Wayne Arnold

In other news, according to Michael Silver McDermott is the real General Manager and Brandon Beane does nothing but serve coffee.

Patriots pay too much for that secondary to be toasted like that

Gillislee is a decent player but look what team he's on. Everyone in this thread could have scored those two touchdowns.

Michael Ola? More like Michael Adios. Amirite?

Rex said Hogan was their best receiver (yes, better than Sammy and Woods) and Ragland was our best player. The dope is the ultimate revisionist historian.

You get more value by trading "talented guys on their first contracts". That's how we got a 2nd and 3rd rounder in addition to a new starting wide receiver. It was a no-brainer to trade Darby for what we were offered. Rex said it best recently: "You're playing in a defense and you got a corner without any deep ball skills, that's one reason probably Ron Darby's not there. It's hard, in that type of system you want a guy with some ball skills and Darby's a 'man-under' type of corner, he doesn't necessarily have the ball skills down the field, so I can see that move happening." Sammy was more difficult, you can tell McDermott wasn't crazy about it but they made the decision that they weren't going to spend what it would have taken to retain Sammy beyond 2017 so why not get what you can for him?

Actually that's exactly how to do it.

Like when EJ Manuel wasn't voted team captain going into the 2014 season.

Well, one of our insiders on this message board constantly referred to Watkins as 'Samantha' fwiw. That combined with his injury history and the tendency of the current front office / coaching staff to not dedicate a large portion of the salary cap to one wide receiver and it's obvious that they wanted to get something for him before his career in Buffalo had ended. Bill Belichick's first two seasons in New England (2000, 2001) as well.

Read it again. "Visited." Past tense. In that he already visited. And the Bills signed Thornton instead.

Yeah, right. The coach is immediately on the 'hot seat' and has a stain on him for as long as he lasts in the job.

Couldn't have happened to a bigger douche bag.

You honestly think these guys are the reason the Bills haven't been successful over the years? Kyle Williams is the one holding the franchise back?

I'm willing to take my chances...

If I had one wish, it would be the ability to warg into Dareus during a game between Bills and Patriots and pile-driver Brady with all 330 pounds of Dareus' weight into the ground and just end it once and for freakin' all.

So you're saying Shady should be the specials teams captain even though he doesn't play special teams? Interesting take...

The cap situation (due to garbage contracts like Dareus received, for example) prevented this team from giving Sammy the whopping contract extension that he would have demanded after this season. Therefore, 2017 was undoubtedly going to be his last season in Buffalo. What would be the point of turning down a 2nd round pick to keep him on the team solely for this season? Was this team in position to win the Super Bowl even if Sammy was 100% healthy the entire season (which has never happened in his career, btw)? As for the popular notion "the season is over now that Sammy is gone" - what was Buffalo's record in 2016 with Sammy vs. without him?

The current front office didn't create this hole. The previous one did. So in order to be successful, this front office and coaching staff are going to have to draft well? Exactly.

By giving the young guys role models within the locker room to show them the way. These guys also happen to be the best players on the team. No, they have not "devastated" the young talent on the team. That's ridiculous and more drama queen ranting.

You'd still have 53 players on the roster who are thinking, "What the hell am I doing here?" Each player who is naturally competitive and enjoys the pursuit of winning would certainly care. I really doubt the Jets locker room is a great place to be right now and a breeding ground of a championship attitude. And if you really believe that "it doesn't matter what the fans think" then I'm afraid you haven't a clue.

Tolbert is dirt cheap, making the veteran minimum, so spare us the money angle. Tolbert can do more things than Williams. McDermott has stressed versatility in his press conferences. Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's the wrong decision.

People continue to overrate draft position with regard to landing a franchise quarterback. If we've learned anything over the decades, it's that no one can predict how a quarterback performs in the NFL. It's a complete and utter crap shoot. So be as good as you can be this season and use both first-round picks on quarterbacks even if they're only the third and fourth best in the class. Because no one really knows. Then let those two and Peterman battle it out throughout the entire 2018 offseason and preseason and pick one. If he's successful, trade the other one.

The opportunity to tank left the building when Rex was fired. You aren't going to intentionally tank a season in the first year of the head coach who you want to be here for a long time. That would leave everyone with a bad taste in their mouths - players and fans alike. I can't believe this is so hard for so many to grasp. It's obvious that this team is rebuilding (only six drafted players remain from the previous front office) while simultaneously leaving the foundation of veteran leadership (Kyle, Lorenzo, Wood, Shady, Tolbert, Dimarco, Incognito, Ducasse, etc.) who all fit the criteria of what Beane and McDermott want to establish within the organization. Since when does a team have to tank in order to rebuild? Can you honestly establish a winning culture by purposely trying to lose in Year #1?