GunnerBill
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This would be a tremendous value pick. Solidify the OL for the next 5 years...love it.
Yea, I'd be happy with that.
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Crichton is still there isn't he? Him.
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Come back up to the start of the 3rd using that extra 5th and take the best DE on our board. Then take RB and CB in 4 and 5. That would be pretty much a perfect draft for me.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we used that 5th to get up to the start of the third you know.....
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Traded back.
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Bitonio goes. Darn.
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You don't win by being passive. I love the fact he is willing to be intelligently proactive. He has done his part (sans getting o-line help—hopefully today), now it is on EJ and the players.
And the coaches....
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Given that there are still a fair few options on the board that could fit I suspect the Bills try and move back about 10 spots and pick up an extra 3rd next year or at worst a 4th to try and lessen the impact of the Watkins deal. Me personally, I'd just take my guy at #41. You've been brave don't doubt yourselves now.
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And I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.... but if Bitonio is there he is my guy.
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I'm not madly in love with the deal. I do think next year's first is a huge price to pay to get up 5 spots, however, I actually agree with your sentiment. I love the fact that here is a first draft GM willing to say "here is the top guy on my board, I have a chance to make this happen and I'm going to back my convictions and the judgement of my scouts."
I feel that this is probably the draft pick that Whaley will live or die by as a GM. Because regardless of what happens in the ownership stakes, if the team doesn't win this year he has really given up his shot at drafting a franchise Quarterback next year unless he can find a hidden gem in later rounds.
Everything is on the table.
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I'd start by taking Bitonio if he is there. I would then go with Moses, if both of them are gone then I would go in a different direction. I dont want Kouandjio.
Put me down as a pretty much plus 1. If Bitonio and Moses are gone then I'd hope Crichton or Tuitt are still there. If all 4 are gone then I might consider Kouandjio or a tight end.
EDIT: Actually Ealy is still there isn't he? So add him to Crichton or Tuitt as a DE option. If think one of those 5 will be there.
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Given up next year's first rounder.
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Here we go.... I think Watkins now.
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That would be ideal, but I think there's a high risk of losing him if you trade back. The Giants are good possibility to take him at 12 and the Dolphins might have interest in trading up to get him. If I were sold on him, and honestly, I'm more sold on Martin than any of the players likely available at 9, I'd just go ahead and make the pick.
In my mock I had the Giants coming up and trading with the Bills to take Lewan. I still think that's possible if he falls. I'm less convinced they'd trade up for Martin, but the Dolphins might. That is all of course if we have not already moved UP.
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Evans has been the guy I wanted all along. However, if we are trading up to get him it would depend on what we were giving up. My gut is still that we will end up with Ebron.
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I'm an EJ believer, but so long as the Bills strengthen that O-Line some then if we finish below .500 this year it will be Quarterback play that has cost us (again unless we have a horrible run of 5-6 big long term injuries to key starters). This team has the running game, it has better weapons than a lot of teams around the league, it has a defense that has some talent, yes they need to stop the run better and more consistently, but if with a bit better protection and blocking from the O-Line (and I don't mean 5 guys playing at elite level, but a clear improvement on last year) we still can't get to .500 then we will be drafting a Quarterback again next year.
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Disagree.. sort of. I think Mosley is a three down player, but agree that the amount of flashier talent is pushing him down the board. Plus, we aren't privy to teams info/evaluations regarding his health, and I think injury concerns knock him down a little too. If the Bills medical staff cleared him, I'd have no problem with them taking him at #9 depending how the top 8 went.
To add my two cents... I had Mosely sliding to 31 and Denver in my mock as well. For my part it's really nothing on him as a football player. I think he can be a three down guy and I certainly didn't start out with any obvious intent on pushing him down my mock. It was just that everywhere I had him in play I felt there was a player of similar abiltiy that better fitted that team's need or scheme. For me he was majorly in play at 11 with Tennessee, 12 with Buffalo (after a trade down), 17 with Baltimore, 19 with Miami, 21 with Green Bay and 27 with New Orleans. Green Bay was probably the biggest surprise not to pick him, because like Bandit I fancy that they see Shazier's speed and versatility as an asset that better fits what they are looking for.
He might go much higher and be a productive player in the league and if he slides to Denver they would get great value from him. For my part it was just the way the picks fell.
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I only listen to Murph, and normally as the podcast because 7pm over there is midnight over here and that's my bedtime, but on the odd occasion when I tune in to the last half hour of Shopp and the Bulldog I find them pretty annoying. I like Sal when he covers for Murph. Let me just reassure you all that we have one national sports talk radio station over here with presenters so absolutely clueless about soccer (which is the main sport they talk about) that it's frightening. It's not just WGR folks.
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Great minds think alike?
Haha. That's for others to say isn't it? but I think you have done a very thorough job.
I also question Pittsburgh taking Ebron, he doesn't seem like a Steeler type because of his lack of blocking.
That's the one pick I'd be most dubious about to be honest. You are far from the only person I've seen mock him to Pittsburgh and I do take your reasoning in respect of Heath Miller getting on in age and Big Ben does like throwing to a TE. However, I just think that football team has more urget needs on its defense and none more urgent than corner. Unless the top 3/4 corners are all gone by 15 I can't believe that the Steelers don't go there.
NB. I also mocked Ebron to the Bills @12 after a move back so to be fair he wasn't on my board to give to Pittsburgh anyway.
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Good work. I think I counted 7 picks exactly the same as my mock that I posted here a few weeks ago http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/167078-my-full-first-round-mock-draft/?do=findComment&comment=3108437 (including Shazier to Green Bay albeit you mocked that after a trade down) and then another half dozen or so where you have gone same position but different player, for example I've got the receivers and defensive backs stacked a little differently.
Nothing here that is obvious to to disagree with though.
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then please leave now. If you are a fan that says 'if they draft X player I quit' then just quit already. Christ...
I agree. I'm not a Manziel lover, but put the guy in a Bills uniform and I would root for him all day everyday.
CollegeFootball 24/7 @NFL_CFB 11m
Manziel out of 1st round in Casserly's mock draft 1.0 --> http://on.nfl.com/1juOCq4
...and since he left the Redskins who has been wrong more than Charlie Casserly.
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Whoever she picks still needs to be approved by the league. So the highest bidder might work for her, but not the league, in which case she has to sell to someone who will fulfill both needs.
That all may be true. But said owner would still have to be approved by the league. And the league is under no obligation to approve of the ownership group the trust might sell to due to concern for their own business interests. So then what? The trust/family sells to the highest bidder who can gain approval from the league. I don't see any alternative to the family and the league working hand in hand on this. If the league wants the Bills in WNY, the Bills will be in WNY. Trust or no trust.
I also wonder why there seems to be a sentiment that a WNY-centered bidder wouldn't be able to outbid other potential ownership groups wherever they may come from.
I agree. I'm on record as saying I'm pretty much certain the Bills stay in Buffalo. I think the factors in play all make that by far the most likely scenario. I was simply sharing my knowledge on some of the legal technicalities in the way that such trusts are generally set up and operate.
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I have to say I disagree. It was clear a couple years back, this belongs to the family not the trust. The trust is inplace to help the team keep going until a new owner is found. This is 100% Mary Wilsons team now
Having a bit of experience in this area of law and having dealt with a couple of cross jurisdictional cases where US trust law was relevant I can say pretty confidently it will depend on the terms on which the trust was established and the contractual obligations thereby placed upon it. I agree with your assertion that the team belongs to the Wilson family and not the trust, however, the trust are in operational control until such time as the team is sold and therefore are the de facto sellers. For that reason I think it's very likely that the trust's obligations in respect of the sale are obligations to the Wilson family and not to WNY. I find it almost impossible to believe that there is anything that gives WNY interests exclusive rights to bid. I think much more likely the trust is obligated to act in the best interests of the Wilson family 1st and Buffalo 2nd. Therefore a WNY bidder will not get favoured treatment if their bid is less than what Mary Wilson would get on the open market selling the team to someone who might well have designs on moving the team. It's likely that what is best for Buffalo and / or WNY is only a secondary factor where two rival bids both satisfy the obligations to Mary Wilson and the Wilson family.
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I don't think James does make 41.
Gotta Love Doug Whaley
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I agree. I think Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley have got a lot right since that pair came into the GM office. Whaley had a big influence even when he was Assistant GM and whilst they've not got everything right, and we will never forget TJ Graham over Russell Wilson, if you compare the talent and depth of talent on the roster now to the complete mess that they inherited it's a favourable comparison.
If EJ steps up this year I think we make the play-offs. If he is the guy we all hope he can be than I think we are there or thereabouts now.