GunnerBill
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I like the ending.... Tom Brady can't play forever... the end of their dynasty is close now. The Bills could be good soon. I have hope that the next decade is going to be a good one.
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Not sure what point you're trying to prove, but ok. My point is this isn't a team that struggled to find wins despite lackluster coaching, which is a significantly different situation than a new coach walking into a program that was 2-14 or 4-12 a year ago.
It's just a general irritation of mine. You are what your record says you are. It's not really about whether it says something good or bad about the Bills.... I said the same when people were trying to talk down the 9-7 season.
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I don't remember too many people playing Switzerland. Some had stringer feelings than others but most everyone (at least on this side of the pond) had a favorite.
I would say EJ was my favourite until I saw Tyrod play and then I really did not care so long as it wasn't Cassel and I might have had a major rant / meltdown when Coller on WGR made his infamous "tea leaves" proclamation that it would be Cassel on WGR the night after the 3rd pre-season game. The argument for Cassel never made any sense in my mind.
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I think a lot of people in 2015 were not on one horse or the other... so much as they were ABCs..... I certainly was. I didn't mind whether it was EJ or Tyrod (though I thought at the start Tyrod was a long shot) I just didn't want it to be Cassel.
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You one of the good ones, Bill.
What can I say.... equal opportunities talent spotter Jauronimo.
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C'mon, GB...I think I covered that with "essentially."
They weren't "essentially" anything.... they were .468. No more, no less.
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I do like me some hunky white dudes.
Trey Flowers is a good looking fella and I wouldn't kick Devin Lucien outta bed
Trey is dreamy. Not seeing it with Lucien Blokes I gotta say......
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on a team that was essentially .500 the last two seasons.
They were .468 the last two seasons. I don't want to hear woulda, shoulda, coulda about the Jets game. They lost it. Same as all the "well 2014 wasn't really 9-7.... it was 8-8...." Nope. NFL seasons are 16 games long. Excluding the final game from the record makes no sense.
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raysis
I'd find TD Mike relatively aesthetically pleasing too.
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You can't just throw out his MVP season!! It's a part of the equation, and a big part. He still has averaged 31 TDs a game for his career. He's 51-40-1 with garbage weapons. He's pumped out 12 game winning drives. Cam is a franchise QB without question. Tyrod hasn't proven to be that yet. He has a chance this year to take a step. Tyrod isn't in the Cam Newton tier though, he's in with Dalton, Tannehill, Alex Smith and Joe Flacco.
Agreed. Though as you know I think Flacco still clings on to the bottom of the tier above.
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Say what you will about the Patriots but they probably have the most aesthetically pleasing offensive personnel in the league.
Edelman, Amendola, Hogan, Gronk, Brady, Garoppolo.
Yea..... the "talent" on that team can be seen in many different ways....
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I was going to post almost the exact same thing and I agree with your subsequent points too. Tyrod will either step up in his problem areas and we will have our QB or he'll be out - and a WCO will absolutely showcase those areas. Pushing him to improve is absolutely the right move because this needs to be the season to find out if he can do it or not. Not to anoint Peterman or anything, but he's definitely a fit for the WCO. It's probably the only kind of NFL offense he has a chance to be successful in. It shows you the kind of QB the Bills will likely focus on acquiring if Tyrod isn't successful.
I also have questions about Tyrod's "fit" in this offense. I think a lot of people have presumed he is a great fit because of the way Dennison moves the pocket and rolls his QB out... but there is a lot in this offense that is about timing and footwork that flows back through Kubiak to Shanahan adopting much of Bill Walsh's 49ers offense when he was Seifert's OC and they are areas where it is fair to question whether Tyrod has demonstrated the necessary level of capability on tape. If he can master those facets he will be well on his way to being a very successful Quarterback.
To this day, I think Hogan is a worse player than he probably is.
You do.
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Why has this turned into an EJ Manuel discussion? He is gone, he ain't returning... he failed. Let's move on. Otherwise why don't we have a Tyrod vs Trent discussion or a Tyrod vs JP chat? Equally pointless.
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I'd love to see our Bills surprise all the pundits and be a legit playoff team but I'm just not sure the talent on the back 7 D will get us there
USA Today just came out today and ranked our secondary 4th worst in the NFL and our LB's 24/32
Not saying they are correct, just saying if they are close that ain't gonna get into the playoffs, or anything close to a top 5 or Top 10 D
Nor does it suggest the revamping of our secondary paying dividends in 2017
jc
While I disagree with you somewhat on Hyde, as explained above, I do share concerns about our back 7. I saw technique issues with Darby last year that worry me going forward. I hope he steps back up to 2015 form this year but that should not be taken as a given. I like Tre'Davious White but to expect him to step in and be as good as Gilmore (forget what the haters says he really is very good) in year 1 feels like a stretch and I think anything approaching starter calibre play out of Jordan Poyer at this stage is found money.... he is a complete question mark as there is so little NFL tape to go on. I also think our linebacking unit is still totally up in the air at this stage - who starts and in what positions I still couldn't call. Ragland probably the MIKE? Lorenzo the SAM? Hodges or Brown or Humber at the WILL? Question marks a plenty.
But whilst all that should probably suggest the playoffs are a long shot - I point you to the 2016 Miami Dolphins. Their linebacking corps were possibly the worst in the entire league... certainly bottom 4 or 5.... Alonso was just about passable but the other two "starters" Paysinger and Jenkins (who were both allowed to leave this offseason) were absolutely terrible. Jenkins might be the worst player I watched in the NFL last season. Their defensive backfield was slightly better, though not much... and was certainly bottom 3rd of the league. And yet.... and yet.... they made the playoffs. An anomaly? Probably. But it doesn't necessarily follow that a bad back 7 will eliminate you from playoff contention.
I share your view that the Bills are a longshot for the post season... but the 2016 Dolphins exist to prove that sometimes logic goes out of the window in a league where it really is who can make those 7 or 8 critical plays over the course of a season.
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Despite telling myself I didn't.... I wanted them to beat the Seahawks. Too many people in that Seattle team and coaching staff that really, really grate on me as personalities.
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I don't just don't see Tampa.... Not with the dirty birds in their division... They'll be served two losses by ATL, split with the Saints and Carolina.. Add two losses to the Giants and Patriots, and I have them at 10-6.
Atlanta will take a step back though. Not a Panthers last year level step back.... but a step back all the same. I actually think the NFC South is wide open and given its schedule (AFC East and NFC North - two weaker divisions) it wouldn't surprise me if some media types are hyping it as the strongest division in football by the end of the season. Can see all 4 teams at .500 or above.
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He was going to be the other guy in my example. It's just a feeling but I think he climbs the board. I expect big things out of them this year with Rudolph as a Heisman candidate.
I made something of a start on Rudolph this year and liked what I saw for the most part. It wasn't very detailed but I made notes of 2 games and he was pretty close on those games to where I had Trubisky. Hadn't really got into his flaws but there is some good there in his tape.
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I keep reading, all over this forum, what a 'special' player M Hyde is, or what a great get he is - Honestly I don't get the hype, yes I think he's a solid young 5th year depth player, with potential upside to start in the right system, but one should remember the Packers never saw him an NFL starter, and made no attempt to re-sign him, here's a review by a packers media pundit who witnessed Hyde's game in and game out over 4 seasons
Despite some of the big plays that Hyde made down the stretch, Hyde is part of the reason that the Packers’ defense struggled as much as it did as well. Hyde does not have top end speed. He struggles in man coverage. He has made some big plays, but gave up his fair share as well. Hyde is a solid all around player, but does not do anything special. He would have been a solid piece for the Packers to bring back if the price would have been right. When the Packers’ secondary was healthy in 2015, Hyde was designated as the player to shadow the opposing team’s tight ends. He was repeatedly targeted, and mostly abused in coverage. 2016 brought about a bigger role for him because of a secondary that was ravaged by injuries. Hyde performed admirably. An eight-game stretch does not, however, erase the kind of player that the Packers should have learned that Hyde was over the stretch of the first four years of his career. In order to retain Hyde, the Packers would have had to pay him more money than what they let Casey Hayward walk away for just one season ago. Even if you remove Hayward’s outlier season in terms of interceptions, Hayward was always a better cornerback than Hyde. Hyde’s versatility, while useful is not worth the price that was ultimately paid to him from outside of the organization. The lack of an offer by the Packers proves the team felt the same way. By removing Hyde from the defense altogether, the Packers are almost forcing themselves to get faster in the secondary. They will need someone to replace all the things that Hyde did for them. They’ll likely find someone who is better athletically and with more speed. His play down the stretch turned into a big payday. Hyde should be commended for that. Without Hyde, the Packers may not have made the playoffs, let alone been one step from the Super Bowl. It can also be true that the defense was bad with Hyde on the field. It can also be true that Hyde is one of the main reasons the secondary was as poor as it was. Hyde was a limited player. His new contract is paying him as if he is a premium player. While the Packers technically got worse by losing Hyde’s versatility in the short run, it forces them to get better in the long run. For that reason along with several others, the Packers made the right call by letting Hyde walk.
jc
The Packers made the right decision letting him walk - I've talked before about the fact that when you have elite talent you don't pay to keep those mid roster role players.
I don't, however, agree with the assessment of Hyde. I think he is limited by his lack of speed as an outside corner, but his physicality across the middle has made him an effective slot corner, and he played really well last year when asked to start as a safety. He is a really nice fit for this defense and I expect him to have a solid season. If anything I think he is a player whose versatility has hurt him throughout his time in Green Bay... because whenever they have had an injury in the secondary he has been the one moved around to plug the gap. I believe he will benefit greatly from having a regular spot at safety. He has graded out as solidly above average every year he has been in the league and I think that he is a very good scheme fit. Wouldn't surprise me to see him getting some league wide attention by mid season.
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The only way we're picking 6 is if Tyrod Taylor has a terrible season.
If that's the case, rest assured we'll take a QB with the first pick in 2018.
Agreed and might even trade up a spot or two to do so.
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And Mayfield won't go first! Please some sanity for us all!
Blokes and Bandit both really seem to like him. I haven't looked at him at all yet. He is on my list of guys to watch live early in 2017.
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There will not be 6 first round Quarterbacks in 2018. I'll say it until I am blue in the face.... there just won't.
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The Cardinals were 13-3 in '15. Only reason they didn't make the SB was they lost Palmer and his back up very late in the season. If you actually predicted a Bills win last offseason, whatever you're doing to make a living, you're in the wrong bidniz.
I did. I will find the post... but you are getting two years mixed up. 2014 was the year Palmer got injured and the replacements sucked in the playoffs against Carolina. In 2015 Palmer started to look a bit old at the end of the year and in the playoffs. As I say, over the years I have been reasonably good at predicting when teams that have had a run are about to fall off.
You like Siemian but Tyrod not so much?
I'd take Tyrod any day of the week over Siemian.
So would I - but do think Siemian is a pretty good fit for the O we are about to run.
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Who expected Karlos Williams and Gillisslee to do what they did the last 2 years? Jonathan Williams. please step forward. Let's wait and see what he's got.
I had a ton more faith in them that in Jonathan Williams.
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Games 5-7.
So many perfectionist here.
I know you know what I meant you just wanted to correct me, thanks I'm an idiot
Yes they are thanks. Just trying to spur up some conversation here. But I guess the thread should have been about the 16 most critical games this year. That would have been fun.
Games 5-7 is still only 3 games... which are the other 2...?
Another reason to like Peyton Manning...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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There are reasons to like Peyton Manning? Huh. I've never come across one.