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Yup and 260 pass attempts in 6 preaseasons Practiced for and suited up for 8 playoff games, including 1 Super Bowl 6 years of OTAs, camps, reading playbooks, meetings, film, running scout teams Either suited up as backup or played in 94 regular season, 21 preseason and 8 playoff games and people want to say but but but he's really only going into his 3rd year. No! Gimme a break

It was 86 in 4th qtr last year. Ok I guess but needs to be better. Some others completely random Prescott 106.4 Stafford 86.1 Ryan 97 Bortles 82.9 Osweilier 83.5 Rodgers 114.4 Dalton 78.7 Luck 107.5 Tannehill 92.3 Siemian 101.9

Don't know why 2000 is your cut off but here goes. 2000 Bulger 6th 2000 Brady 6th 2004 Romo FA 2005 Fitzpatrick 7th 2005 Cassel 7th 2005 D Anderson 6th 2011 Taylor 6th 2015 Seimien 7th Threw in a couple decent 4th rounders as I consider 4th round bottom half of draft. 1999 A Brooks 4th 2002 Garrard 4th 2005 Orton 4th 2012 Cousins 4th 2016 Prescott 4th Also went back further than 2000 to 1993(at work didn't have any more time to go back further) 1998 Warner FA 1998 M Hasselbeck 6th 1994 Frerotte 7th 1994 Garcia FA 1993 Grbac 8th 1993 T Green 8th 1993 Brunell 5th They're out there, they just have to be found. Some found Peterman to be a 3rd rounder that was "stolen" in the 5th by the Bills. I didn't look for 3rd rounders, like Peterman was projected, but i'm sure there are some that have had good careers. It's not out of the question that he could come in and be good right out of the box. Narrow minded thinking if you think he can't.

Lol, ok, cause I didn't cut and paste your quote from your #145 reply in this thread or nothing. Whatever!

Did you or did you not say "All we have to go on is the statistics that are available, and they show that Tryod was actually pretty good." Most of his "statatistics" say otherwise. According to your measurement.

Whatever, you said evaluate by stats, since those stats don't paint the right picture for you, you dismiss them.

I guess so if you consider, what 30th, 31st, 29th or whatever it was in passing as good. Like you said, just going by stats right!

Tyrod was a 6th round pick in 2011, not talking about Brady.

But having that 6th rounder start the last two years does. Had to be because of the QB. He tried to step them up from pop warner but the QB couldn't handle it so Roman got fired.

Ahhh...some here have said Peterman is another Reich but Tyrod is no Kelly and Reich was not as good as Kelly but better than Tyrod. Hmmm...

Doesn't change the fact that whoever suited up for the Bills at WR was still open and open often. Just because it wasn't Sammy out there isn't an excuse to not throw the ball to the open WR. Lame excuses but keep trying!

Same old tired useless excuse. Didn't matter one bit who suited up and lined up at WR for the Bills as they were open a lot. So even though they were open but because they were "arena league players" is the reason Tyrod didn't throw them the ball. Whatever, lame excuse!

no

Would there not be YAC if he throws to open guys?

Those same plays that had WR and TE running free all over the field week in and week out? Those plays?

this is funny

and a whole ton of media have said this same thing.

Hahahaha, damage control because they drafted a very accurate passer in Peterman. Nervous I see!

Yeah, their all respected around the league. Not arguing it wasn't overdue but soooo much power so soon. Resume is kinda thin, first time head coach, when ever has a first time head coach been given so much authority?

Or McDermott was going to stop at nothing until he got everything he wanted. TPegs seems a bit gullible and maybe McDermott fed on that and threw everyone under the bus. To give a newbie so much so soon sure seems odd. I dunno just a thought.

Yup, I would say Peyton Mannings arm strength was pretty weak his last 4-5 years. He beat everybody with his brain. He is?

Doubtful any experienced ones will be.