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OK, so far that's 2 for me. None for you. LOL

My point is this... If these GM's had a higher percentage of drafting Pro Bowl players than Belichick, and he's got more rings, what's the point of these numbers? Show me the rings, not meaningless Pro Bowls.

Exactly my point. Thanks for proving my point that the Pro Bowl means nothing.

Drafting is different from signing. Hughes, Shady, Tyrod and Mario don't count in this list since they weren't drafted. This counts DRAFTED. Reading is fundamental. It does mean nothing. If it meant a whole lot, why did we trade our Pro Bowl QB to to the Browns?

Does it matter who's right? How many of these "Pro Bowlers" made a direct impact? LOL This means nothing. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Let's look at our "PRO BOWLERS" from this list from 2000 til now. Reuben Brown, Sam Gash, Sam Cowart, Ted Washington, Eric Moulds, Larry Centers, Takeo Spikes, Travis Henry, Terrence McGee, Sam Adams, Brian Moorman, Mike Schneck, Aaron Schobel, Nate Clements, Jason Peters, Marshawn Lynch, Jairus Byrd, Kyle Williams, CJ Spiller, Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, Tyrod Taylor, Eric Wood, Richie, McCoy... How many of these guys have the Bills drafted from 2000 til now? Clements, Schobel, Travis Henry, Kyle Williams, Marshawn Lynch, Eric Wood, Jairus Byrd, CJ Spiller, Marcell Dareus. I'm not even counting alternates because that just further proves my point that Pro Bowl means nothing. Out of this list of players we've drafted since 2000, how many players made a difference for us? Kyle Williams and... And before you start crying about me not including anyone from the Polian era, I'm only counting 2000-NOW because according to this BS stat you gave us, 2001-2009 included our highest percentile.

Many would agree with me

Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest. This means nothing

Yea, I heard them say that, just don't believe it but obviously the Giants are the wildcard. They can honestly take QB, DE, RB, or trade down and they'll dictate the draft. I just don't believe a word they say that it's Darnold or nothing at QB.

Agreed, but again. After dealing with headcases like Suh, Ajayi, and Landry, you think the Dolphins are gonna wanna deal with Mayfield? Doubt it. Yes, Barkley is obviously better than Hyde/Johnson but the talent level drops off DRASTICALLY at DE after Chubb. They can always get a RB like Penny in the 2nd round, and I'd MUCH rather have Darnold, Chubb, and Penny if you ask me. I can also see them taking Minkah before Barkley too Right?

So you can see him falling to 11 but not falling one more spot? lol. I agree Tannehill appears to be done but losing Suh is gonna hurt this defense. Just my thought.

With no trades what other team between the Broncos and Bills need a QB? Obviously the Broncos but I don't see them taking Mayfield that early. Dolphins, after dealing with Landry and Suh, i can't imagine them taking a QB like Mayfield at 11. Why can't you see Barkley falling that far if QB falls 1, 2, and 3? Browns picked up Carlos Hyde and they have Duke Johnson. I think that's a pretty great duo and pairing Chubb with Garrett will give QB's fits. Broncos COULD take RB but they need help on the line far more than they do RB IMO

Obviously trades will happen but it's almost impossible to predict. Here's my mock with no trades: 1. Browns - QB/Sam Darnold 2. Giants - QB/Josh Rosen 3. Jets - QB/Josh Allen 4. Browns - DE/Bradley Chubb 5. Broncos - OL/Quenton Nelson 6. Colts - RB/Saquon Barkley 7. Bucs - CB/Minkah Fitzpatrick 8. Bears - LB/Tremaine Edmunds 9. Niners - LB/Roquan Smith 10. Raiders - CB/Denzel Ward 11. Fins - DT/Da'Ron Payne 12. Bills - QB/Baker Mayfield 13. Redskins - LB/Leighton Vander Esch 14. Packers - WR/Calvin Ridley 15. Cardinals - QB/Lamar Jackson 16. Ravens - OL/Will Hernandez 17. Chargers - LB/Rashaan Evans 18. Seahawks - CB/Josh Jackson 19. Cowboys - WR/Courtland Sutton 20. Lions - RB/Derrius Guice 21. Bengals - DL/Vita Vea 22. Bills - WR/D.J. Chark 23. Rams - S/Derwin James 24. Panthers - DL/Maurice Hurst 25. Titans - WR/Christian Kirk 26. Falcons - WR/Deon Cain 27. Saints - QB/Mason Rudolph 28. Steelers - S/Justin Reid 29. Jaguars - OL/Billy Price 30. Vikings - LB/Carlton Davis 31. Patriots - OL/Orlando Brown 32. Eagles - RB/Ronald Jones

Browns wouldn't. I guarantee you that

I don't see Allen falling that far back, especially with the offseason he's having.

LMAO. Meant Giants.

How about we stop talking about "next year's QBs" and just get one this year?

Giants have so many holes to fill they'd be wise to pick up the extra draft picks; and judging by the way Mara's been talking about OBJ, there's no guarantee that he'll be re-signed. DE, LB, RB, OT, OG, WR, CB are all needs they need to fill before they even think about taking a QB IMO. They've lost so many pieces this offseason. JPP, DRC, Justin Pugh, were all key pieces. I think this deal gets done on draft day.

Why? I don't understand this mentality. What good is staying put if we don't get the player that will move us forward? Makes no sense to me. Quality over quantity

Thanks Nostradamus

Me, reading 90% of the posts on here...

Her name is Rachel Bush. Respect it!

So, is our process better than the 76ers?

EJ Manuel never made it to the 2nd round either so whats your point? LOL

Bills players officially have some of the hottest wifes in the NFL

BRILLIANT signing IMO.