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There'll be plenty of speed on the field where we won't have to remove our best wide receiver for marginally more speed.
The "law of diminishing returns?"
You are a wise man. It is the same thing as suggesting the Pats send Gronk (if healthy) to the bench to get Donald Jones on the field because he is faster (maybe). Why would the Bills ever take your only consistent and best WR off the field in any situation (unless he is hurt or needs a breather)?
I am as excited as anyone about the speed on this team but it is there to compliment. Those speedsters job is to get the safeties away from the line off scrimmage to open things up or CJ and SJ. The Bills didn't scare anyone over the top last year and CJ and SJ were still productive.
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The reality is that the union in the NFL is way weaker than in other sports. The baseball players union and the NBAPA have already established that they won't play for non guaranteed deals. If a team makes a mistake and offers Drew Gooden $35M than they live with that mistake. In the NFL Gooden would have been gone after a year and the team only out the guaranteed portion.
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If he has a career ending injury that is all that he will see. If he signs a 5 year $42M dollar deal with $20M guaranteed it is a much better deal for him. In the NFL you do not want to operate year to year. That's why players don't like it.
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Mario OFF the field on passing downs? Am I missing something??
Thought that it made about as much sense as taking Stevie Johnson off the field on offense
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The defense should be exciting as well! If they can get Mario off the field on passing downs and get Justin Rogers out there the speed will be ridiculous.
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I disagree. I think a lot of teams don't have #1 receivers, which is a type more than a simple ranking slot ranging between 1 and 32. A #1 is a guy who consistently beats single coverage, is strong enough to go across the middle and make plays, is acrobatic enough to make the hard catches, runs great routes, and -- most importantly -- is a home run threat on top of all of this. In other words, the guys you need to gameplan against. Johnson is a number of these things, but he's not a home run threat. True #1s are guys like Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, and Steve Smith (in his prime) - big enough to overpower DBs, fast enough to beat guys deep, and strong enough to make the medium range catches and get YAC. (Smith is an outlier here because he's not tall, but he's incredibly strong and athletic.) A younger version is Julio Jones: http://www.pro-footb...J/JoneJu02.htm. The numbers bear it out for those guys. In non-injured years, they get between 1300-1600 yards. Stevie is a very good player, but he's not that guy.
Thought that we established earlier in this thread that Stevie over the last couple of years wasn't much different than Fitzgerald? Stevie has 4 more receptions, 1 more TD and 150 yards less. Neither had very good quarterbacking situations so they are better comparisons than a Julio Jones or Steve Smith.
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Over the last 2 years:
WR A: 151 catches, 2209 yards, 12 TDS
WR B: 155 catches, 2059 yards, 13 TDS
One of them is Stevie Johnson and the other, no one would dispute is a number 1 (Larry Fitzgerald).
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Maybe I view this differently and logic might get in the way but there are 32 teams in the NFL. That means that there are 32 spots for a #1 WR. Is Stevie one of the 32 best WR in the NFL? Of course!!
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No way Kaufman beats out Easley.
Really? A 6-5 guy that was very productive in college and brought in by this regime vs. a guy that has never stayed healthy and only had 1 productive college season. I think that Easley is a long shot to make this team.
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Nix did a pretty good job in his tenure. The level of overall talent on the roster is far superior then when he arrived. He was a good recruiter in free agency and drafted the guy that he believes will be the franchise QB. I wish him well in his new role.
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The Bills may be better and I am an optimist but this is ridiculous.
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There is no chance we carry seven WRs and just five defensive linemen.
I categorized guys like Mark Anderson and Jerry Hughes as LB. They will be 4-3 DE but 3-4 OLB.
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On the roster:
Stevie
Woods
Graham
Goodwin
Fighting for 2 spots:
Rogers (Undrafted)
Easley
Kaufman (Undrafted)
Brad Smith
Dickerson
They may even keep 7, but looking at those top candidates for final 2, Easley has a great shot. Only problem I see is if they keep 6 only, Brad Smith is so good on special teams he maye be kept even with the salary.
You have to take into account that this staff has no loyalty to Easley. Are they interested in keeping a guy that has done nothing and never stayed healthy or a guy that they pushed to add to the roster (ie Rogers and Kauffman)? Easley has some nice physical traits but I just can't see this staff giving him a spot.
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QB - Manuel, Kolb (Tuel PS)
RB - Spiller, Jackson, Choice
H-Back - Dickerson, Gaskins
OL - Glenn, Snow, Woods, Urbik, Hairston, Pears, Brown, Young, Sanders
TE- Chandler, Gragg, Smith
WR- Johnson, Woods, Goodwin, Graham, Smith, Rogers, Kauffman
DL - Mario, Dareus, Kyle, Branch, Carrington
LB - Anderson, Alonso, Bradham, Lawson, Moats, Dotwin, Scott, Pugh, Hughes
S- Byrd, Searcy, Williams, Williams, Meeks
CB - Gilmore, McKelvin, Brooks, Roby, Rogers
K- Hopkins
P- Powell
LS - Sanborn
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I'm a little concerned about what I've heard. I mean the guy is already a practice into his career and he's still having footwork issues. I don't know how much longer this franchise can afford to stick with this guy. I mean we haven't been to the playoffs in 13 years!
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You must have missed this during the offseason almost "every receiver on the roster in 2012" is no longer on the roster in 2013.
(This is a good thing BTW)
That was the point. Easley played behind Jones, Nelson (when healthy), and RUVELL MARTIN. Easley hasn't proven that he can stay healthy and does not add anything that a different WR can't do. I would be shocked if he made the team.
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Maybe the "Lief Larson Award" would be better...
He fits but Chuck Lester managed to do it for like 20 something years!! Troup and Easley are probably my current guys and if they get cut I could see Arthur Moats filling in for them. He had a few decent games as a rookie and now just is kind of there.
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Was John McCargo a winner as well? And was Todd Collins the all time champ or does he get disqualified because he only was a Bill for 3 years?
McCargo sure was. I started the thread a couple of months back. The Bills have a history of guys that make the roster for a few years and never contribute anything. I wonder if other teams have guys like this? There have been a bunch over the last 15 years or so.
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Easley has no chance of making this team. There are 3 (potentially 4) rookies that were brought in to replace the guys AHEAD of him on the depth chart.
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You could have put George Wilson on that list for a long time. Usually don't make that list unless you show flashes of being able to contribute at least. Personally have always though that both of them could be solid players given the right situation. Think Easley could have done more last year given a chance, but hard to say he earned that chance. Did seem last coaching staff liked to keep the status quo, and often seemed to keep the player that was in the position rather than the player that had the most potential or was best player. Course that's an outsiders view and have no links to support that.
The list is mostly predicated on fooling people through final cuts and then contributing zero. I guess that it should come as no surprise that these two are having a great spring!!
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I don't believe that Hopkins was drafted to compete with Lindell he was drafted to replace him. The kid was one of the beat kickers in the nation and had a huge leg. The Bills punted from the 32 last year!! They cannot leave points out there like that anymore. Lindell may hang through camp to keep Hopkins leg fresh but he won't be on the roster this year.
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Easley and Troupe were my winners of the Chuck Lester award!! I give the award to the people that stick around for multiple years without actually doing anything. Previous winners include Josh Stamer and Keith Ellison.
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I have a question.
Are these the rankings of the players this past season? Or is what they are predicting them this season?
Upcoming
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That sounds about right, though I feel wilfork should be in the mix as well. The talent in the AFCE has gone down a bit with Revis and Welker departing.... the bills actually got better with those two players being subtracted from the division.
I knew that I was forgetting someone.
The Steeler Way
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I am drinking the Kool-Aid as well. The Steelers mentality is one that I am all for. They expect to compete every year. Yes they have a QB but they went to a Super Bowl with Neil O'Donnell. Even when they are not that good (I don't think that they are very good right now) their expectation is to compete for a title. I am a little over the goal being to get to the playoffs. I realize that it has been a long time but the goal is a championship. I am glad that they are not trying to plug mediocre veterans in with the hopes of a 10-6 record and a wildcard berth. I think that this regime is really only concerned with winning a title and that's a good thing.