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Have none of you heard of instacart pick up orders?! This is the way.

@gonzo1105 @KOKBILLS @GunnerBill Thoughts on Josiah Stewart ? Any chance this guy is available in RD4? From what I’ve seen he looks dynamic as a rusher but notable concerns are that he’d be limited to passing downs. Clearly the bills visit means they wanted to know more. I don’t think RD2 is a possibility and we don’t have a 3rd, so what was their intention in the meeting?

Pair this with Beane’s track record for targeting and moving up for his guy in the early rounds…it’s best to have more chances to hit. They should be able to find 3 starters in the first two rounds of this draft.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Cap dump

“I’m going to break the record” lol 4.39

Surprised beane didn’t meet with Harmon yet

Surprised by both Shemar Stewart and Landon Jackson. Both guys both dropped significant weight and showed up well in the testing. I am still hesitant on Jackson as he seems so stiff to me. I still think he fits best in a 3-4 role. Although his 40 was good, his 10 yard split was not great. So he is a powerful athlete, but not twitchy or bendy in a way that I think will help him win in other ways than with power. IIRC @gonzo1105 had him at 30 in his mock. I am still weary of his ability to hold up as a run defender. Hes also had years of college experience and seems overall well developed as a rusher. Given his stature limitations and the fact he’s played 4 years of college ball, is he a high floor lower ceiling pick?

Meteoric fall to 30? LFG

This surprises and concerns me. Feels like an unnatural scheme fit here. There is no chance they take a guy like this at 30…right? …but if he falls to the 50s then his well rounded ability and versatility might be too good to pass up

Toppings

My thinking on this was Mike Evans, a much more decorated receiver of similar age and statue, just got 20 mil/year last offseason. Rising cap, rookie QB deal for DEN, you never know

Even though he will be 30 early next season? Surprises me to think someone would pay that much on the wrong side of 30 for a bigger bodied guy who isn’t exactly a burner: they have a history of not holding up well vs Father Time

I’m super curious to see the intricacies of this deal. I want to see how the money is structured. Hoping guys like @BarleyNY will be able to add a little more insight into how the specifics of this deal might play into what we could expect in terms of how aggressive the front office will be with slinging around cash this free agency. Huge signing bonus spread out over the next 5 years? Right. FA in 2030

Can you blame her?

On field workouts are: Thursday (DL and LBs) Friday (DBs and TEs) Saturday (QBs, WRs and RBs)

I’d prefer separate threads for each positional group/days, so info and commentary isn’t completely buried and is accessible if you jump in late. (totally for selfish reasons)

Any chance Tennessee is in on this?

FWIW, NFL draft buzz has him graded out as slightly above Rome Odunze, but below Nabers…so he would have been WR3 on their board.

Wonder if a guy like Azeez Ojulari could be had to help amp up the pass rush, or if they like Solomon enough in that “rush specialist” role we saw Von in this last year. Giants connection. Minimal deal. Injury risks but high upside and ability to get to the passer in 2nd/3rd and longs

8 years come October for me. Guess we have some ground to make up. The older you get, the shorter the life sentence becomes. Life in prison has a whole new ring to it when you only have so many left anyways!

The Y is usually reserved to reference a TE. If you’re looking at a move piece for a WR, you’re looking at the Z (Cooper/Hollins) out of 21 or the H (Shakir/Samuel). The labels aren’t as important as the skill set the the players possess. For example you could see Samuel as the H, Z or A….because he can be versatile in formation and usage. But all of these positions have one thing in common: they are move positions. You can get a free release out of these looks. The X needs to be able to win at the LOS. And Coleman had a lot of trouble doing this. So I think your evaluation of the roster is a bit upside down (unless Coleman improves): we have a few guys who can play the off-the-ball move receiver, but no one who can really dominate on the outside without needing motion or formation to help.

No I didn’t say that. I said I think he took who he perceived to be the best remaining pass catcher, because the whole world knew we needed help at WR. Now you’re stuck with a TE who despite being praised as being a great pass catcher, isn’t a boundary WR player. He tried to fit a square peg into a round hole. What he should have done, is not allow the need for pass catcher to overshadow the fact that there could have been better talent available at other positions, instead of feeling pressured to address it.

If you want to dismiss DeJean as an example that’s your own business but the larger point is that need is driving those choices. Again look at 2023 when the Bills took Kincaid as it clear we needed WR help. Immediately before our pick a WR run of JSN, Q Johnston, Flowers, Addison led Beane to picking the next best thing which was Kincaid as a pass catcher who as you’ve heard Beane try to do, pass him off as a semi-WR with his 11.5 personnel suggestion. I won’t even sit and say “he should have instead taken…” as that’s an unfair revisionist perspective. What you can state however is that he forced the issue likely overdrafting a player who he tried to peg into a need that didn’t fit. We see this again with Coleman in 2024 IMO as well.

Respectfully disagree. Revisionist history indeed, yet this is the problem: You cannot allow your current roster status to steer you into making or not making selections of players who are thought to be elite, especially at premier positions. Looking at a roster, you might think “what do I need this player for” is keeping you from bringing in high quality talent at cost controlled prices. You think it’s silly to imagine why would they have done this, but why wouldn’t they have done this? Look how it all shook out: Injury concerns at safety, Benford knocked out of AFCCG, Douglas in a contract year, Elam a known bust, and it would have been an excellent chess piece to harness. We’d be sitting here today with one less question mark at a position. Yes instead we have people thinking we need WR, DB and DL help…which is ironically the exact same top three picks that were made positionally last year. DeJean in the fold would have at least given us one answer. My major concession here is as you stated , he went #40!!! Beane is not the only GM victim to error and woulda coulda shouldas