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Kirby Jackson

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    So how does Paul Allen own both the Seahawks and the Portland trail blazers?

    B/C there isn't an NFL team in his NBA market. For example Benson owns the Saints & Pelicans but could not own the Saints and Heat. The teams need to be in the same market or in market that doesn't have a team in the league.
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    I suspect several NFL owners can cozy up to a US Senator or two. Nice to have one advocate for our side, though.

     

    GO BILLS!!!

    No doubt, but Schumer is one of the most powerful senators. Any advocate is a good one especially someone of his stature. I've been optimistic (and realistic) about the long term future. The names that you are seeing popping up (Jacobs, Pegula, etc...) are the exact names that you hope to see.
  3. We all know if someone wants to move it, they could buy it and say it would stay as long as the fans support it. They then proceed to make bonehead moves, crappy coach get rid of the good players for over the hill names. Then when attendance plummets they will blame the fans.

     

    This seemed to me to be part of the strategy the Braves used. I was young at the time so I could be wrong. I do remember going from an exciting team with Adrian Dantley and Bob Macadoo to World B Free and an over the hill arthritic Bill Walton and they were just terrible.

     

    That's why I like the Ralph, unless they take the tailgate away from us.

     

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    No one is going to buy the team to tank it. The value of their franchise increases with success. The franchise value of the Cavs went down quite a bit after LeBron left.

     

    We are such a jaded bunch that we honestly wait for the worst to happen and are surprised when it doesn't. A much more likely scenario is someone purchasing the team and trying to win a Super Bowl.

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    I get that but don't you think the NFL has that rule for a reason and just might find out it's been transferred to kin? In addition I'm sure there's all kinds of other issues surrounding just "transferring" around a $250 million business. Part and parcel why Ralph couldn't just sell it wink wink before he passed. These two statements kind of indicate both sides of our argument.

     

    “As long as the family has the ownership of the Bruins, they can’t own anything related to the Bills,” said Wendy Watkins, a Delaware North spokeswoman.

    To which Jacobs’ son, Jeremy Jr., said: “That said, we will do what we can to ensure that the Bills stay in this town.”

    Kroenke did it. There is certainly precedent.
  5. Yeah, he went to Riverside High School. He played in one of the best sporting events that I have ever seen in person when they played against Paul Harris and Johnny Flynn in basketball. NF was like 24-0 & Riverside 22-1 (with a loss to NF). It was a war (Williams actually punched Harris in the back of the head) in the 1st half and got t'd. At any rate it was a great game eventually won by NF but 2 guys ended up playing some in the NBA and 1 in the NFL.
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    I think the groups are about equal. Peterson gives the second group an edge. But that does nothing to change the fact that the generational. game changing backs in the history of the league have all been taken higher in the first round than not. That doesn't mean that lower round picks don't become great players or that 1st round RBs don't bust. It's just that greatness is by and large found at the top.

     

    GO BILLS!!!

    I generally agree. I think that Peteraon, Lynch, Bush and Spiller are about equal with Charles, McCoy, Forte and Murray. The depth of the non 1st rounders is better than the 1st rounders IMO but there are also more to pick from.

     

    I guess the point is if you were to stack 1st round pass rushers, QBs or WR against non 1st round pass rushers, QBs or WR you would see a larger discrepancy (at least intuitively I think that).

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    Yes, RBs can be had anywhere.

     

    RBs like Peterson, Johsnon, Spiller, etc. can't be had just anywhere. You find them in the 1st round and usually higher in the first round. Usually.

     

    GO BILLS!!!

    While I agree in principle, McCoy, Forte, Foster, Charles, Lacy, Rice, Bell (x2), Freddie, Tate, Morris, Stacy, Gore, Pierre Thomas, Bernard, Sproles and Murray are non first rounders.

     

    Peterson, Lynch, Spiller, Stewart, McGahee, Moreno, McFadden, Felix Jones, Dangelo Williams, Bush, CJ2K, and Beanie Wells are the active 1st rounders that I could think of.

     

    Which group is better?

  8. Four seems highly unlikely, but all of the top eight teams other than Atlanta have fairly high need for a QB. I would say four or five of them are or should be desperate for one. Every year, QBs get overdrafted (ponder, tannehill, locker, gabbert, etc). Why should this year be different?

    I don't see more than 2 in the top 8. I thought 3 for a while but leading up to the draft hype on Bortles has cooled some and on Bridgewater quite a bit. At the same time the position players have solidified their places in the top 10. To answer your question, the strength of the top non QBs (Watkins, Evans, Clowney, Robinson, Mack, and Matthews) have QB needy teams trying to grab 1 of them and then go for a Mettenberger type.
  9. The only receiver expendable with the Williams acquisition is Chris Hogan- he serves no logistical purpose on the roster whatsoever. Cutting Stevie (which is a reoccurring theme on TSW) does not offer any cap relief of note (at least for 2014). Woods, Goodwin, and yes even Graham are young with upside. Bardem, Roberson and Kaufman have great size. Easley's special teams work is impressive. And even Elliott showed promise before his injury last preseason. Thusly, if there is a WR that should be jettisoned- it has to be Hogan, who is as useless as teats on a bull.

    But he tries hard....
  10. Yes, and I don't want to bog up this thread with TJ Graham stuff.

     

    TJ Graham has a number of threads about him, and a lot of studies done on his play. Over half the throws made to him were poorly thrown and deemed uncatchable. The other half were seldom that good anyway and not between the numbers or in the zone.

     

     

    http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2014/2/21/5433138/should-the-bills-replace-tj-graham Here you can go view every ball thrown to TJ Graham. Watch how often he was wide open and didn't even get a look because the QB didn't look, didn't have time, didn't take time, didn't try, whatever.

     

    Graham is not horrible.

    Good stuff Jboyst. I am also glad that you did not put my least favorite player as a viable option to make the team. I am waiting for someone to make that case so that I can lose my mind :)
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    Reggie Bush has played with Drew Brees & Calvin Johnson. Spiller has played with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bush was never the #1 option for defenses to stop. You're good poster & I enjoy the debate. But you're severely underestimating the defenses Spiller & Bush face. The #1 thing teams playing the Bills want to take away is the running game. You dare them to beat you with the pass. That's 8 & 9 man fronts. You will get destroy if you do that with Brees & Johnson. Major, major advantage for a running back. And Spiller still has a 5.1 career average.

     

    Spiller is a better pure rb than Bush & I don't think it's really close.

    Its fine we aren't going to agree on everything. Of the 2 players listed (without looking) which do you prefer? I am a little indifferent. I think that either one would help your team in the same manner. I think Spiller is the better runner but not necessarily the better back.
  12. WOW!!! I knew nothing about this kid but after watching highlights in a HUGE FAN!!! This kid can do it all. He's a monster of a runner but has soft hands, really good vision for finding openings, and the power to make a hole when it's not there. The 2 plays at the end of one of the highlight videos I watched were runs of over 50 yards against Illinois and they were a thing of beauty. What round is this kid projected in?

    I am not objective as an OSU fan but I think that he is a rich man's Eddie Lacy. He will most likely be the first RB drafted in the late 1st or early 2nd. He is a complete back though and will be good at the next level.
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    Yup. Honestly I think you slightly overstate how well SP used bush and think he's a big part of the reason guys don't think of him as a good rusher.

     

    Certainly he came up with cool play designs but sometimes I think he shoehorns guys so strongly into roles that it creates predictability and incomplete players that struggle to get into the flow of games. Obviously not all the time as he is a very good offensive mind but I think his playcalling is streaky.

     

    In the case of bush I think he was so worried about creating space and misdirection that despite coming up with cool packages he neglected that Reggie could carry 200 times and "bring the wood" like he did against Arizona.

     

    I think we both think highly of bush though and some others in the discussion think we aren't using the comparison as praise of spiller. I know I am and I'm pretty sure you mean it as a good thing too.

    I certainly mean it as praise. I think that they both fall between Jamal Charles and Chris Johnson (closer to Charles). They have unique skill sets that very few have -the ability to score from anywhere on the field. I am a big fan of Spiller and think that he is our most dynamic weapon. With that being said I try to look at the big picture and if he isn't going to be back here than I would prefer to get value. If my option is sign Chris Johnson and trade up for Clowney vs. keep Spiller and draft Ebron, I pick the former.
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    I'm not sure I understand this point. In 2 out of his 4 years, Spiller has gotten 200 carries. Bush has went over 200 carries 3 times in 8 years. Yet, Bush averages 4.3 ypc for his career while Spiller averages 5.1. So Spiller has been given a bigger workload earlier in his career & averages almost a full ypc higher. He is a better rusher than Bush. And Spiller plays with the best backup rb in the league. And Spiller didn't get to play with Brees or Payton. Spiller is severely underrated on this board.

     

    I am still struggling with this. Reggie had 1,512 yards rushing and receiving last year and 7 TDs. He averaged 5.5 yards per touch. If Spiller had that same year wouldn't we be thrilled? 1,006 on the ground with 223 carries and 506 in the air on 54 catches? Spiller averaged 4.8 yards per touch and had 1,118 yards (933 rushing on 202 carries and 185 receiving on 33 catches) and 2 TDs.

     

    Over the last 3 years (rushing & receiving):

    Player A: 631 touches for 3,651 yards (5.8 yards per touch) & 16 TDs

    Player B: 798 touches for 4,172 yards (5.2 yards per touch) & 22 TDs

     

    One of those players is Spiller and one is Reggie Bush. It's debatable as to which I would pick but they just aren't that different to me.

  15. Spiller is precisely the kind of player whom Jerry Jones would love to acquire - I've always thought so. If there is a deal to be made, it's very likely with the Cowboys. I could also see the Falcons going for him. Considering he's a running back and he's in a contract year, make the trade if you can get a high pick or two in return.

    The Saints make the most sense to me. Their window is small and Payton has had great success with Bush and later Sproles. They have a lot of confidence in Khiry Robinson but if given the chance to acquire Spiller I would think that they would jump at it. Payton would use him exactly as he should be used.
  16. You think we give them Spiller and get their draft spot? Is this a joke? "We could take any of these possibly franchise changing QBs but the Bills would give us Spiller, you know, that 4 year RB who had one descent year and also is somewhat injury prone"

     

    Maybe we can get Jacksonvilles 3rd round pick for Spiller, maybe.

    I think that he is saying Spiller and the 9th pick for 3.
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    Dallas just had two in Demarco Murray and Felix Jones. How about Forsett and Williams in Carolina?

    I wouldn't say Williams is in that mold but Dallas is a good call. I think that both of those guys run like that. As soon as Murray emerged though Jones was gone. There aren't many examples as most teams try to build with complimentary skill sets. FJax is the complete back, Dixon the power guy and Spiller the speed back. Who knows what the plan is but based on the CJ2K rumors and the number of RBs in for pre draft visits they have to be considering one.
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