blocks a defender into the punter with his back to the punter.
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Mac Jones Intentional Grounding - Should it have been a safety?
MPT replied to Billsfan1972's topic in The Stadium Wall
This was one of the few calls the refs got right in the game. His feet were in front of the goal line when he threw the ball so no safety. There's never any "if the play had continued..." speculation involved in sports because nobody can know what would have happened. -
Running into the kicker is when they contact the kicking leg or cause the kicker to land on top of them. Roughing the kicker is when they contact the plant leg or both legs on the ground, which he clearly did. The defender bull rushed right through Johnson. Johnson barely got in the guy's way, let alone "threw him" anywhere.
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He wasn't blocked into him. He pushed through the blocker to get to the punter and dove at his feet. Textbook roughing the kicker. Item 1. Roughing the kicker. It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player: 1. contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air 2. slides into or contacts the kicker when both of the kicker’s feet are on the ground. It is not a foul if the contact is not severe, or if the kicker returns both feet to the ground prior to the contact and falls over a defender on the ground
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That only applies if he hasn't first demonstrated a football move, one of which is explicitly stated in the rule as tucking the ball away. Which Poyer did.