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Only if she blows bubbles in it while you're drinking... I'm not one who would encourage it if I were there, but I sure as ***** would sit and watch. And the people encouraging it, are the same people doing it. Most people think it's idiotic.

This guy wanted 5 minutes of fame, and he got it... whether or not he'll remember it is another thing. Is it sad that people do this stuff? Yeah... but it's also their choice. I don;t feel sorry for this guy at all... I've been to over 200 Bills games and tailgated going back to when I was a wee lad... As I grew up I started to tailgate with buddies and we did some dumb stuff drinking, but NEVER is my life was I possessed to do something as stupid as these people do. It's their choice to not think about the consequences, and act... Most of them only hurt themselves, thankfully, but at the end of the day it's their choice! When you look at the prospect of jumping off a raised lot down 10 feet and over a concrete driveway onto a wooden table expecting to break it, you can't possibly be thinking "This won't hurt." Even if you land that thing properly it's going to hurt and there is a high probability of injury. So the fact that it went badly, which any person with a brain could've predicted, and he was MORE hurt than even he expected... i mean why am I supposed to feel sorry for the guy? Play stupid games win stupid prizes.... this moron played the table breaking game and won medical bills and notoriety for being a bozo... good for him... I thought the one where the guy almost blew his own face off was better... This is cringe worthy but the other one was funnier IMO. Either way I've watched both like 20 times lol

No way you'd go through 10 tables... Prove it... ?

The NFL is a pendulum, it will swing back the other way... as more of these "Offensive Gurus" like Crazy Eyes Gase and Fast Freddie Kitchens bust out of the league, teams will be more willing to go back to Defensive guys who can stop the offensive minded HCs, and hope the coordinators they pick will make the teams competitive on both sides of the ball. Much like what we're building. I see what you're saying about the trend, but It will swing back to where teams realize not everyone can be the Chiefs or Rams, so maybe be the Bills on D to stop those teams and get a good OC so you can do both.... stop the high powered offenses and score.

Naw the momentum to get through that many would mean the guy would need to be going like 100MPH... unrealistic to get to that speed unless he jumps from a plane or Helicopter, and these morons are too stupid to have jobs that they can afford to do either... keep it simple.

If this D stays this good all year, I think there is a VERY high likelihood we lose Frazier to a HC gig. I know the D is McDermott's model, but Frazier is the one who is hands on working with these guys and calling plays... this D is amazing, and it's thanks largely to both McDermott and Frazier in their approach and teaching. This isn't a D full of stars, but it's a D full of great players who are smart and very we well prepared, playing together in a fantastic system.

I'm still waiting for the Bills fan who erects a ramp and tries to jump off a ramp on a bike or some kind and bail from the bike only to land on a table and smash it.... That's the dream...

Lol as I read this thread title all I think is "The 1 thing we need to do is win out, that's the only way to say 100% we get in"... We're in the driver's seat for the wild card, just keep winning and you stay there, PERIOD.

Oh dear god I hope Bills Mafia don't discover hand grenades....

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!

Here is hoping he signs with his brother as OC of the Raiders... Ryan Bros. 2.0!!!!

Til he has an itchy nose...

Hamstrings are tricky, if you don't take care of them properly post injury you can aggravate it really easily and be out longer. They're smart to be cautious, you don't want it to become a lingering or chronic injury for a kid so young.

Yeah you could be right, I thought he was a 7th for Philly but honestly don't know for sure. Either way this was an odd move, I expected them to cut Ike Boettger since they have plenty of interior linemen.

And they cut Connor McDermott, so come Sunday they will likely only have 2 healthy OTs in Ford and Dawkins... Bates can swing out to OT and inside, but he's a late round rookie, so there;s a lot of risk having him be your only OT backup on the roster.

And in NY, and fully legal in Colorado, California, and Washington State... like I said its going to come off the list, and the only times players will get in trouble for it is if they are arrested for possession in a state where it is still illegal. It'd be the same as if they were arrested for possession of a fire arm etc.... the League will be forced to take action in those instances because of player code of conduct, and the negative light it puts the league in. But I would bet they stop testing for it and no longer have an official stance.

Not my job to write man, but yes I am betting it's no longer on the banned substance list, but in the case of places where it is illegal, players will be held to the law of the land, but in places where it is not illegal, there will be no punishment from the league. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just stopped testing for it all together.

I will bet you any sum of money that the drug policy changes SIGNIFICANTLY with respect to Weed in the next CBA. I would even venture to say it's no longer a "banned substance" in states that it's legal.

Ugh the old semantics argument... the refuge of people grasping at straws... https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ambigamy/201404/psychological-crutches-ten-myths-and-three-tips Psychological Crutches: Ten Myths and Three Tips The healthy quest for "optimal illusion" Posted Apr 17, 2014 SHARE TWEET EMAIL MORE This post is in response to Five Steps to Optimal Illusion by Jeremy E Sherman Myth 1. Psychological crutches are bad: We accuse people of using psychological crutches, as though they’re always bad. That’s odd when you think about it, since we think of crutches as good in medicine to, for example, support for a weak knee, a sore hip, or a healing leg, as scaffolding when the structure is weak so patients can get on with their lives. Of course, one can become over-dependent upon a physical crutch. Spending too long on a crutch can distort your posture too. Still, crutches have they’re place in medicine and in psychology too. What is a psychological crutch? Here I’ll define it in parallel to a physical crutch as anything you rely on through vulnerability. What you rely on could be chemical, emotional, intellectual, even physical, for example shopping or aerobic exercise when you’re going through a psychologically painful breakup. And the vulnerability could be of any kind too, a breakup, a lost job, disappointed goals, aging, disease, even a sore hip. A psychological crutch is whatever gets you through the night or nights (since vulnerabilities can last a while), the dark night of the soul, which can even be a terminal vulnerability, for example when you’ve been diagnosed with a terminal illness. We have other names for crutches. When people distract themselves from painful vulnerabilities, we say they’re “in denial.” More technically, we speak of “dissociation,” disconnecting from thoughts and feelings, typically by means of distraction. Mild dissociation is seen as a way to cope with mild discomfort, daydreaming when bored, or watching a movie when bummed. But mostly psychologists think of dissociation as maladaptive, as in the many dissociative disorders psychiatrists diagnose. Recently social scientists have noted the benefits of daydreaming, getting away from work, and mindfulness practice, all of which are forms of dissociation, distracting ourselves from our travails when we’re in too deep for our own good. It’s time to distinguish between good and bad crutches or dissociations, or we could say between dissociative orders and disorders. Myth 2. Psychological crutches are rare: When my mother, a non-smoker in her mid-fifties, was diagnosed with lung cancer metastasized to the brain, in the shock of the first few days she moved very quickly toward the consolations of philosophy and spirituality, an almost manic leap toward elation. A somewhat famous friend, famous too for his tendency to bend the truth himself, took me aside and diagnosed her with an authoritative and somewhat disdainful air as being “in denial.” We do that when disdaining a trait in others, which may be some of the fun of identifying other people’s faults. In catty moments, distracted by what’s wrong with others we can forget our own faults. Indeed such disdain can serve as its own kind of crutch, in his case, temporary dissociation from awareness of our own crutches. Truth is, psychological crutches, as I’ve defined them aren’t a rare pathology found in weaker souls. We all use them and the question is not whether, but when and how to use them. Elsewhere I’ve called this the quest for “optimal illusion” kidding yourself where it helps, rather than hurts. Myth 3. Psychological crutches aren’t natural. We talk of people using drugs as a crutch. In the past 50 years scientists have discovered that we all have receptors for many of the mind-altering drugs, and internal equivalents for them too, for example endorphin, the body’s natural equivalent to morphine. A runner’s high, or the little tingle we feel after eating spicy food is really the equivalent of a minor morphine buzz. Apparently, we’re all equipped with evolved natural pain-killers—psychological crutches like endorphin to get us through. These endogenous drugs aren’t the only example, but as exceptions they disprove the rule. Apparently all crutches aren’t unnatural. article continues after advertisement Myth 4. Psychological crutches are all like drugs, and shopping, things you get from outside yourself: Many crutches are our mind’s inventions, fantasies, for example about how we’re destined to be popular, right, and successful, distractions for dealing with the disappointments we experience, the bad news of daily life. Myth 5. Psychological crutches are only healthy when used temporarily: In looking for ways to tell good crutches from bad ones, we might think good ones are used sparingly and temporarily like physical crutches. But then physical crutches aren’t all temporary. For example, a quadriplegic’s wheelchair is forever. Everything’s temporary including our lives but some crutches last that long. Religions can be a crutch, and not necessarily a bad one. Many have coped ‘til death with the stresses of life by distracting themselves with visions of the afterlife. Is it a good thing? You can’t tell simply by how long they last. Indeed one could argue is that a good crutch is one you can rely on for a long time. Myth 6. Using psychological crutches is cheating: If crutches are sometimes natural, and if all of us use them, they aren’t inherently cheating unless you claim we all cheat. We’re ambivalent about psychological crutches, but simplify by talking about the ones we like in positive terms. For example we admire optimistic people, people who during bad times can distract themselves with hopeful if somewhat unrealistic visions of a better tomorrow. We don’t bellow at people on crutches, “Hey cheater, quit pretending! You don’t walk that good. Get real!” And we don’t bellow that at optimists ether. We tolerate each other’s crutches and often even admire them. article continues after advertisement Myth 7. Any time you ignore things you’re in denial or using a crutch: Using a crutch, being in denial, or dissociating all make ignorance seem like an active process. To understand why ignoring isn’t always an active process, just think of all the things you’re not actively ignoring and yet aren’t aware of. We can’t pay attention to everything. We can’t even pay attention to every choice about what to attend to and ignore. The mind is a pinhole in a flood. Only a little gets through. We pay attention to what we intuit to be significant, sometimes significant reality checks and sometimes significant distractions to deal with the pain of reality checks. Myth 8. Psychological crutches always reduce your integrity: A crutch is often necessary to maintaining integrity, a constant commitment to a plan or goal. Psychological crutches are how we keep moving over psychologically bumpy terrain. Like a crutch for a bad leg, a psychological crutch, whether it’s a rationalization or a shopping spree is a way to lighten the load of bad news, as you walk through life’s vicissitudes, left, right, left, right, good news; bad news, good news, bad news. And as with coin tosses sometimes the good news “heads,” and bad news “tails” don’t come with reliable alternating regularity. Sometimes you’ll get a string of bad news for no reason but the random draw. Crutches are a buffer. They enable you to keep breathing when the news is bad enough that otherwise you’d have the wind knocked out of you. Psychological crutches are like clutches, a way to spin your wheels while you think about how to respond, perhaps downshifting your expectations, but often plowing ahead with integrity and consistency. Crutches can reduce integrity too, of course. Rationalize anything long enough so you can maintain integrity about it (“nope, I meant to do that. I stand by my action.”), and you’ll increase your general self-gullibility. Like any habit, rationalization gets easier with practice. The trick isn’t to stop rationalizing but to rationalize where it helps rather than hurts. This is the art of optimal illusion, kidding yourself right, not wrong. article continues after advertisement Myth 9. There’s an easy way to tell good from bad crutches: We mostly rely on intuition when accusing someone of being in denial, or using a psychological crutch. If you think someone should pay attention to what you are, your gut criticism is that they’re ignoring what’s important, distracted by what isn’t important. They say “It’s just not as interesting to me as it is to you,” and our intuitions say “They’re just in denial.” Likewise our guts declare people ignorant, which at core means ignoring what we think they should attend to. Our assessments of what to attend to and ignore are inherently subjective, the products of our diverse temperaments, experiences, statuses, histories, environment, and cultures. When we accuse people of being in denial or using a crutch and they push back, we can easily find rationales that justify our gut sense that the accusation applies. We often reach for reasonable-sounding rules. For example “We should all attend to the suffering of others, and you’re not, that’s why I say you’re in denial.” A rule like that sounds reasonable until you remember that no one attends to the suffering of all others. Apparently there’s no litmus test that if you ignore the suffering of another, you're in bad denial. We might also justify based on social norms, for example that drugs are crutches. But again, we’re all on drugs, if not the wine we drink at night, the endorphins we swim in after a workout or a jalapeno, and anyway there are so many ways to dissociate, so many ways to distract ourselves. No one has yet come up with a good simple rule for what constitutes a healthy and unhealthy distraction. Some would say meditation is always a good distraction and TV is a bad one, but it’s not hard to come up with examples whereby the opposite is true, the delusional spiritualist who believes meditation solves everything; the hardworking and productive aid worker, who recharges efficiently with an hour of TV. I got the ideas for this article while sitting in the dentist’s chair on nitrous, a drug that calms and soothes my body while leaving my mind alert. Dissociating from discomfort long enough to step back from my life and get philosophical like that is a crutch I enjoy, a side benefit of good dental hygiene. I’m not alone in that. William James, often cited as the founder of psychology was a fan too. Some would say since it’s a drug it’s a crutch, and a bad one. I’d say it’s a crutch, but a good one. article continues after advertisement Myth 10. There’s no way to tell good from bad crutches: Still, there is something to our intuitions about good and bad crutches, not an objective rule by which we would all agree about what’s a good and bad crutch but still a standard by which we all make our subjective assessments. We depend on crutches, at least temporarily. We do what’s necessary to maintain access to them and would miss them if we lost access to them, the way the wheelchair-bound miss their wheelchair when it’s in the shop. This suggests three rules to apply, albeit subjectively: 1. It’s bad if it’s unsustainable: We all intuit that a crutch is bad if maintaining access to it is unsustainable. We intuit for example that a drug is a crutch if a person can’t do without it and that someday the user will have to, for example, going cold turkey off morphine. That’s a reasonable intuition. Don’t get hooked on crutches you can’t maintain access too. Or at least don’t get so dependent that when it’s gone, you’re ruined. 2. It’s bad if it bends you off your better path: We also intuit that a crutch is bad if grows people in the wrong direction, drug addicts toward crime, religion devotees toward delusional thinking about practical matters, shopaholics toward poverty and debt, whatever you look at a person relying upon and say “hmmm… this won’t end well.” 3. It’s good if it inspires effort, not if it stands in for it: Boy meets girl, boy falls in love with girl, and she with him, thinking he can do no wrong. So he starts doing lots of wrong, using her devotion as a bad crutch, a reason he doesn’t have to try anymore to make it in the real world. Instead he melts joblessly into her couch, basking in her support, and she doesn’t complain. And you think “That’s bad.” Boy meets girl, boy falls in love with girl and she with him, which inspires confidence in him that he then parlays into better work in the world. And you think “that’s good.” We intuit that good crutches are a complement to good work, not a substitute for it. Of course we disagree about what meets these three intuitive standards. The debate that follows from our disagreements is healthy and useful. But it’s a debate over what to use as a crutch, not whether to use a crutch, which we all do. After all, we all have those vulnerabilities, the dark nights and the need for whatever gets us through them.

Yup, that must be it ?

Sorry, I'm not getting sucked into a political debate with some dude on a football message board. Have a nice day.

Well as a conservative I find this highly offensive ... Funny how you are criticizing "conservatives" for having a "refusal to empathize with those who are different" and yet you yourself go on to take shots at "conservatives" with blanket statements like they're over privileged or that they're superior... While sounding arrogant and "superior" yourself. This isn't a "Liberal vs Conservative" debate man, but FTR, liberals have no problem judging, demeaning, and belittling conservatives either... But back to the topic at hand.... Depression, anxiety, stress, mental illness, all sorts of issues are helped by medical usage of numerous drugs. Those drugs are NOT a "Crutch" they are aids to help people be able to function. The hard part about pot being argued as medicinal when these guys are doing it on their own is that there is no discussion with a Doctor to figure out dosage and regiment. There is such a thing as too much, and there is dependency that can come from over medicating, so it's a slippery slope. But the statement that people who need drugs to be even keel is flat out wrong and ignorant. I sincerely hope people who think that don't need to face situations where they themselves or their loved ones need medication, because watching people deal with anxiety, depression, and mental illness is very difficult. And if your stance on it is "they're just weak"... well then It's safe to say your loved one won't have the support system they need to get better.

Immensely critical thing to say people who take prescription drugs are using it as a crutch. Not a subscriber to psychopharmacology?

I have stories brother, lemme tell ya... and my comment about "she'll take your address" was learned, it's not a joke... I had a girl show up to my house in college walk in, look at me and my buddies playing beer pong and say "I'm gonna just shower quick." I didn't invite her over... it was crazy *****... then she showered for no reason, and kept calling me... I finally walked in and she wanted me to get in with here... but I sense this was going to be bad if I indulged whatever that was. So I refused and she demanded I get her a towel... I was like "uhhhh no, I neither invited you over, nor did I tell you to shower." She stormed out of my house with clothing sticking to her like she fell in a pool lol... Oh.. yeah... she was a married 30 year old mother of 3 I knew from bar tending at a restaurant... I was 21... we had our fun one night after a shift, and to this day I don't know how she got my address. I had my boss fire her after that. Fun fact, I saw her last week as a security guard at the building I now work in... I snapped pics and sent them to my buddies they didn't believe me until they saw the pictures LOL

No story here, this is like saying some players partake in the occasional beer after a game... Weed is so prevalent, it's a joke that more states haven't legalized and taxed rather than keeping it illegal.