harv shitz

totally agree.

What are you saying?

You couldn't be more accurate, Redneck.

Why are you pitting the two against each other? Peterman made two critical throws in the snow that TT wouldn't have even considered. And, ponder this: Had the Dolphins cashed in on the final drive and won last week, the four points TT left on the field missing a wide open O'Leary would have been the difference. I don't see how some of you morons think he is a good quarterback. He misses way too many plays. And, I know, I know, he doesn't turn it over. I wouldn't turn it over, either, if I only threw it if a guys was open by 20 yards.

Yes, his 140 ypg passing paved the way! We didn't get there because of him, we got there in SPITE of him! Get off the rookies, ass, by the way, you have no idea what he is capable of! If you think TT is gonna get you anywhere, you know nothing of what you are watching.

Or cut...........

Absolutely! I think that McD and Beane feel the same way, but, of course, could never admit it publicly.

No kidding. We need better play from that position, I don't care what anyone says.

Wilson had over 32 touchdown passes, and only 11 or so picks. He is lightyears better than Taylor. We did not get to playoffs because of Taylor, we got there in spite of him. With even average qb play, like 15-18th in passing, we could have a shot. And the WR argument is tiresome, he has some pretty good talent there. He simply isn't good enough.

You are so full of B.S.! And James had more than completed the catch! You A-hole Chowd fans always have an excuse! And, in my vast experience, most of you asshats don't know the first thing about the game! You're such a huge fan? Tell me who Randy Vataha was, or Sam Cunningham? Oh, yeah, you will google it! Go screw yourself, and the cheating lickwad team you cheer for! I don't know who incenses me more, the team, or the F-ing morons who cheer for them!

I have seen them get unbelieveable breaks way too many times in the last 20 years, starting with "just give it to 'em," tuck rule game, countless pick plays and push offs by Gronk, pass rushers jerseys stretching 2 feet off their body while being held or tackled, to all the calls this year! You will no way convince me that they are getting favoritism, and the douche that is overturning these calls needs to seriously be investigated! If they played by the same rules as the other teams, the so called GOATS would be much more average. Oh, not to mention the phantom "illegal contact" calls they get on critical 3rd downs to keep a drive alive!

Miami definitely got their share of shady calls back then, kinda like the Patsys do now! I don't, however, think it was anywhere what N.E. has benefited from the last few years, especially this year! Without officials help, they could have 4 more losses, and we could be fighting for the division this week.

EXACTLY how I feel!

exactly spot on! I remember Andre Reed going crazy on the sideline, after the game, he said as the two zebras conferred, one said to the other, "just give it to 'em." Kinda when all the crap in New England started, moved onward with the tuck rule game. God I hate those cheating pricks!

He is the 33rd ranked passer in a 32 team league, and he has amassed a whopping 9 points in 7 quarters against the Patriots! What else do you need to know? What's more tiresome than him being bashed is idiots who actually think he's GOOD! I have watched this team for 45 years, and he is easily in the bottom two or three quarterbacks we have ever had! An even decent quarterback would have beaten the Panthers, possibly the Jets on the road, and would have really made the home game with the Patsys interesting, to say the least. I can't wait until he is gone, I have seen more than enough, was done with him last year. Tyrod played like Goff? When? Where? for a series, maybe. You are dilusional, dude! The team is where they are this year IN SPITE OF TAYLOR, not because of him! I get it's been a long time since we have had a good quarterback here, but do you watch any other teams, and see what it is like to have a QB throw on time, in rhythm, throw a WR open, go through progressions? To compare Taylor to Goff is the funniest thing I have seen in quite some time! Thanks for the laugh, I needed it!

100% spot on observation! Taylor cost us the Panthers game, the Jets game, the Pats game last week was very winnable, but, they wouldn't have beat Orchard Park High School with TT's 60 yards passing. The Saints game? Who knows. He was so rotten that it's hard to tell what may have played out with even marginally good QB play.

I was still pretty young, 10 or 11, When Gary Marangi played. What your father said brings back a lot of memories. I remember the debate about the two, Marangi and Ferguson, and remember when Fergy struggled, there was a lot of people calling for Marangi. Marangi did have some very good games, as did Fergy. Personally, I always thought Fergy was a great quarterback, but was saddled with piss poor coaching pretty much the whole time he was here, until the end when Chuck Knox came to town. Hard for me to pick a top five, as in 45 years of watching this team, I remember two good ones: Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson. I remember some god awful ones: Joe Dufek, Vince Ferregamo, Billy Joe Hobert, to mention a few.

Sorry, Dennison.

I hope he's gone as soon as the last game is over.

If you think Tyrod is even a decent NFL quarterback, you have no idea what you are watching! His limitations so far outweigh any strengths he has, it's almost laughable. Sure, he can run/scramble, that's it. 1. Won't throw a guy out of a break. 2. Wont' give WR any chance to make a play unless he's wide open. 3. Accuracy down field is poor, look at O'Leary pass late last week. 4. Weak at reading defenses. 5. Poor pocket presence. 6. Holds ball way to long. We were lucky to win last week, nothing, NOTHING to do with his 188 yards passing. He cost us the game at Carolina, refused to throw the damn ball to anyone other than McCoy. A true quarterback has an attitude, fire, like Kelly had. He, has none of it. A great athlete, seems like a great guy, but if they bring him back next year, my 45 years of supporting this team are over. Two decades of pure horshot quarterback play has worn me out.

All of that is fair. Nothing but speculative, now, sadly. I was thinking the first few weeks we were heading in the right direction. Now, I don't know what to think......

Haven't seen this, sorry. Haven't spent a lot of time on here. Very true. And, given the fact he woudn't have made any move on a quarterback, either, we would likely be right where we are now, irregardless who is coaching.

Haven't seen this brought up, but, after watching the Chargers kick the Cowboys asses, and the way the ran through/over the Bills last week, does anyone kinda wonder if Pegula should have kept Anthony Lynn as HC?

It is apparent to me, that most, if not all of us, agree, that we need a new quarterback? Does anyone actually want Taylor back next year?

All that is likely true. However, it was Petermans very first start. Taylor has started nearly 40 games now, and, in my, and many others opinions, has regressed. This is all irrelevant, as this team is going nowhere now. It was another off season where we stood status quo on the quarterback, when it was more than obvious what we had was no where near good enough, yet, we failed to address it again.