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No doubt. How many game time changes happened league wide this year? I'm curious how other markets responded.

I don't even have to click the link to know what that one is... edit: aw hell, I just had to... I love that one!

Still following me around, eh? Are you Vonnegut's dog or something? I'm glad you are able to lead a happy and productive life, and at the same time act as a fully functional internet troll. Bravo!

So with Coughlin getting his extension, we have the Raiders, Pittsburg, and Miami left, right?

I'm willing to bet tthe October storm had a small part to play as well. I'm sure that chewed up some discretionary income as well as free time for a lot of residents. Plus, considering the amount of cleanup still left for a lot of people, I wouldn't be surprised if many spent their December weekends taking advantage of mild weather to finish cleaning up. I know I did (but then again I went to 2 of the four blacked out games).

What are you doing Vonnegut, following me around? I expect that type of behavoir from a golden retriever. I'm not the one going into every thread someone posts in to bring up arguments from other threads that have been locked. That's generally accepted as trollish behavoir.

Nobody circles the wagons....

Is that an arguement from authority that I smell? So it is your logical conclusion that someone who has been on a message board almost every day cannot be a troll interesting conclusion. Interesting... I will take your word on the the fact you have "been here most every day for 9-10 years" and instead come to a different conclusion: You have no life.

He tried to push it, but it's so close to the "troll" button.

I don't really care what beef you do or do not have with other member. I'm challenging you to refute a conclusion. Can you do it? You say you can, but I'd like to see it. Hell, I'd be happy just to see if you can use the "shift" key once in a while. I mean I totally understand that since you don't have time for capitalization, you certainly couldn't be bothered to make a logical arguement. So here you go Ramius, can you actually provide a counter point, or will your responses continue to be nothing more than smiley faces, insults, and poor grammar?

And yet here you are keeping it on life support...

If you feel the need to discuss this, why not take it to a thread where it's on topic? I'll be happy to debate you there instead of derailing this thread.

I haven't seen anything saying he was selected. He did interview today and spoke with the media after the interview. Edit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070105/ap_on_...cardinals_coach

Nice try (I'll give you credit for at least trying to hide your attempt at an insult by burying it in a poor logical equivalent). Where this fails to demonstrate a similar pattern of logic is that you fail to clearly define the subject in terms of "giving" and "given" using an ambiguous subject as the point of the argument. There is no question as to the subject of who is being moved or to where they are moving in Willis' statements. Again though, nice try. Any other takers?

Settle down Francis... If you were hoping to "be done arguing this 3 pages ago" why are you still posting? It would seem that I'm not the one having an issue with logic. At any rate, I'm still waiting for Ramius or you to actually pose a counterpoint. Or, at the very least, discredit or disprove one or more of the premises used to formulate my conclusion. Instead you both have resorted to an arguement ad nauseam approach, which serves no purpose other than to flood this thread with more meaningless text. Demonstrate what is out of context rather than just saying "omfg out of context" and we might actually have something that resembles a proper discussion on our hands. Otherwise, I would suggest that you take a dose of your own medicine and "drop it".

You can comprehend that my arguement is stupid, but you can't exlpain why, huh? I'm still waiting for someone to refute it. Simply saying "duh yer a dummy leik that other guy" is insufficient. I can at least agree with Dankenstein, that there is potential to say that the definitions could be debated, but that can be said for nearly any arguement. Dank, I don't know that I'm reading too much into it, as the logical premises are not contrived from his statement, they ARE his statements. You (Ramius), on the other hand just seem to not like what I am saying, and trying to articulate that feeling is apparently hurting your brain. If I don't understand something you type it will likely be due to an inability to communcate your thoughts correctly. So please, go ahead and try Ramius. Let's see what you have up your sleeve. And then once you have enlightened us all with your intellect, you can laugh at me, sitting here with a furrowed brow, sweating trying to comprehend the genius that is sure to be your next post.

Like I told DrDankenStein, can you refute the logic? I'm guessing since you responded with misspellings and insults that you cannot.

Well why don't you tell me where I came to the wrong conclusion as opposed to trying to argue with a one-liner? I bet you can't. Here is the quote: "When asked about the possibility of an NFL team in Toronto, McGahee said, "That would be a good situation. Toronto is a beautiful place. But if they're going to put a team there, they should just bring the Buffalo Bills to Toronto. Case closed." 1. "That would be a good situation." - A response to the question regarding the possibility of a team in Toronto. You with me so far? (I bet I would have lost Willis right there). 2. "But if they're going to put a team there, they should just bring the Buffalo Bills to Toronto. Case closed" If there is going to be a NFL team in Toronto, Willis has stated that it should be the Buffalo Bills. So, what we have is this: According to Willis, an NFL team going to Toronto would be "good". If a team goes to Toronto, it should be the Bills. Therefore, the Bills going to Toronto would be good. Does that clear things up for you?

Funny, I'm willing to bet if you asked LT who is the best RB in the league, he would give you a response that is a bit more classy. And why do you assume that I hate Willis? He is a retard, but I don't hate him. I just simply feel that between being a moron (not knowing down and distance, not knowing how to use a condom, saying things that anyone with half a brain would know to be inflamatory, at least in the eyes of fans and possibly ownership), having some character flaws (unless you can defend someone fathering 3 kids with three different women as an intelligent individual with a strong character), and being a mediocre football player (5 TD"s last year in 16 games, 6 this year in 14), that it's no surprise that people don't want him around anymore. Why is that so hard to understand? Edit: And for those of you arguing that Willis didn't say the Bills should move, I'm sorry but you are wrong. He actually did. Granted it was predicated on Toronto getting an NFL frnachise, but he did say it. Logically, it looks like this: A Toronto NFL Team = good situation. If (Toronto gets an NFL team) Then (The Bills should move to Toronto). In other words, the Bills moving to Toronto is good, according to Willis.

I highly doubt our "mensa" candidate is able to think quite so clearly. If you think those of us who are upset with the quote are reading too much into it, the same could be said for your response. I doubt practicality was his reasoning behind the statement. More than likely his thought process was something like this: "Damn there be some fly b*tches up there in Canada.. hells yeah the Bills should go there..."

Don't get me wrong, I actually prefer Penthouse to Playboy, but I bet Playboy wouldn't bother to interview Willis. And I don't care what he said before or after the fact. Saying the Bills should move is retarded. Having 3 babies out of wedlock with 3 different mothers is retarded. Saying you are the leagues best RB, also retarded. Saying you didn't know what down it was and then backtracking by saying it was a joke is retarded. Anyone detecting a trend with Willis?

Ahh yes, Penthouse. The home of 2nd rate nude models is now also home to 2nd rate running backs.

I like Obama for one big reason... Obama != Hillary

Ah yes, I probably should have included that.... But yeah, you are right on the money. The guys in Iron Priest perfer "Tribute" and Big Balls refer's to itself as an AC/DC "rip-off" band. I could care less. I get paid to do what I already do at home for free!

So when KRC and Crap throwing monkey defend Islam until they are blue in the face, I can now assume it's part of a jihad? Awesome. Seriously though, I think the interweb is gonna be the downfall of the islamic extremists. There will be too many voices and it will cause them to splinter. Plus, countermeasures can be used to put out false jihadist material. I mean, the DoD could have very well released this software in hopes that these sh*t heads will actually use it to transmit secure messages that our govt. can easily intercept.