Yes, I said the economy was picking up steam in 2012Q4, and the payroll tax increase combined with higher gas prices would slow it down, as it is doing. I said that oil and gas prices were moving up at that time because traders also saw this, and were making their bets. When we were arguing about the gas price article you posted, I concluded with the quote I re-posted, which was dead on.Regarding refinery rates, I said refineries have closed, and that was one of the issues behind higher gas prices. I believe lybob posted a link to this as well. So your misrepresentation of what i said negates everything you've ever said...