GunnerBill
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Never thought he was good coming out tbh. Some people thought he was underrated because of off the field I thought he was overrated because of noteriety. 4th rounder on my board.
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Last years offense was built around the notion that the defense would be good enough to protect the lead. The offensive playbook wasnt designed to be explosive. It was all about ball control, not throwing for three hundred yards. Given that, Tyrod did what the coaches asked of him and more. The simple fact is, our defense didnt do what it was supposed to do and the offense was ill equiped to respond. That isnt a Tyrod problem, it was coaching. This is why Rex was let go.
Not quite accurate. Rex's offense was supposed to be big play... it was not a dink and dunk offense it wae chunk plays in the run and pass game. Go check Billick's "Toxic differential".
I think it was a limited offensive passing scheme but not limited in down the field plays. Limited in those intermediate routes. I am not sure Tyrod did do all that was asked "and more." He was very up and down in 2016 even in wins.
I agree that the Defense was a bigger factor in the 7-9 record though.
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Chris Trapasso Retweeted Buffalo Rumblings
Another reminder that the #Bills ran some zone-blocking concepts last season. Anthony Lynn is a Shanahan disciple... just like Rick Dennison
They ran some everything... Roman has just about every variety of run blocking in his scheme. It is true that in game calling terms Lynn as a play caller tendee to rely on more zone run plays than Roman.
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Don't know enough about the Sabres to answer. I don't think the Bills are close... don't think you can think that until the Quarterback is in place.
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The reason Tyrod is still here is also very simple. His decision to accept the contract reduction after his agent had temperature tested the market was based on three factors:
1. Chance to start in 2017;
2. Money;
3. Chance to play for a competitive team in 2017.
Most of the teams interested in giving him #1 and #2 could not, in his mind, offer #3 (see 49ers, Jets and Browns). The other options that might have offered #3 were probably not guaranteeing #1 (maybe the Cardinals or possibly the Texans where they were about to draft their QB of the future).
If the informal conversations his agent had been having had identified someone who had been willing to offer Tyrod money comensurate with his original deal and satisfying criteria #1 and #3 he would not have accepted the pay cut and then the Bills would have had a very difficult decision. In those circumstances my instinct is he wouldn't be here.
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Why does it matter to you that you are right? Who cares-he's the starting QB for 2017 and every Bills fan should be behind him, but clearly a few are not. He hasn't earned a reputation like that as if he were EJ, or Edwards and such, but gosh darn, you're going to make sure that anyone with something positive to say is going to be wrong.
Hahaha. When did I do that? I said something positive about Tyrod earlier in this very thread. And do not insinuate I am not behind him. I am behind every Bills player who takes the field. I just don't understand the constant need to spin the Tyrod situation and can only put it down to the fact that some people struggle to divorce their emotional desire for the Bills to succeed (which I have as much as anyone) from their ability to analyse the reality of what the contract is.
I am 100% behind Tyrod and I have never made any sort of claim that he is in the same bracket as EJ Manuel or Trent Edwards.
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And again, why are you using Whaley to support your argument? That's a big fail. Any QB that Whaley doesn't like, I'd take the opposite view.
What does that prove. A restructure is quite literally what it says on the tin... the same money re-structured. If I restructure my house I don't cut it in half do I?
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That is a clear indication what this franchise thinks of him.
I don't understand why this is a controversial view on this board. It is as clear as day to anyone who can divorce themselves from the emotion and stand back and look at it logically.
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Again, it's fine to say that you doubt other teams were interested, but it's wrong to state that as an established fact. There are a lot of reasons, other than lack of interest from other teams, that Tyrod may have signed the restructured deal. Those reasons have been covered in other threads at length, not to mention the fact that other teams were not allowed to even talk to Tyrod or his agent while he was under contract. And of course, it's not his agent's decision, it's Tyrod's.
Of course there may be other reasons, but can we stop calling it a restructure. This was not a restructure - this was a contract reduction - both in terms of pay and length.
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Like I said, I poke fun, but it's serious business in some places.
It's a serious business in many, many places. And it is often the "it does not matter to me crowd" who try and turn homophobia into something else as to avoid the issue.
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I have seen it with my own eyes Boyst. My friend did recognise it. He didn't dare get help for living in absolute fear of being exposed.
Speaking to him since the biggest reason he felt he had to end it was because he felt he had no place. He couldn't reconcile himself with the gay community because he didn't want to wear a rainbow flag or go to drag clubs or march for pride but he thought that the friends and community he lived in as a "straight" man would reject him if they found out he was gay. He lived in fear of that ever single day.
He came through it he is a much better person to be around now and he has had absolutely zero mental health issues since. He wasn't someone susceptible to mental health episodes who happened to be gay. He was someone whose internal trauma between the he that the world saw and the he that was true drove him to try and take his own life.
I wonder how many people in that situation you have spoken to? No you'd rather label them morons. Ignorant, nonsensical bile.
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Watching two dudes make out doesn't affect you at all?
I am also in the "any over the top public display of affection makes me a little queasy" but honestly - man/woman, man/man, woman/woman it makes zero difference.
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let this dude live his life. he's a moron, plain and simple. this is about mental health. not about being gay, no matter what he thinks - he has clearly shown to be a retard.
I'm sorry this is total rubbish. Imagine having to be someone else 24 hours a day for over 20 years of your life. If you don't understand that is the root cause of the depression and mental health issue I don't know what to tell you.
You are just wrong.
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I played soccer with a guy who went through very much the same and attmepted a drug overdose (thankfully his sister found him and he was got to hospital in time and survived).
He came out after that and almost immediately the demons were gone. He was an angry, aggressive character that gave way to a funny, charming, laid back man.
Until you have seen the affect that wrestling to keep your true self hidden 24 hours a day has on a person you have no idea the mental torment that can cause.
My thoughts and best wishes are with Ryan O'Callaghan and I pay tribute to the people at Kansas City who saved that young man's life. I've seen with my own eyes how close a friend came.
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Thanks. I will probably be labelled a "hater" or told I think Tyrod is "terrible" but I can only say it as I see it I don't think my post was unfair at all.Really good post. I think people might be surprised at how good Roman's offense was for Tyrod. People in SF started blaming Roman & Harbaugh for Kaepernick's regression as a qb. Well, they left and CK struggled even more.
But I'd love to be surprised to see Tyrod's strengths are as a qb are quick timing routes. I don't see that but who knows.
And like you, I'd love to be proved wrong. Tyrod is an easy guy to root for.
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I don't think Jones makes it past the first cut.
It's McD's team now and any unproven leftover has a slim to no chance.
There is no first cut now. Just a single cut down day.
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So where I think Vic is right - the pay cut and contract slashing tells you all you all you need to know about how the Bills actually view Tyrod - the best option for now but not a viable long term option.
Where I think he is massively reaching - that the pay cut is likely to have any effect on Tyrod's mental state when the season begins. Tyrod just never comes across as that type to me. He is a guy that has never done anything the easy way as a QB his whole career. He has always been fighting the odds. To even be where he is is a fantastic underdog story of a competitor who takes knock backs as challenges. I expect Tyrod to be the same Tyrod we have seen through two years. He will be conservative with the football but will lead his guys and make some plays. Same ceiling, same flaws but the same competitor he has always been.
What has been mentioned in this thread that I do question a bit is the idea this offense is a perfect fit for him. I think people look at the boots and the rollouts and presume that.... but this offense also relies a lot on timing routes and really accentuates short range accuracy. They are areas I think Tyrod still has questions to answer.
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Still? It's only June
And he had about 2 weeks with the playbook. I bet he is getting first team reps by the 2nd week of camp.
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I can't see it. I don't see them as a double digit win team again either. They are certainly primed for regression but they are still pretty good.
Agree. Couple of injuries I can see them 6-10 but I can't see worse than that.
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I think they have a top 10 corner in Darby, and the pair of corners the Bills have may be better than the pair three years ago. Everyone says the Bills are in trouble in safety, and I really don't get that. Micah Hyde is a seriously good player, and Poyer has nice experience. Bills' safeties weren't all that great back then - Aaron Williams and who? Plus, as the OP points out, the strength of the team is the line, and the defensive line is now going to go back to it's strength - playing aggressively and getting into the backfield. Williams may be old, and we'll see what he has left. Dareus and Hughes should thrive, and now we'll get to see what Lawson has.
Bottom line, it's easy to see this as a top 10 defense, if the defensive coaching measures up.
Darby is not a top 10 corner. Not even close. He had a good rookie year and a real sophomore slump. I like the kid and I like the Tre pick but neither are replacing the talent that we lost in Gilmore in 2017... as unpopular as I know Gilmore is in these parts. Aaron Williams and D'Norris Searcy were at least established coming into 2014... they had been on the team they knew their teammates they were not quite starting from scratch and I am a Micah Hyde fan - loved that pickup.
I am as big a Shaq fan as anyone on this board as well.... but 2017 Shaq is not going to be 2014 Mario. He just isn't. Not the same type of player anyway and Mario was in that period 2012-2014 (his first 3 years on the Bills) 3rd in the league behind only JJ Watt and Justin Houston in sack production. He was absolutely a premier defensive end in the league and in his prime.
I think this D will get better..... but in my opinion I see it somewhere 9th-14th. Expecting it to catapult back to near the top of the league is a reach for me.
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I don't believe the talent level on defense is any less than what Schwartz had in 2014 when our defense was great. Ryan's game management and his defensive schemes were abysmal, and McDermott doesn't need to be a defensive genius to produce far better result. Good defense coupled with offensive production even slightly better than last year can produce a 10 or 11 win season. Last years win total of 7 would have been much higher with a decent defense.
I hope you are right, but I don't share your belief. We had a premier pass rushing defensive end, a 3 years young Kyle Williams, a top 10 corner and an established pair at safety. The linebackers were a question going into that year and played well and are a question at this stage this year and who knows.
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and are a lower caliber player than Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck imo. those guys were complete luck. Manning and Luck were sure things. we are only going to win 6 games this year. what's the difference between winning 3 and winning 6 if it gets you one of the 2 best QB's in the draft?
If they are 2-6 after 8 games I will want them to stop pretending the season is recoverable.
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Only chance we finish close to the bottom is a tyrod injury
I think Tyrod and McCoy would have to both go down for us to end worse than 5 wins.
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Wgr talking about it now. Better chance to make the playoffs than hit bottom
Agree. I don't think we will do either. I'd put the over/under at 7 wins again.... I'd be shocked if this team won fewer than 5, surprised if it won fewer than 6 and surprised if it won more than 9 shocked if it won more than 10.
Dumb Carucci column...assessing QB position
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Nobody has argued that Goodwin is crap harder than me. Complete waste of time. But the QB's job is find the open guy and throw him the ball. We has plenty of open guys, it is there on film. When Tyrod lofted it and Goodwin failed to track the ball (because he is crap) I was the first to blame the receiver.
I think the passing game was to an extent limited by Roman's design though. They were never trying to be a move the chains, methodical, west coast offense.