Billsfan1972

Again watch every QB in this league and you'll see plenty of bad passes. However Allen did not play well, but it was probably a B. The Bills Offense had the ball twice in the second Half (a terrible int and a TD drive). That was it. The Defense made Tannehill look like a HoF QB. Everything seemed off and it also seems that Allen is trying too hard to stay in the pocket and so few runs. How come Ryan (Tannehill or Fitz) now seem more dangerous running then Allen? Bad drops, some passes just a little off and may also have been some bad reads. However he also made some incredible throws too. Yep they missed Brown. BTW love a bad game where he throws for 265 yards & 2 tds.....

The defense was just atrocious. The Bills had the ball 2 times the second half (minus the last 1:59).... An Int & a TD, followed by a fumble on the kickoff. Bad game all around.

I dislike these threads & certainly eventually expected. The Bills haven't had a top 10 offense since 2009 (ranked 9). The last 20 years they have averaged 23rd. Finally an Offense to be excited about & then comes the "Old School" thread. Give me the K-Gun and a mediocre defense anyday over a top 5 defense and bottom 10 Offense year after year..... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/index.htm

Again missing the point. Who is 100% certain that he couldn't have been better last season. We're all on the same team, but you guys are blind in your loyalty to McD and seem to think he did everything right on a team at the very bottom of the league in offense in his first three years..... Pot calling kettle. I am the one saying I've been very happy with McD this year, and you continue to say McD was beyond reproach years 1-3 wrt offense and continue to argue that he got the most out of Allen years 1-2, which I disagree with. I also insist they could have done a better job talent wise that side of the ball. How much worse could the Offense have been.

And you guys just refuse to acknowledge, that the coaching staff to some extent may have held him back. That's what I say and you continue to look at the 25-23 record in the same vain as Bill Belichek's superbowl wins. 30, 29 & 24th Ranked Offense stinks!!!!!! And that too you refuse to acknowledge.

And here is Allen's 4th Quarter comebacks (leads the NFL). If he can do it in the 4th I wanted to see more in quarters 1-3 and that is my point, that we did not see enough opportunity and that was on coaching & McD. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=AlleJo02

Again no one knows how differently things may have played out. I say I saw this in Allen all the time and posted countless times, especially with those who wanted the Bills to give up on Allen, that the issue was the Offense and that they just needed to let him go out and play and throw "caution to the wind" proverbially (not saying throw it 50 times, just more and in better situations). We all know & point out to Allen's fourth quarter comebacks and how many games have been won when Allen needed to produce. My point was this happened in the 4th, because more often then not they were conservative the first 3 quarters. How we continue to debate facts that aren't debateable i.e. Offensive ranking, passing yards, attempts & points scored by the offense astounds me. Yes we can debate we saw different things i.e. were receivers open, right reads, dropped balls, difficult catches, bad passes vs. good..... but the actual #'s are there and the Bills offense was terrible & I blamed it more on the coaching & playcalling then Allen. Sorry 4 games into 2020 & I am right. Again would 2019 Allen have played at the level of 2020 Allen..... No, but I certainly think his #'s could have been much better.

As opposed to many of you I do not watch tape (though will replay when necessary (as I do tape the games). I do not do deep dives into the draft or coaches, but will read up on them. I watch the game with two eyes & see the box score. This team under McD did not (or would not) throw for 300 yards in 3 years..... Every team did that every year (except the Bills who somehow managed to do it for 3 years, and next closes may have been a 19 game streak). The Bills Offense ranked 29, 30 & 24 the past 3 seasons. Keep repeating the mantra salary cap hell, low payroll, the process, making due with what you have & whatever else you want, but every outsider looking in would have the exact same opinion as me, however you guys are way smarter then everyone else. Bottom line is I have admitted McD is growing on me, I'm thrilled about the offense and excited this year. My point is I think they did hold Allen back more then necessary the first two years. Again look at Justin Herbert and how quickly he has adapted right out of the gate.

Actually he wanted to play field position. We saw that way too often. He had a tight reign on Allen & the offense. He seldom seemed to go for the jugualr. The team barely tried to score above 20 points. Anyone who didn't see that wasn't watching. I'll never forget the Bills getting the ball from the Steelers with 2 monutes left 'til halftime and their only goal was to get a first down & run out the clock. WHen they converted that third down, they celebrated as if they had scored a TD. It was pathetic & highlighted the coaching philosophy in 2019, play between the 20's, mistakes, milk the the clock and we'll hope the defense stops them.

No I did not give coaching & McD a pass like many of you did. A big difference.

No I state opinions and they have played out. Call it surface level all you want , however as stated I pretty much supported Allen from day one and said let's see the Bills be more agressive on offense and see if he flourishes or not. You guys are all so excited about a 25-23 record and give all the credit to McD, when the prior 3 years they were 24-24 with what you called terrible coaching. You see what you want to see & I see what I want to see, however I saw this version of Allen well before this season & was pissed the staff I think held him back. the Offense was ranked 30, 29 & 24 the first 3 McD seasons, and you seem pretty alright with that. I wasn't.......

Obviously I saw different. You & PFF saw the same thing. I saw dropped balls, receivers seldom making a contested or difficult catch, undersized receivers, bad play calling putting Allen in difficult situations..... Read my 100+ posts thinking Allen would flourish with good coaching & playcalling. Yep through four weeks in 2020, I am RIGHT!!!!!!

I saw this coming with Allen & read my 100's of posts saying so. Thus I guess I was right.....🤣 And much of Allen's improvement to me is better playcalling, sure hands, Diggs and a commitment to trust Allen & score points. The Pittsburgh game juxtaposes the difference between 2019 & 2020. And yes the last draft, Allen Singleterry & Knox..... And you can't grasp that my opinion (yes just an opinion) is that Allen was almost there last year and hamstrung by the playcalling and lack of confidence in him.

Good you drank the Koolaid...... Good for you..... Please name me other coaches taking over .500 clubs, who then explained to the fan base that theyt were going to regress from there? Maybe Mike McCarthy went to Dallas and sold Jerry Jones on that? The Bills according to many were in utter disarray under Rex Ryan, however they were a .500 team. Sorry that some "stoopid" fans expect the new coach to come in and improve a team record. ANd yes the Bills have made the playoffs twice, but their play on the field particularly the offensive side was lousy 2017-19.

Yep I have been incredibly critical of the McD's defense first & foremost obsession since hired. I knew very little about him and actions speak louder then words. They completely dismantled the offense as soon as he arrived (actually very early in training camp) and made year one very little attempt to address it. Zay Jones was drafted year 1 & a bust by all accounts Year two they draft Allen & McD's offensive acumen decides Peterman is his man to start the year. Here are the drafts & while good on defense, woefully negligent & not good to start on Offense. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm So please tell me what I have said that is factually incorrect and anything more then one person's opinion about the team he follows, watches every game and until this year has been pretty much .500 with an offense under McD that was 30th, 29th & 24th ranked? And again, the team was 24-24 the three years prior to McD & 25-23 in his three years. Yes I know cap hell & other comments to be posted...... I just look at the record.

BTW Bills have 6 drops this year & near the top (probably 5 vs. the Raiders) Here's an interesting table.... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/advanced.htm Yes at the top in terms of drops & drop %, take a look at other stats like on target & bad throws and as bad as people purport Josh Allen to be (and he was not great), he was not nearly as terrible as many purported him to be. In 2018 Yes Buffalo was the worst (and Allen was injured). He has a lot of very good guests (not all sports related) and enjoy many of his other stations & podcasts. If you love movies, The Rewatchables is outstanding, especially when they do some trashy movies. Their GOT, Succession & Billions TV show recaps too were very good. Not all Bills all the time, which is probably why I don't care who the Bills draft, just that they perform to their draft pick (& hopefully much better).

He however did not practise what he preached. That Pittsburgh game (yes a win) embodied everything I loathed about the Bills offensive philosophy. Only the fact they were playing maybe the worst QB in the league saved them.

Someone get's it. It was very good, self-deprecating and owned up to being wrong.

Don't forget the Houston blow to Josh Allen's head in overtime, followed by Houston converting a third & 18...... There were a lot of plays, but then again the Bills did go into their famous post Halftime shell....

You guys are merciless. Does anyone not singing the platitudes of the Bills 24/7 do anything right? Sorry The Ringer is outstanding and this was a good article.

And that the Bills receivers continually dropped balls and never seemed to make a "difficult" catch..... Oh and an offensive philosophy predicated keep the opponent under 20, limit mistakes, time of possession and field position.

Sarcasm & Irony is a difficult concept to comprehend?

Was about to post too. Great article (lead story) and basically calls him a Unicorn and explains how once you've made your bed (opinion) you lie in it. As said didn't know Allen from Adam, but as the 7th pick I needed to believe in him as a Bills fan. That is why I wanted him rushed and to learn as mauch as quick as possible.

So McD told the Pegula's when hired that he will build a #1 defense, draft a project QB @ #7 year 2, bring him along really slow and turn the 24-24 record we had in 2014-16 to 25-23 with one of the worst offenses in the NFL, but come 2020 a Pandemic will hit the world & that QB we selected and babied for 2 years will be an MVP candidate and the Offense will be one of the most potent in the NFL. Is that what believe happened?

Again when McD is agressive & wins I will applaud him. Conservative McD, not so much.