GunnerBill
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I only noticed this morning that I had omitted Wide Receiver from my list of options.... and I am guessing that is what a lot of the votes for "other" are. I think the consensus is that our 3 biggest holes are WR, S and OT.
The way I see it this is a strong safety draft (maybe 3 first rounders? and good depth beyond that) and a strong receiver draft (two potential top 10 guys and plenty of good prospects through rounds 2-4). It is a terrible OT draft in my opinion. There are only 4/5 that I consider worth drafting in the first 3 rounds who would even have a chance of competing to start their rookie year. The rest are all day 3 developmental picks. Because of the shortage I expect those that I think are value in the 2nd to go in the 1st and those that I think are value in the 3rd to go in the 2nd. To me your choices if you decide not to take a tackle in FA are:
1. Reach for need in the 1st or 2nd round;
2. Take a developmental guy and put all your eggs in the CK @ LT and CG @ RT basket.
Neither of the above feel like great options to me. It isn't a brilliant FA crop either to be honest.... Wagner will probably get good money, I'm guessing Whitworth if he wants to carry on playing will get a big pay day as well (PFF's 2nd ranked tackle in 2016 at the age of 35.... quite incredible) the two slightly cheaper targets for the Bills might be Riley Rieff or Mike Remmers.
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The whole thing is going to be messy, so what's the problem with doing a Goff on the kid. If TT is cut, this is a full-on expansion team type restart rebuild, so all bets are off.
Yep. If we are cutting Tyrod and taking Mahomes as the future then my plan would be sign a McCown like vet and start him the first 6 or 8 games but basically give Mahomes all the practice reps. You'd be 1-7 or something after that but so what?
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I think---
#1 We need to resign Gilmore, Gilly, Z Brown, Lorax and restructure Tyrod.
#2 WR there are some good ones avail and Alshon, D Jackson, Pryor would look like next to Sammy.
#3 QB an experienced Vet like McCown. Let the rookie and Cardale battle it out for the #3 spot.
Draft a Safety in the 1st, especially if Malik Hooker drops to #10, OT in the 2nd, QB in the 3rd. If Watson drops to #10, take him and move safety to rd #2 and OT in the 3rd.
With solid coaching this team could go 10-6 or better.
Which Offensive Tackle do you think will be there in the 2nd who is value at that pick?
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Its not a bad take. The question is, if you take Mahomes in the 2nd, are you gonna start him year 1 or let him learn from the pine while learning to not let that back leg move like a wacky waving inflatable arm flaling tube man?
My take, for what it's worth, is that Mahomes starting "off the bus" would be messy. The wacky waving back leg with a mind of its own is a big part of the reason for that.
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That, and he's bloody good.
I will never understand why folks want really good players to leave.
Because a lot of people don't think he is good because they ignore the evidence infront of them.
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As far as UFAs, other than Jeffery, there's Kenny Britt, Kenny Stills, Pierre Garçon, DeSean Jackson, Michael Floyd, the ageless Anquan Boldin, the aging Vincent Jackson, Terrell Pryor, Brandon LaFell, Ted Ginn Jr, Jeremy Kerley, Brian Quick, Terrance Williams and Cordarelle Patterson. This list isn't as bad as I thought with a few of them likely upgrades over Bob Woods and some others arguably similar.
I think the Bills will be looking a the less "big" names on that list. Williams would be of interest to me but I'm not sure if he has the short space quickness and agility to play the slot and if the Bills are looking at a #2 in the draft (Mike Williams or Corey Davis) then maybe the slot is where they focus in FA.
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Pete Carroll
Oh of course. They never coached together though did they?
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He was still their best Quarterback.
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Would the chart qualify as a heat map?
Yes and the heat map says don't mess with Rex.
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Did not see that coming. What is the Quinn - Sark link?
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It comes down to talent evaluation. Just scatter gun picking QBs is a bad idea. Identify talent and then don't be scared to pull the trigger.
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For the Jets a total rebuild makes total sense. I have started this evening to begin to do my prep for my pre-FA mock draft. And when you look at the Jets roster even in the spots they are talented they are old (with the exception of the D line which underperformed in 2016). That is a place that really should be thinking "tear down." They do allegedly love Trubisky though so I can see them pulling the trigger this year if he makes it to #6.
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General Manager
Cute answer. We have dozens of Whaley threads. Let's try and keep this on topic.
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I'm a bit gun-shy on him. He just seems so undisciplined: jumps early too often, tends to clutch and grab against quicker guys, technique breaks down, etc. The size and athleticism are there, but I would have to get myself comfortable that he's going to be dedicated to his craft as a pro...not exactly a dominant trait for those 'bama players as of late (with apologies to Bill in NYC)
Yea I think his technique has a long way to go..... I just think some team will fall in love with the physical traits and reach for him in the 1st given that there are teams out there looking for tackle help and this is a bad tackle class.
I said the other week at the moment I have 0 first round graded tackles.
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I think I might look at Cam Robinson at that spot...might
Yea I have a 2nd on Cam and would be fine taking him there. I don't think he would be the BPA and I also don't think he will be on the board. I still expect him to go in the back half of the 1st to a team reaching for offensive line help.
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Rd 2 - RT
Not sure who will be there worth taking at that spot.
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Given what we know about the Bills most obvious needs, their cap situation and the strengths and weaknesses of the 2017 draft class - where should the Bills focus their attention in terms of outside free agents (ie. not re-signing their own)?
I'll get things started.... it's Offensive Tackle for me. I've started work on this offensive tackle class and I'm struggling to find 5 that I think are day 1 or 2 picks. Jordan Mills is a FA, Henderson is a huge question mark, Kouandjio LT and Glenn RT is an option but is mainly untested and in any event the Bills need some sort of depth there.
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Yep, inactive for Jets game.
After a nice preseason he'd been an apparition for most of the season anyway.
Yep. Had a good pre-season and a reasonable first 5 weeks and then really faded into nothingness. Either his rookie wall came extremely early or he just isn't very good. I hadn't really looked into him at all in my evaluations last year but he was advertised as someone with some way to go against the run but with the potential to be a good interior pass rusher. He got very little push on passing snaps most of the year - I thought his best game was in LA and he flashed against the Cardinals early on too. After that he was a non factor.
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That was a huge factor but you still gotta' make some plays and stops.
They dropped some interceptions.
Matty Yikes got scurd in the moment but the D was just putrid.
The Falcons were so shell-shocked it was absurd......then the Pats kick off after tying the game and the returner inexplicably tries to bring it out and gets brought down around the 10 yard line effectively ends any chance of getting a cheap last second field goal. Buck and Aikman were so shell shocked they didn't say anything about that bonehead play either.
The D did its job a long stretch of the way. If the O had ever adjusted to an O that was trying to see out a Superbowl the Falcons win comfortably.
Yes the D broke down in the end and couldn't make plays but my god a pop warner coach could have managed that 4th Quarter better than Quinn and Shanahan.
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Indeed. The Falcons D went MIA. Could not stop a nosebleed.
Too many plays. Give Brady that many plays and eventually he will break you down.
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Yep. Bringing Jairus Byrd back on a reasonably cheap deal is not a bad idea.
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And the thing is after the sack there was still a 53 yarder available to them. They should have got back in the huddle said "okay... no holding" and just run a a dive up the gut. It might have got them a yard or two but would have taken another 30 seconds and allowed them to try the field goal.Shanahan's and by extension Quinn's game management skills are highly suspect for not running threw straight times after Julio's catch that gave them 1st and ten from the NE 22 when a FG essentially wraps the SB win up for ATL. I will never understand what they were thinking.
Then after the holding call I was screaming "draw play" at my tv.... run the draw there and worst case you take 40 seconds off the clock before you punt. Best case scenario you might get 7 or 8 yards back and leave Bryant a long FG attempt.
That they threw three times on 2nd down and then on both runnings of 3rd down was inexcusable game management.
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You don't smash a phone over deflated footballs. There was more going on that he was covering up. That said, as juiced as I believe Brady is, juicing doesn't make you more accurate or cool under pressure.
Manning was juiced up to the eyeballs by the end and couldn't fling the thing more than 5 yards.
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I'm hearing and reading this a lot this morning, but I don't agree. Huge comebacks are weird and more than a little boring. One team dominates for an entire half, BORING, then the other team dominates the 2nd half -with timely breaks. For me, Bills @ San Fran 1991 was the greatest game ever. Back and forth all game long, very few penalties and NO PUNTS! Decided by the team with the ball last.
I didn't think it was as good as the NE - SEA Superbowl. A zillion times better than last year's borefest though
What 1 position should the Bills focus on in FA?
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But they are cumulative. So cutting him after 2018 would have a dead cap of those figures added together..... because they are the remnants of the option bonus which is fully guaranteed the moment we take it up.