jrober38

No, they started him because he was their best QB in camp and earned the job over Allen and McCarron. Say what you want, but I guarantee the Bills thought they were building off this season. I think they thought their current QBs would be an upgrade over Taylor, that their OL would be more cohesive, and that their WRs would improve. Not a single one of those things materialized. These guys simply can't evaluate talent on the offensive side of the ball.

Use that money to extend guys next year. Give White a new deal early and hope we can get him for way less than market value. Do the same things with Dawkins and Milano during next season. Do not overpay for guys who only want to be here because we paid them a lot more than anyone else offered. That's not how you build a winning team in the NFL. Sure. I won't fight it, I just don't understand why anyone who has options would want to play for the Bills unless we're grossly overpaying them relative to what everyone else is offering. I don't see anyone signing up to play for Sean McDermott and to play on an offense that scores 10 points a week.

Everything I said was factual. The roster is filled with guys they went out and got. Our terrible group of receivers is composed of guys they specifically targeted through trades. The result of their roster building, is having the worst offense in 20+ years. One of the guys you're referring to is McDermott's pet. He's had a thing for Peterman dating back to last year when he forced him on the field thinking he'd be better than Tyrod. It's not like Peterman is playing by accident. They made him the damn starter in week 1.

This is 100% what they built. They traded for their two starting receivers, giving up a 3rd for Benjamin and a 2nd for Jones. Both of which are terrible. They opted to not upgrade the OL, trading away Cordy Glenn, and signing a bunch of scrubs to fill our the depth chart even though they had plenty of time to plan for life after Glenn, Incognito and Wood. They got rid of the 2017 starting QB, and went into the summer with their guys. Peterman, McCarron and Allen were hand picked as their guys and I'd guarantee they expected that group to perform better than Taylor did last year. This is McDermott's offense. He got rid of all of Whaley's guys, and brought in his own guys who fit the culture he wants. Unfortunately none of them are quality football players.

Our HC doesn't have anything in common with the best coaches around the NFL. I don't know why anyone thinks he'll be the guy who can develop Allen given his complete lack of success on offense so far.

McDermott said himself that culture is more important than strategy. The result is a roster that's completely devoid of talent on offense, and is charting as the worst offense in NFL history when you adjust for the era we play in. These are his QBs, his Linemen, his hand picked receivers, and his tight ends. Not a single one of those positions groups is good enough. We're terrible at QB, terrible at blocking, have the worst group of receivers in the league, and have next to nothing at tight end. McDermott got the guys he wanted. The guys who fit the culture he wants to build, and the results are historically terrible. And people want to give this guy more time...... UNBELIEVABLE

Without drastically overpaying, why would any half decent free agent want to join this team in the offseason?

It's unbelievable how people can proclaim that the coach won't be fired this year under any circumstances. What if we finish 2-14 and are playing to half empty stadiums in December? What if Allen shows zero signs of improvement after he comes back? This team is a complete dumpster fire right now. Saying there definitively won't be changes in week 9 of an abysmal season where you might set the franchise record for fewest points scored doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Honestly I'm not touching free agency. The Bills aren't going to be a destination anyone wants to play next year. Our HC will be on the hot seat, we'll have an unproven QB and will have no real sales pitch to get free agents to buy in at market value. I'd ignore the top guys, can keep building out the defense with low cost veterans who can fill specific roles that will make that side of the ball more talented with more depth. If the Bills want to get better they need to nail the draft with a massive influx of talent. Beane needs to stop trading up for players, and start trading down and stockpiling value so that we can bring in 5-6 guys who can immediately contribute next year, with almost all of them needing to join the offensive side of the football. Again, this just isn't true. We didn't move the ball at all for 2.5 quarters prior to his throw to Benjamin where he got hurt. That throw represented half of his yardage on the day. All he does is dink and dunk down the field. If we take a negative play we might as well punt because Allen can't convert 3rd and long situations.

Trade down from our 1st round pick, and stock pile picks. Try to get two 1st rounders or a 1st and two 2nds. Trade down from our 2nd round pick, and stock pile picks. Try to get two 2nd rounders, or a 2nd and two 3rds. Try to turn 10 picks in the full draft into 5-6 picks in the first three rounds, then draft BPA throughout the draft. Draft two wide receivers who can actually run, two linemen, a tight end, and a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round to push Allen for the job. Instead of drafting guys who fit your culture, stop drafting guys who can't play in the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round and take some shots on some guys with real talent who might have a little baggage off the field. This team desperately needs an influx of talent. They need to get bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic at WR, on the OL, and younger at RB. They also need to keep filling out the defense the way they have been the last two offseasons.

The other guys are complete garbage. A pylon is a better option playing QB than Nate Peterman. You guys are crowning Allen for looking better than two QBs who shouldn't be in the NFL. Congratulations. Allen might get better, or like 70% of QBs picked in the first round who weren't picked #1 overall and weren't very good to begin with, he might not. Allen probably isn't going to work out. The history of the NFL clearly shows that. This just isn't true. Allen had steadily been regressing since halftime of the Vikings game. Do you guys even watch the games? He hadn't put the ball in the endzone for two full games, and you're telling me he was improving? Holy crap.

Sure, but like I said you're not fixing all those problems in one offseason.

Yes, which is why I think it's ridiculous that people assume the mass of cap space is going to solve all our problems. Cap space is best used extending players you drafted 12+ months before their contracts expire. It's poorly used when used to sign high price free agents for above market value in unrestricted free agency. Doing that is why we wound up in the problematic cap situation Whaley created.

We looked better with Allen. Sure. That's like saying, I'd rather drink the milk that expired two weeks ago vs the milk that expired 2 months ago. Neither is actually going to be good for you. Reality is that Allen was the worst starting QB in the NFL when he got hurt. Sure he's better than the other guys, but there are probably 45-50 QBs in the NFL who are better than the other guys and only about 20 of them are actually franchise calibre players, so who cares?

Acting like the OL is our only problem on O is laughable. The Bills need to get drastically better on the OL, at QB, at RB and at WR. The whole offense should be overhauled. That's not happening in one offseason.

The Bills were scoring like 13 points a game with Allen under centre. Half the teams in the league have enough cap space to feel this way. Overpaying for free agents is how the Bills got in this mess in the first place. No one is going to sign up to join a team that scores 10 points a week unless you pay them more than everyone else is offering.

Yet he finished 2nd or 3rd in the QB competition. Being big, tall, strong and a good guy off the field doesn't make a good QB. It didn't work out for EJ Manuel.

Sure. Winston would be a massive upgrade over the garbage we've fielded at QB this year.

You act like no one else in the NFL is going to try and upgrade their offensive line. Every team ranking in the top 5 of cap space needs offensive line help. There's no magic wand that's going to upgrade this offense in one offseason, especially when you consider how inept this regime has been at evaluating that side of the ball. The state of the Bills will make it very hard to sign quality FAs unless we drastically overpay this spring.

My guess is that in 3 years Allen will have been permanently benched long before Winston was.

1. Belichick 2. McVay 3. Payton 4. Tomlin 5. Reid

Being right most of the time doesn't mean much because I'm capable of following basic probabilities? OK. The upcoming offensive free agent class is terrible. Also there are 10 teams in the NFL with more than $60 mil in cap space. The Bills got into this mess by overpaying mediocre free agents. To find 7-8 new starters we'll likely have to repeat that same mistake by overpaying guys who aren't very good.

OFFENSE was the key word.

My track record for QBs going back 10 years has been very good. Thanks for focusing on one guy as if that's the only QB I liked or disliked as a prospect. The offense we're watching right now is the offense McDermott and Beane assembled. These are all their guys, and the result is the worst offense the league has seen in 20 years. And people want to give them more time to fix this dumpster fire. Hilarious.

Maybe. Or maybe he's Anthony Lynn who has the Chargers playing significantly better than they have in recent years. The point is we need something different, and I'd be fine rolling the dice on someone who learned under Andy Reid given the success his coordinators have had recently.