Nihilarian

nothing like playing like crap against the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL...

Welp, the Bills defense isn't winning this game for them. The offense needs to come alive. Daboll...

First of all...there was nobody on the Buffalo Bills staff in 2017 or on most of the NFL staffs that identified Patrick Mahones as the QB we have seen in the NFL the last few seasons. No other QB that has come out of that "Texas Tech Air Raid" offense that has developed into anything near what we see in Mahomes. Andy Reid had the talent to develop that QB. And he saw the talent and sat Mahomes for an entire season so he could sit and learn the scheme. That 2017 KC team was an already playoff team going 10-6 and had been so since 2013. Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill all already there. Mahomes in Buffalo in 2017 would have been a train wreck...would Mahomes have sat behind Tyrod or start? Bills starting receivers, WR Kelvin Benjamin, WR Deonte Thompson, TE Charles Clay... Would the soon to be fired Bills OC Rick Dennison know how to develop Mahomes... I have no idea why some Bills fans are STILL lamenting not drafting Mahomes. The Buffalo Bills have the perfect player at QB for them! Big, tall, strongest arm, big hands...played at Wyoming, so no stranger to throw in the snow. Most Buffalo Bills fans now have an ongoing love affair with a young man named Josh Allen. https://www.nfl.com/news/2017-nfl-draft-deshone-kizer-mitch-trubisky-top-qb-prospects-0ap3000000787378 Weaknesses: Despite his ridiculous production as a starter for two-plus years at Texas Tech, Mahomes is still viewed as a questionable quarterback prospect due to the pass-happy approach employed by the Red Raiders. As mentioned above, the Air Raid system rarely produces effective NFL products, and Mahomes' inexperience running a traditional offense could stunt his growth at the next level. In addition, Mahomes' sloppy footwork and mechanics will need to be retooled before he can become a more accurate passer from the pocket. Sure, he was able to overcome his shoddy technique as a collegian, but NFL defenders will make him pay for his errant tosses by snagging picks off tips or overthrows. Given the impact of turnovers on the outcome of NFL games, Mahomes' sloppy footwork must be addressed to help him play winning football at the position.

To the OP....go back in time and ask KC if home field meant anything... Back in the 90's Marty S was so upset that the road to the SB went thru Buffalo that he wanted the AFC Championship game played at a neutral site. He didn't get his way 😄 That #1 seed with homefield is everything IMO...extra week off to rest and get healthy. Opposing teams hate playing in Buffalo in front of all those crazed Bills fans. Miami @Jacksonville @ Jets Colts @ Saints Patriots @ Bucs Panthers @Patriots Falcons Jets The Ravens have yet to play Cleveland, Cincy, Pitt 2x each...plus GB and LA Rams

That's the NE playbook all day long. Simply move the chains till the red zone and punch it in. Going deep against that defense is sorta exactly what Buffalo did to KC in taking away their deep game and making them work the short stuff...they had a tough time with that! The thing is...the Bills are so geared player wise to do just that. Who got greedy...?

Good stuff Virgil. I agree and couldn't have said it better! Pisses me off too...this Titans team lost to the NY Jets! One word...overconfidence! It seemed like everyone was saying the Bills would win and it was just by how much. The Bills defense was so hell bent on stopping Henry that they forgot how to pass rush. Yet, they still couldn't stop Henry! Both Buffalo Bills lines simply aren't good enough and neither is the coaching. Buffalo played into their strengths as they tend to do on occasion. The Titans have the 24th ranked overall defense. This loss might have just lost Buffalo the home field advantage to the 5-1 Ravens. Against a Titans team Buffalo should have beaten like the Cardinals beat them in week one, 38-13.

Not with that arm of his... The reason most colleges turned him down were because after high school he was 6'2'' 180 LB scrawny kid. Josh wasn't a 5 star recruit out of high school like the others in that draft. I don't know that Wyoming was the "best fit" as it was the only fit. Out of over a thousand emails Josh sent out to colleges all over the country only Wyoming and Eastern Michigan wanted to meet with him. After the latter found out he was taking to the former... they rescinded their offer. On another note. I kinda side with LAR. I consider both Jim Kelly and Dan Marino winners as they won AFC championships to get to the SB. Besides, Hall of Famers are winners in my book.

A Buffalo Bill...!!! I can recall that 2018 draft with Cleveland with picks 1 & 4... the NY Giants at #2... the NY Jets at #3... Denver at #5... Indy Colts at #6. Baker Mayfield Saquon Barkley Sam Darnold Denzel Ward Bradly Chubb Quenton Nelson Just so happy the Bills took a gamble on an unknown kid from Wyoming! Not USC, not UCLA, not Louisville...Wyoming!

Really enjoy reading threads like this and agree with a lot of it. The Bills O line is going up against a team with four first rounders on their D line in Washington. Hope Daboll works a game plan to get the Ball out quicker and not get Josh killed this week. Beas needs to see the ball a whole lot more often.

I agree Besides, the Bills just faced two very good defenses. Defenses have caught up to what Buffalo have been doing on offense and countering it. There are also other considerations. The league allowed more holding by the lines last season in my view... that they aren't allowing this year. Brian Daboll and his game plans haven't been as good since last seasons Miami game. The Colts, Ravens playoff games. The Bills offense scored only 10 points against the Ravens all game and for whatever reason Baltimore chose not to blitz like they had in past games. The Chiefs drew up a game plan in last seasons AFC Championship game to counter the Bills offense and Pittsburgh simply followed suit. Then you have the Bills starters only played together for 2 quarters all preseason. Allen is targeting Sanders a lot in each game and he simply isn't catching everything like Brown used to do. 8 targets, 4 receptions. 6 targets, 2 receptions. Sanders saw 77% of the snaps in the Miami game and Beas only saw 60%. Diggs 78%. The Bills have two games to get it together in facing Washington and Houston. Then they face KC & Tenn. Hopefully it's just the offense now showing everything it has before those big games. All this QB under a microscope stuff is lame IMHO.

Highest rate of pressure allowed on pass plays this season... Dolphins 55% Jets 52% Saints 46% Bills 44% Lions 43% From PFF Defensive rankings, 10. Miami Dolphins, (LW: 8th) All things considered, the Miami Dolphins did a nice job against the Buffalo Bills’ offense. Miami’s secondary limited Josh Allen to 179 passing yards on 33 attempts and Stefon Diggs was contained by Xavien Howard. But the defense got tired, allowing 14 fourth-quarter points, resulting in a 35-0 finish. 8. Buffalo Bills (LW: 15) The Buffalo Bills defense is largely responsible for the shutout victory over the Miami Dolphins. Buffalo pressured Miami’s quarterbacks on 33-of-57 dropbacks, a stunning 57.9% pressure rate. Everyone made an impact in Week 2, but rookie Greg Rousseau (two sacks) is the real defensive MVP. Once the Bills’ offense figures things out, the AFC is up for grabs. https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-defense-rankings/ Washington #6 Pittsburgh #4 Patriots #3 Bucs #2

Good stuff as usual Virgil. It was good to see the Bills win a game with Josh Allen NOT needing to attempt to carry the game. The defense played great from the very start and kept it up all game. They carried this game. 33 passes, 30 runs was a better balance. Interesting... Miami caught more passes and and had more passing yards. Let's not forget that the Miami defense has a very good secondary with two of the highest paid corners in the league. Opposing teams have had all offseason to figure out Buffalo's offensive passing scheme and defenses have caught up. They all watched that 2020 AFC championship game in which the Chiefs only rushed four and dropped more into coverage. We can expect more difficulty in Buffalo passing the ball until Daboll can work some magic with the offense. Getting that run game working with some scripted runs/short throws to start the game might help. I have faith the Bills offense will start clicking soon. Would like to see Beas with more targets, 4 targets, 4 catches!! Same with Kumerow to see more targets...one target for Jake doesn't cut it.

"Davis is dealing with a lower body injury." https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/15/gabriel-davis-out-of-practice-for-bills/

My take is Daboll has complete control of the offense and he is hell bent of making that Buffalo passing game work... no matter what. He wants to see Josh Allen MVP as he sees it as a feather in his cap. He wants the Bills to be an all out passing team with no need for the run game besides being a distraction at times. I kind of get the impression that the Chargers didn't offer him enough money, control or both as HC. I don't know if the "league" has figured out Daboll. However, I do know the Chiefs and Steelers have. It really will be a long season for Bills fans if the other teams have caught on. We will see Sunday as the 1-0 Miami Dolphins should be fielding a decent defense.

Which is something that Brian Daboll has failed to do since last seasons Miami game. The Buffalo offense just hasn't been as innovative or explosive as it was prior to the playoffs in 2020. The Bills run the ball 38 times against the Patriots in their first meeting and the next week confound the Seahawks the next week by heaving it all over. I don't mind the Bills passing 30-40 times a game if it is working...30 of 51 pass attempts for 270 yards and yet the Bills only scored 16 points all game against Pittsburgh. Bills WR Jake Kumerow saw only 3 snaps all game, at 6'4'' you would think he would make a perfect red zone target. The New England offense is supposed to make first downs over and over till the red zone and then punch it in. Forget the big play if it isn't working and just move the chains, get into a rhythm. Putting the game entirely on the QB's doesn't always work and when that plan doesn't work. Have a game plan besides 51 pass attempts.

It is a bit disturbing that the Bills got this one so wrong. That and they still have faith in the players on the roster that can't seem to get it done. The Bills need to hire someone who can actually evaluate talent at the OG position.

On a different note...its just one game out of 17. Just think, we could be the Green Bay Packers... who benched last seasons MVP in the 4th and lost to the NO Saints 38-3.🤪

First off, the Steelers have a top 5 defense and were #3 overall last season. They had time all offseason to dissect the Buffalo offense. The Steelers also looked a lot like the Chiefs in shutting down the Buffalo passing game. This season might be in trouble if the offense continues with this one dimensional offensive game plan. The passing game isn't working...no plan B...just keep throwing 51 times? Where was the innovation in the passing game? It's games like this that make me yearn for the Bills to build a power running attack to compliment that awesome passing attack (when it works) that can help take the game off the QB shoulders. Does Buffalo need two pro bowl offensive guards? Or can they go with who they have on the line and simply run the ball more often? Penalties 8-81...drive killers. Will it be a long season...

Good stuff Virgil Perhaps not playing the starters enough in preseason hurt their performance for the opener...who knows. Just like against KC in last years championship game...the Buffalo offensive line simply wasn't good enough in the game to protect Allen. Think back to the 2020 season and when Allen had time in the pocket he did whatever he wanted game after game and the results were great things in the passing game. Singletary 11 carries for 72 yards, a 6.5 average. Yes, one 25 yard run. Josh Allen, 30 of 51 for 270 yards. Allen 9 rushes for 44 yards. 51 pass attempts... That 2020 Pittsburgh defense was #3 overall and they showed up big this season again against the pass. They were #3 in passing attempts and passing yards allowed all that year. #12th in rush attempts and 11th in rush yards allowed. My biggest fear going into this game was that Steelers RB Najee Harris (6'1 232 lbs) was going to run all over Buffalo for big yards, he didn't! 16 carries for 45 yards, 2.8 YPC avg. The Buffalo defense showed up today. Special teams had a huge breakdown. No argument from me here. Where was Jake Kumerow? Someone still on vacation after that 2020 Miami game? On another note, As good as that Green Bay Packers offense was supposed to be this season. Aaron Rodgers was shown the bench in a 38-3 loss in NO. The Bills play that Saints team week 12.

This! That Bills O line wasn't good enough against KC and it didn't improve. Also, the Steelers who almost always field a top defense had an entire off season to study that Bills passing offense and Allen's tendency's. Might need to get used to a long, long season if this team attempts to stay one dimensional.

Kinda funny how Terry Bradshaw isn't even mentioned anymore... a guy who won 4 SBs. Montana won 4, Aikman 3. I suppose that's a good thing as I can't stand the Steelers or their fans. I even smiled when #55 took a penalty. Anyway...On a very good team!! How many hall of famers on those 90's Bills teams? There should be a few more too. Tasker, Hull, Bennett, and perhaps Ritcher, Wolford too. Neither Elway, nor Marino had a RB like Thurman Thomas who was so dominant at his position. Marshall Faulk before Marshall Faulk. Those early 90's Bills ran more than they threw a lot of those years. After Don Shula drafted Marino and watched what Danny could do with his arm... he forgot all about what won him his super bowls... a stout run game and defense. Kiick, Csonka, Morris along with a no name defense. There sat QB John Elway on a Denver team with an ex-NFL RB for a HC... then a DC for a HC. Finally, after Denver hired a decent OC as HC, who installed a top ground game and let Elway manage the game, the Broncos won some super bowls. Kinda like Manning with his last SB, win along with a great defense. Montana and Young came from that Bill Walsh WCO offensive scheme. Wanna know what Steve Young was like without that offense. Look at the 1986 Tampa Bay Bucs with no Jerry Rice. As much as I hate to say it, Brady is #1...the freaking GOAT! However, I must admit I did enjoy watching Brady win the SB...only because that Bucs D chased Mahomes for nearly 500 yards behind the LoS.

Who made who? It was Brandon Beane that drafted Josh Allen when most were clamoring for Josh Rosen. Also, most Bills fans wanted the Bills to trade up with the NY Giants and give up the farm in doing so for Rosen. Thankfully, Beane knew what he was doing. Beane also traded the Buffalo Bills #1 draft pick for Diggs..."The Buffalo Bills acquired the Vikings receiver and a 2020 seventh-round pick in exchange for a 2020 first-round pick (No. 22 overall), a 2020 fifth-round pick, a 2020 sixth-round pick and a 2021 fourth-round pick". https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-acquire-wr-stefon-diggs-from-vikings-in-trade-0ap3000001106563 There is no question that Allen is the better passing QB, between he and Larmar Jackson. Lastly, what I find amusing is that the Ravens now want to turn Jackson into more of a pocket passer...this with Greg Roman as his OC. We all saw what happened with Colin Kaepernick in SF under Roman when they attempted this same thing.

Like the man said, Morse might be one head bump away from retiring and Humphrey was listed as a pretty darn good OC. KC signed Ex Patriots Joe Thuney now the highest paid OG in the league. They brought back OG Andrew Wylie. Signed retired 3x pro bowler OL Kyle Long who was a OG and now listed as a OT. The Chiefs traded with the Ravens for pro bowl OT Orlando Brown Jr who wanted to leave Baltimore because he wanted to start at LT. They have seven OT's listed on their 2021 roster including Brown. Sounds like some major upgrades to me. I don't even want to think about what the Bills O line would have looked like playing against that Bucs D... if the Chiefs could do that to the Bills. Not...good...enough!

For whatever reason the O line is usually my biggest concern! We all saw what happened to what many consider the best young QB in the NFL when he didn't have time to throw in SB LV. While it did make my season to watch Mahomes running for his life for nearly 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage in that super bowl. This the reason why the Chiefs spent so much to rebuild their O line this off season. The Bills couldn't keep Frank Clark off Josh in that AFC Championship game! KC 4 sacks in all, 10 QB hits in all on Josh. While the Bills did manage to run 18 times for 129 yards, it was mostly Allen 7 rushes for 88 yards. Motor 6 for 17 yards, Yeldon, 3 for 15...38-24. It does give me pause for concern that the Bills offensive line simply isn't good enough... Those 90's Bills used to dominate with the line in the run and pass game all season long... Until they ran into a better team in those SBs. The Giants ran the ball down the Bills throats. The Redskins game the Bills O line was so beat up that they were using TE Metz as a tackle in the AFC Champ game against Denver. The Cowboys had the better lines on both sides of the ball. I'm with the guy who stated he was upset that the Bills passed on Creed Humphrey, only to see the Chiefs draft him.

Ed Oliver was the 9th overall pick in 2019. In 7 game starts, 16 games played he had 5 sacks in 2019. In 2020 in 16 games, game starts he had 3 sacks. AJ Epenesa was a second round pick in 2020, 54th overall. one sack. Trading away that 2020 1st round pick pick for the NFLs leading yardage, receptions receiver in Diggs. I'd say these defensive players are still being developed in McD's and Leslie Frazier's scheme. Trust the process. With Star back on the line I'd think this season will be better for those two. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and sometimes you hit... and sometimes you don't! I'd say Brandon Beane's record on the draft has been pretty darn good so far. Just gotta wait and see.