Well he has more wins than the Great Jim Kelly did after his first two NFL seasons. I know one was strike shortened for Kelly but he would have had to win three more games to match what Newton has done his first two. As far as maturity level, Kelly yelled at his teammates often and was hated by many including Thurman. This is after he had played in professional football much longer. Funny how white QBs that are fiery are just "gamers" but someone like Newton is a punk or gangster. He celebrated a TD down by a lot to the Giants, and he learned not to do it again. Actually, the only other game he was blown out in was Denver, so your whole take there is done. The guy got killed today playing behind a make shift line and got tapped up and came back in. Let's hold judgement on a guy that has had one real training camp on a team that was 2-14 when he took over.