GunnerBill
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And this is what many of us have been saying for a while. The talking heads are treating this QB class like 2013 when it is more likely a 2014 scenario.
Yep. I was almost a lone voice on that topic before the BBMB died and the influx happened. I never felt like this was a 2013 type class. I thought all that talk was ludicrous.
Thing is even pretty much all the talking heads have Quarterbacks in their top 25 on their big boards. That was absolutely not the case in 2013.
The reason this narrative existed, in my humble opinion, is that this is the least consensus opinion on a QB class I remember. So because people can't agree that it is Trubisky or it is Watson or it is Mahomes the word got out that they are all bad.... what if the opposite is true? What if there are actually good reasons why each of these guys could be a Franchise Quarterback?
Trubisky is not gonna fall to the Bills at #10, no way. I think Cleveland picking 1 and 2 is in no way impossible. I think they are desperate not to give anyone else a shot at him. My personal view is Watson won't either I think he goes to the Bears at #3 and have all draft season but if they pass the Jags appear to be in play at #4 and the Jets are in play at 6. Mahomes I think will be there at #10.... but if the Bills think he is the guy they better take him at #10 - I am not sure how much further he falls with Houston and Arizona both interested and potentially desperate if the other 2 are gone in the first 6 picks.
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He was the most overrated player in this draft not name Jabrill anyway.
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I do think Peterson is less effective from the gun and that reduces some of New England's flexibility when they go hurry up and that is probably why he isn't a Patriot.
The other factor that people shouldn't discount in this is Belichick taking a player off a divisional rival. It isn't just that the Patriots have Gillislee it is that the Bills don't. The two headed monster that teams struggled to contain last year now has a head missing. Belichick is the most calculating coach in the league. Would not surprise me one bit if Ernie Adams has an algorithm that says Buffalo's offensive production will reduce by X if Gillislee isn't there and that factored into their decision.
I know everyone will laugh at that and say "pah Belichick isn't worried about the Bills" but he calculates everything. Nothing is left to chance.
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Sign me up for a 5th for Hyde. Remember we tried to get up for him back in that 2014 draft too. Monos and Whaley love him.
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I have seen some people starting to mock Fournette there. Casserley did at the weekend as well. It doesn't feel like a really obvious match to me but we will see....
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Teams aren't going to make those trades pre draft because they don't knoe if their guy will even be there at the picks they are trading up to.
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Watson is going at 3 to the Bears.
Yea... Howard at 4 makes sense to me.
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Good job Bandit. There are going to be some picks here where my final mock matches up exactly!
There are some areas where I disagree as well.... I still don't see Conley going high for example.
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http://gridironnow.com/draft-analyst-derek-barnett-will-lead-league-sacks-myles-garrett/
I am with Bucky. I value hands almost more than anything else for pass rushers, it is one of the reasons I loved Shaq. I think Barnett's hands are the best of any rusher in this draft.
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Them's fighting words, mister. Prepare for fisticuffs.
In all honesty, check out Joe Banyard's pro day results from UTEP. He might be the one to focus on. Banyard is also 2 days away from having the greatest DOB in history.
In fact I think Baynard might have been who I was thinking of rather than O'Neal.
I hope you get proven right on Williams. I just wonder if the pre-injury player is still in there. I am not sure he is.
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Lattimore.
Edit: should clarify I'd prefer Watson but I am convinced they are not going QB at 10.
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5' 10" - 215 lbs. Went to Valdosta State. Made it to Philly's last cut. Has 1 year experience.
Could be another reason Gillislee was expendable.
Has more chance than Williams in my opinion.
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Barnett is the 9th best player on my board. I really like him. Think he will be a productive pass rusher in the NFL. His all round game can still improve but I love his pass rush ability. I would not be at all sad if the Bills picked him at #10, though going by Leroi's list he is not one of their targets.
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At this stage I have very little hope for JWill. He looked slow footed, ponderous and lacking acceleration in the games he played last year. Anything we get from him would be found money to my mind. If he ends up as the #2 that is a big downgrade.
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That instinctively feels right to me. We are middle of the pack in most facets hence we keep finishing somewhere around the middle of the pack.
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Depends how far you are dropping. If Cleveland wanted to come up from 12 to 10 I'd take a 3rd and a 6th this year and a 3rd next year or something like that. Any further back and I either want a 2nd in 2017 or a 1st in 2018.
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I think that Dave's point is that we if you want to see the pass yards improve, you will. It isn't necessarily the function of being better though, it's because they will throw the ball more in Dennison's offense. At the same time, I fully expect the run game to be worse.
But likely won't see it be top 10 which is what Estro was saying, to him, in answer to the question was what he wanted to see.
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I see. You're one of those guys who thinks its the players' fault the coach calls so many running plays.
To beat a dead horse....Every single year any team ran a Greg Roman offense, that team ranked very close to or at the very top of the league in number of running plays called and total rushing yards while being near or at the very bottom of the league in number of passing attempts and total passing yards. Every single year. Regardless of who was Qb. Even when the Greg Roman led 49ers went to the Superbowl.
All you have to do is look at the stats man. Just look. It is obvious as hell.
And guess which teams had the highest passing yards (in general)? Answer: The teams that threw the ball the most times.
Total yards passing and total yards rushing tell you more about how often a team ran or threw than they tell you about how effective that team was at rushing or throwing. If you don't believe me, just go look at the stats.
If you want to blame someone for that, blame the guy calling the plays not the players. And we have different guys calling the plays this year. My prediction is passing yards is going to go up substantially this year, not because the personnel is necessarily better, but simply because they will throw the ball more times per game than the last two years.
I think you are missing Estro's point. He is saying until we are a pass first team he doesn't believe we will be successful. He is saying that is the type of team he wants to see this year.
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The people making fun of the Browns need some humility. This draft is LOADED with talent and the Browns have a million picks. They could pass the Bills this year if we mess up this draft and they hit on guys.
They need to start using those picks better though and that is legitimate worry. Their draft last year did not impress me.
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McDermott's scheme has evolved into a zone, non-blitz setup. He hired Leslie Frazier to run our D and that makes sense. Frazier was Dick Jauron 2.0 whose defenses were so simple opposing QBs would call out the plays called by Frazier. I assume we will run a bend but don't break defense that takes away the big play. So if you enjoy that you're going to love McDermott.
But the link between McDermott and Frazier is Jimmy Johnson. I think it is a much safer assumption to assume they run a variety of that defense rather than some variety of a Tampa 2.
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The team coming to play every week. I go sick of watching a Rex team that took after its coach. Sloppy and half assed.
Develop an identity that makes me think "I know what this team is going to try and be the next x number of years."
If I get those two things and 6-10 I would be able to live with that.
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The top 10 on my board are:
1 Myles Garrett
2 Marshon Lattimore
3 Malik Hooker
4 Jamal Adams
5 Corey Davis
6 Reuben Foster
7 Jonathan Allen
8 Mike Williams
9 Derek Barnett
10 Soloman Thomas
Now Foster is likely off a lot of boards and I am not sure I want the Bills to pick him at 10 but that based on my evaluations is my board.
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7-9 but I can see a route to 10 wins especially the way the schedule is set up
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No way we lose to Denver in my opinion. They are going to suck this year. Defense will take a big step back without Wade and I don't like either of their Quarterbacks.
I can actually see them somewhere in the 4-12 range. (Edit... by them I mean Denver).
Could Derek Barnett wind up being the sleeper pick of them a
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Right...... where do I start.......?
On a serious note I obviously disagree strongly on Barnett but I am much closer to you on Taco and Harris. I have Taco as a borderline guy (1st/2nd) and Harris firmly as a 2nd rounder.
EDIT: And Blokes why are you up ranting about pass rushers at 3.20am? Adjusting your body clock for the draft?