GunnerBill
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You can have that quitter every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Ass of a man but a better Head Coach than Rex Ryan and I am no Marrone fan. We can do better.... but we could also do worse. And we did.
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God forbid that anyone should have some personality.
Some of you guys seem almost wistful of St. Doug's personality.
Give me Doug Marrone over Rex Ryan yesterday, today and tomorrow.
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I hate Bucky and love the Pegulas. I also hate the move today.
If the Pegulas thought that they could placate the anti Rex pitchfork crowd here and in the media by firing Rex, they are sadly mistaken.
They listened to the wrong guy and fired the wrong guy (if they were going to fire anyone).
There is no pitchfork crowd. Just people who are sick of watching the same mistakes repeated again and again by Rex.... and not just repeated here.... anyone who paid close attention to the New York Jets knows that these are the same mistakes that have been repeated for years.
Only one man did this to Rex Ryan - that man is Rex Ryan.
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I'm afraid the ringleader just got a boost today.
Garbage!!!!!
Nah. The ring leader is out of the door.
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It is both. You don't continue to prioritise fundamentals even in the professional game don't be surprised if you don't execute.If you cannot tackle in before you come to the NFL, you may want to consider something other than playing defense. Let's not pretend this is a scheme issue.
As for it is not scheme.... interesting you should say because from Rex himself yesterday - the tackle Robey missed wasn't his man. There was confusion he got there too late to wrap up. The same excuse for the missed tackle by Bradham on Jennings against the Giants last year.
Both admitted by Rex. Let's not pretend scheme played not part in this shall we?
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Just the person trying to capitalize on those losses for their own good?
One Buffalo my ass.
The front office is everyman for themselves.
I don't disagree with that. This organisation is dysfunctional. That is not the reason Rex Ryan failed to win more games. That is on his coaching.
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How many TDs were directly caused by the failure to tackle by Bills defenders? This is not a scheme issue.
How many TDs were taken away from the Bills because of the failure to call obvious pass interference?
The game should not even have gone to OT given the above.
Lack of attention to fundamentals is not new with a Rex Ryan team. Go back at watch the two blow outs of Rex's Jets in 2015 with his "you're gonna see.... it won't happen again" before the snow game in Detroit.
Same issues. Fundamentals. If this was a one off you might put it squarely on the players. It isn't. It is a regular feature of Rex Ryan teams.
So we have done blaming the GM and the President... and we have done blaming the players... now we are onto the refs.
None of those are culpable. Rex Ryan is. That his circus ended on a running back going 60 yards against a D with 10 men on the field is the perfect finale. It sums up the Ryan era in Buffalo.
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If the equivalent of guys like you had gotten their way, Sir Alex would have lost his job after the first few years. (No, I am not saying Rex is Sir Alex)
As much as you try, Rex will always have the winningest record as a Bills HC for the past 17 years with the injuries and without an elite QB. We should now judge Doug Whaley with the same latitude (none) as we (collectively and as the team) did with Rex.
No you keep making this mistake. You keep thinking I am a hire 'em and fire 'em addict. I am not. I wanted to give Gailey a 4th year and I didn't want Marrone to go.
This is purely and very specifically about the coaching abilities or lack thereof of Rex Ryan. Sir Alex Ferguson got backed at Manchester United because there was a discernable plan. He inherited a team some thought ready to win and was a runner up his first year but the team was old so he ripped it up and began a full rebuild.
Rex Ryan didn't have that level of immediate success and he has been totally unable to deliver on the vision he claims to have for this team. He wanted to build a bully. Three 200 yard rushers against his bullies in a year. After the first Miami game everyone said "that was because Dareus didn't play." It wasn't. It was on some pretty shoddy coaching both in scheme and fundamentals.
I generally favour continuity but not with Rex. He is a bad coach. Pure and simple.
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Yeah, he just had the best record since Wade. Firing Wade was not a bright move either.
I remember how people were so up in arms that Wade did not wear headphones on this board . . . .
He was also the only man in that run to inherit a team with a winning record.
He is the only coach in NFL history to inherit teams with winning records in both of his first two Head Coaching gigs.
61-66.
He is what his record says he is. Not very good.
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Not really.
Who times a leak to come out minutes before the Pittsburgh game other than someone who is trying to further an agenda.
Who kept his job?
Who is going to lead the HC search?
Not the person largely responsible for those 4 losses.
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Spend some time reading the reaction around the league today and going forward about this move.
The ultimate question is how do you fire the guy who was the most successful Bills coach in the past 17 years after LESS than two years with all of the injuries etc.
The second question will be: how did the guys who have been around the longest during this playoff drought and more responsible for it manage to keep their jobs?
Hmmm. I wonder how Doug et al managed to keep their jobs?
Here are the answers:
1. Because he has been bad and wasted the talent.
2. Because they were not the ones going to prevent defense halfway through the third quarter in Oakland or trying to stop the best running back in the league with 7 man spacing or punting with the season on the line or not calling time outs in time or not getting 11 men on the field.
There was just so much that can be put directly on a failure of coaching.
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I'd rather Stewart Houston coach the Bills than Rex - Rex has never been a good Head Coach. He wasn't in New York and he hasn't been in Buffalo. He is bad, it was a major mistake by the Pegulas in hiring him, at least they didn't let it drag on too long.i am completely underwhelmed.
I would rather that Arsene coach both the Bills and Arsenal.
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Dareus must be in on the conspiracy too.... or maybe Rex is just bad?
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I believe this more and more.
They made Rex the scapegoat and leaked to the media and undermined Rex. It would have been nice for the HC - any freaking HC - not to be actively undermined by others in the organization.
Conspiracy theory nonsense. Rex made Rex the scapegoat by not coaching this team very well.
People say "this has happened twice with Whaley" but this is he second time Rex has hidden behind a GM too. It wasn't Idzik and it isn't Whaley - it is Rex. He is a poor Head Coach.
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Again, from what I recall reading at the time: they shared kisses on the Pegula Yacht over expensive wine and it was made known how Whaley and Rex were kindred spirits and they all sang kumbaya.
I am exaggerating of course but at no time did I ever hear that Doug Whaley was not for hiring Rex until . . . oh wait . . . the same time as the rumors about Rex being on the hot seat started circulating.
Hmmmm.
Not exactly true. I said on here in the spring of 2015 that what I had heard was that Whaley was asked to rank the candidates after the first interviews and Rex was not his #1 choice. He certainly has to take some of the blame for Rex because if he did feel strongly it was a bad move (it was) theb he didn't articulate that well enough and threw his weight behind the Pegulas too quickly.
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I just read that our top candidates are Tom Coughlin and Teryl Austin.
I hope you guys are excited.
I think both would be better Head Coaches than Rex Ryan and neither is near the top of my personal list.
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Anyone listening to WGR now.... I am pretty much where Paul Hamilton is.
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Late to the party I was on a train back to London from Northern England when the news broke.
This is the right decision. It was a bad hire from day 1 and never made any logical sense.
Personally I am pleased because really disliking and having no faith in the Head Coach of your favourite team is no fun.... but if he had won I'd have cheered as loud as anyone. He didn't and didn't look likely to.
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IMO, this is a very clear signal that Whaley will sink or swim with this decision.
I think it's also a clear message to the fans that the owners intend to let the GM make this decision.
I think the Pegulas have learned their lesson. I just worry a little window we had has closed in the meantime.
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We have. Countless times in countless threads. I have also accepted that might mean we are a bit worse at the position in 2017. I don't care. Backing into the playoffs one time in 2017 should not be this organisations plan.All those who say do not pay him should be required to tell us who our QB will be next year. He's not a Franchise guy now, but probably in the neighborhood of the 20th +/- best QB, and I have no problem paying him that way. I hope he continues improving, that can actually happen. (I know, it's looked awful at times, but, hey, what the better option?)
Tyrod is not a franchise QB therefore don't pay him even low end Franchise QB money. Pay him stopgap / caretaker money.... which is right about the $9m he was making this year. If he won't renegotiate then cut ties and move on.
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The Bills weren't ranked 19th in anything. They. Were. Not.
Last year? They were 19th in yards.
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Bobby and Ryan, I hate to be the one to tell you but Tyrod ain't goin nowhere. He saved his job yesterday. They are going to double down on him and bring in either a top 5 FA WR or else draft a receiver in the first round. You heard it here.
I am still not convinced Metz. It will depend on who replaces Rex I think. I still believe if this is Whaley's call and his only they move on.
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That was a great Xmas Evening treat!
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Teams do it all the time and look at Oakland they did it 3 years ago ans are in the playoffs.
Yep. That is a GREAT example. Cut Palmer because his salary was outstripping his performance and cycled through Flynn, McGloin, Pryor until the right guy fell to them in Carr.
Bucky: Rex takes fall, but Bills' problems start at the top
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Okay let me try another way.... present your case for why he should have stayed. Not excuses... not injuries or refs or nasty Doug Whaley what have you seen from Rex to suggest he had this team headed in the right direction? We know he has a record that is one game better than Doug Marrone's let's take that as a given. I am looking for something tangiable about what he did do not excuses for what he didn't do... maybe I am missing it.