GunnerBill
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Dareus must be in on the conspiracy too.... or maybe Rex is just bad?
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I believe this more and more.
They made Rex the scapegoat and leaked to the media and undermined Rex. It would have been nice for the HC - any freaking HC - not to be actively undermined by others in the organization.
Conspiracy theory nonsense. Rex made Rex the scapegoat by not coaching this team very well.
People say "this has happened twice with Whaley" but this is he second time Rex has hidden behind a GM too. It wasn't Idzik and it isn't Whaley - it is Rex. He is a poor Head Coach.
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Again, from what I recall reading at the time: they shared kisses on the Pegula Yacht over expensive wine and it was made known how Whaley and Rex were kindred spirits and they all sang kumbaya.
I am exaggerating of course but at no time did I ever hear that Doug Whaley was not for hiring Rex until . . . oh wait . . . the same time as the rumors about Rex being on the hot seat started circulating.
Hmmmm.
Not exactly true. I said on here in the spring of 2015 that what I had heard was that Whaley was asked to rank the candidates after the first interviews and Rex was not his #1 choice. He certainly has to take some of the blame for Rex because if he did feel strongly it was a bad move (it was) theb he didn't articulate that well enough and threw his weight behind the Pegulas too quickly.
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I just read that our top candidates are Tom Coughlin and Teryl Austin.
I hope you guys are excited.
I think both would be better Head Coaches than Rex Ryan and neither is near the top of my personal list.
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Anyone listening to WGR now.... I am pretty much where Paul Hamilton is.
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Late to the party I was on a train back to London from Northern England when the news broke.
This is the right decision. It was a bad hire from day 1 and never made any logical sense.
Personally I am pleased because really disliking and having no faith in the Head Coach of your favourite team is no fun.... but if he had won I'd have cheered as loud as anyone. He didn't and didn't look likely to.
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IMO, this is a very clear signal that Whaley will sink or swim with this decision.
I think it's also a clear message to the fans that the owners intend to let the GM make this decision.
I think the Pegulas have learned their lesson. I just worry a little window we had has closed in the meantime.
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We have. Countless times in countless threads. I have also accepted that might mean we are a bit worse at the position in 2017. I don't care. Backing into the playoffs one time in 2017 should not be this organisations plan.All those who say do not pay him should be required to tell us who our QB will be next year. He's not a Franchise guy now, but probably in the neighborhood of the 20th +/- best QB, and I have no problem paying him that way. I hope he continues improving, that can actually happen. (I know, it's looked awful at times, but, hey, what the better option?)
Tyrod is not a franchise QB therefore don't pay him even low end Franchise QB money. Pay him stopgap / caretaker money.... which is right about the $9m he was making this year. If he won't renegotiate then cut ties and move on.
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The Bills weren't ranked 19th in anything. They. Were. Not.
Last year? They were 19th in yards.
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Bobby and Ryan, I hate to be the one to tell you but Tyrod ain't goin nowhere. He saved his job yesterday. They are going to double down on him and bring in either a top 5 FA WR or else draft a receiver in the first round. You heard it here.
I am still not convinced Metz. It will depend on who replaces Rex I think. I still believe if this is Whaley's call and his only they move on.
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That was a great Xmas Evening treat!
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Teams do it all the time and look at Oakland they did it 3 years ago ans are in the playoffs.
Yep. That is a GREAT example. Cut Palmer because his salary was outstripping his performance and cycled through Flynn, McGloin, Pryor until the right guy fell to them in Carr.
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There are a lot of reasons. Shady is great. Gillislee is a tremendous backup. Glenn, Incognito and Wood until he was hurt are good. Kromer is one of the best OL coaches in the game. Tyrod is also a substantial part, not even counting his yards. Our line is not as good as it appears to be at times because of Tyrod. I would argue that excellent franchise QBs, like Flacco and Eli and Rivers, amongst others, would look terrible on our offense without Watkins. It's unknowable but I'm fairly certain that would be true. They would be crushed.
Franchise QBs being crushed is irrelevant because I am not arguing that our line is a good pass protecting line. I am arguing that it is a very good run blocking line. Does defenses having to play Tyrod keeping it help? Sure. No doubt. But this line (and Felton) blows people up in the run game. 2nd best run blocking line in the league after Dallas.
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Why should we actually we have many many times and the COT just cannot fathom similar play from those names at a reduced cost because TT is elite
I actually agree with this. We have given the names. Some of you don't agree they are alternatives - fine. They obviously rate Tyrod higher than I do.
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let's hope so... and move Glenn to RT. Already got paid so as long as he's comfortable and effective there I don't think he would be too upset. That's a fantastic OL.
As I say my preference would still be to try CK at RT first but if this really is about mobility on that knee then CK left and CG right is the way to go.
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Can they extend CK this offseason? Thinking he might extend now with not much on tape for a backup type deal. Then if he becomes your starter you are playing with house money.
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Put Glenn at right and leave Cyrus at left.
In preseason I would try CK back at RT first but if that looks as it did before and the truth about his mobility is that he can't move that side then try him left and CG right.
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even while still a chance for playoffs?
I always thought that chance was remote in all honesty after the Steelers game.
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The Quarterbacks people keep comparing TT's cap to are proven franchise guys (maybe Sam Bradford and that terrible Osweiler deal apart). I don't think Tyrod is that.Also keep in mind with many teams having 50+ million in cap space next year(Cleveland has $110 million!!!) Tyrod would probably get MORE than what he gets here from a team who is desperate
So you should be comparing his salary to the caretaker options not on rookie deals - RGIII, Keenum, Gabbert, Hoyer, Fitz etc..
If I thought Tyrod was a franchise Quarterback then $16m would be cheap. I don't though, I think he is the best caretaker QB. That puts him somewhere around his current 2016 salary $9-10m. That is his value. If the Bills take up the option they are overpaying. Now take the view that overpaying Tyrod is the best of a number of bad options if you like... I see that argument and have sympathy with it. But don't pretend it isn't overpaying - because it definitely is.
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Its a weak draft for QBs...some are comparing it to the 2013 draft with Manuel, Smith and Glennon,etc...
It is not the strongest class I agree. DeShaun Watson is a light years better prospect than anything in that draft but at the moment he is my only 1st round graded QB.
I think there are some interesting mid rounders so it isn't 2013 bad.
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I have been opposed to bringing Tyrod back unless he agrees to a cheaper deal, but I'm not so sure now. I think he is gradually improving, and I think it's possible (although maybe not highly likely) that with a relatively healthy receiving group, he takes a quantum leap next year. There are probably not more than 12 current starters around the league that I would take over Tyrod right now. Ultimately, it should be up to the next coach, though.
I have always been on the fence, slightly against, if the cap is going up more tha expected and the 3rd year is only guaranteed for injury (which is the new information) then I do think that tilts it back a bit.
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I had assumed Cook was Carr's backup...Is he not?
No McGloin is for the same reason EJ is the #2 here. Experienced etc..
He can't run the same offense though and I think Cook maybe can. I likened Cook to Carr during the draft process.
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That is probably going to happen
I am still not convinced it will with Rex out of the picture.
I thought Rex's words in the post game presser were every pointed:
"Will Tyrod still be your Quarterback next week?"
"Yea Tyrod will be my quarterback"
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I don't hate the idea of Lynn but he would not be my first choice.
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