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GunnerBill

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    Fair enough that you would settle for that. Everyone's got a different opinion on that.

     

    I would settle for it for 1 year. I have supported this team since 2001 and never seen us make the playoffs. But I don't think the team should be planning on the basis of getting in as a fodder team..... and they have tried that too often in my opinion.... neglecting the long term for the short term and it hasn't delivered.

  2. Ever notice how short the tenure is of ex-Bills on the Pats roster?

     

    might have been the case in the past.... but that is because in the past we didn't have talent and picking guys up from us was pointless. Donald Jones and Scott Chandler were never going to be long term Pats.

     

    What is different now is the Bills have talent.... and the Pats are plucking genuinely good players from us. Hogan and Gillislee are talented role players and Gilmore is a legit #1 corner. All 3 will have reasonably successful Pats careers.... Hogan already has a ring.

  3. As I recall, Henry didn't get much playing time with Yeldon. He shared time with Eddie Lacy.

     

    Yeldon is a big, strong runner with some speed. He can also catch as well as block. I haven't kept close track but I suspect that his pro career has been hampered by injuries.

     

    If this kid is healthy, the Bills would be well advised to grab him for a reasonable cost.

     

    He had a reasonable rookie year, a very bad 2nd year... but he has been running behind one of if not the worst line in the league. Not sure I'd trade anything for him (other than maybe a player on the bubble for us in a position where we have better depth - Patrick Lewis maybe?) but if he becomes a FA we should definitely have a look.

  4. Were you guys watching the same TJ Yeldon I was? I think we should at least wait until the Bills sign him before pretending he's good.

     

    At the moment any competition at the backup RB spot is to be welcomed. My view is if we end up with JW there (which I still don't think we will) it is a big downgrade.

  5. I don't want Decker. I am not generally in favour of throwing cap dollars at receivers unless they are "put you over the top" pieces or genuine star #1s. I just happen to be a big Maclin fan and think he would have had a direct impact on our W-L record in 2017.

    It was never get the best FA WR on the market for me.... it was Jeremy Maclin is on the market and might be affordable we should try and get him.

  6. Chris Brown believes if it's a one year deal it's probably going to be with the Ravens. He thinks this because the Ravens have lost their top two receiving targets in Pitta and Steve Smith. Maclin would have more of a chance in putting up bigger numbers in the Ravens offense as opposed to Buffalo who is focused on the run. Having a good year statistically next season would put him in better position for a bigger contract when he becomes an UFA in 2018.

     

    Brown doing his usual preparing the fanbase.... sounds like we lost out.

  7. I wish he would come back. He usually made sense when he wasn't posting about Rex.

     

    Every long time poster here has misjudged some players. I thought that Rob Johnson was a tremendous talent and would make a great quarterback. And I wanted the Bills to draft Ryan Mallett.

    Well said Bill. Not a one of us who is right all the time.

  8. I just don't think that they will use the roster spot when there are a bunch of "Yates'" out on the steet. I think 2 QBs is much more likely than Yates as the number 2. Maybe I'm wrong but if those guys are even close to him, he's gone IMO.

     

    He took a broken down Matt Schaub to Baltimore as a backup because he could run his system..... Dennison likes that vet guy who knows the scheme. I can see McDermott and Beane being where you are Kirby, very easily, the question is whether Dennison has sufficient influence to change that. I very strongly suspect he will want Yates on the 53.

  9. I wouldn't say nobody, but probably nobody worth listening to. So neither had quality pass catchers throughout the year, and Rivers ranked 16 (6.37) vs Tyrod at 18 (6.07). And in '15 Rivers ranked 14 (6.45) vs Tyrod at 9 (7.10). Is that not 'pretty comparable'?

     

    And FWIW, idk how much you use ANY/A, but it doesn't factor in any rushing stats.

     

    I don't think any single stat tells the whole story. You need a breadth of quantitative and then you need to overlay with what you seen on tape. I always think tape > everything to be honest when it comes to Quarterback play but that doesn't mean I ignore the data where it can be illuminating.

  10. He's only started 2 years, he was over 7 once, and despite last year being 'awful' he still wasn't below 6. Tyrod is nowhere near '08-'10 Rivers, but he's pretty comparable to '15-'16 Rivers, especially when you consider he's 9 years younger. Just my opinion.

     

    Nobody has said he was awful in 2016.... but there were plenty here making excuses for Tyrod based on who he was throwing to..... Rivers primary receiver was a 2nd year UDFA with 2 catches to his name prior to last year and who is already back down the depth chart through OTAs this year. His numbers are absolutely influenced by what is around him.

  11. I thought about starting a separate thread but don't want to flood the board. How would you handicap the #2 QB race? My thinking is that if a young guy emerges, Yates is gone. I'd say that Peterman is at 50%, Cardale at 35% and Yates at 15%

     

    I think both of the young guys have to step up for Yates to be gone. I think Dennison will want him here unless he is convinced the others can better operate the offense.

  12. Exactly this.

     

    He won't come. It won't happen. And there are reasons not to want Rivers, basically age and the state of the Bills roster which almost certainly won't be good enough to compete for a title till Rivers is about ready to retire. Not to mention how prohibitive the bounty the Chargers would demand if they could somehow hypnotize Rivers into not voiding a trade to Buffalo.

     

    But right now he's still running a pass game at a much higher level than Tyrod.

     

     

    Yep there are reasons not to be excited about trading for him, no doubt. I just don't see reasons for preferring TT all things being equal. As for where we would be with him.... I think we would have as much chance of losing to the Patriots in the Championship game as anyone else in the AFC.

  13. The receivers were open last year as was the TE. It's a rigged system in the NFL to allow Offenses to flourish by skewing the rules to allow WRs to get open. The young and new guys we have now will also be open in the Fall.

     

    Oh I have been the biggest drum banger when it comes to the fact our guys were open a lot last year and the QB didn't throw them the ball. But they have stuck with Tyrod and on the reduced deal that is a sensible move - so you put the best guys you can around him. Mac on a 1 year deal, Sammy on the last year of his rookie deal.... and if the QB can't get it done with a #1 and #1A it should accelerate the decision to move on. Set Tyrod up to succeed and then it is on him to do so. Unlike others who want a longer deal I only want Mac on a 1 year deal.

  14. I understand and respect your position, I just disagree based on the players right now. Everyone's got their stat, I personally really like ANY/A for QB performance. Generally speaking, if over the course of a season your ANY/A is 7 or higher it was a really good year. In Rivers' 11 years starting, he's broken the 7.0 mark 4 times (over 8.0 twice!). Unfortunately, he's only done it once since 2010.

     

    He has been on some bad teams since 2010. If you put Rivers on this team we are a playoff team. No question about it in my mind. The Bills are way more talented than the Chargers. I might take maybe 4 of their guys on defense and possibly 2 on offense (aside from Rivers) over ours. If people want reasons why the Chargers haven't been good there are lots and lots of them. I challenge anyone to go back and watch their tape from the last 2 years and say one of those reasons is Rivers. He remains the best thing about that team (though I'll give Bosa his props... he is 2nd).

     

    I can't imagine a single non-Bills fan who has looked at the tape would want Tyrod over Rivers.

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