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Had to quote this because it obviously flew right over a lot of heads out there...

I used to be one that backed an amendment calling for a balanced budget, but I realize it's totally unnecessary because such limits are already in there, yet, they still work around it.... There are limits on debt, forcing them to vote on an increase in the size of the debt, and I'm tired of watching these soap operas they've become... Take THAT away, and call for a peoples referendum to any debt increase that includes what it is for, and what plan to repay that increase...

I'm not a dovetail, but I feel I know them well enough to answer this.... A dovetail will only question whether your hiding something by going into the process half blind... Whether you will go all the way, and through with your dovetail... Or if you'll get stuck and have to box your tails....

How funny, cause i was thinking about how ridiculous it was to mention San Fransisco and Kentucky in the same article...

But Ox... it wasn't a gaff at all, but a strategic political move to ensure people would still talk about Obama this year... If it weren't for this, what else could anyone post in support of him??? Pure genius!!!!

from the OP.... "Americans, whether in San Francisco or in Kentucky, generally conceive of ourselves as all living in one country. We act either on behalf of narrow personally selfish claims or else broad idealistic concerns about what’s right and proper for the country as a whole." no... no we don't any longer consider ourselves living in one country, and our "narrow personally selfish claims" are fed, and stocked by the federal powers that capitalize on this dissension...

Excellent!!! To plagiarize a movie, "build it, and they will come!" Ha!!! But don't sell yourself short. Obviously your not gonna get 300 a pen, but darn, don't they make great gifts?? Have you tried laminating up some stock yet for turning? Since you have some walnut, try gluing it up with some maple for instance, and blend the 2 together in you turnings. They don't have to be even, in fact, it's best if they aren't, but 2 contrasting woods make that pen jumping off!!! Dovetails? Did you use a jig, or cut them by hand? Through, box, 1/2 blind?

agreed... and now I'm all the more dumber for actually clicking on the link.... I guess it's a good thing Noak had over a hundred years to build and load...

then I guess the answer to his question is "yes"... Typical...

had to edit for the win!!!

Nah Koko, at least on the other board when libs started a thread, there was substance, and they actually made an attempt to argue the point... Well, other than a couple we won't bother to mention. Here, when we see a lib post, it's usually followed with another ignorant response, or, my favorite I saw in another thread, "it's my thread, I'll ask the questions".... Whew!!!! IQ non-existent is what I've been seeing on some of these threads... Where have our lib fellow lib friends/refugees gone??? Maybe this board is too hard??

Cool!!! As a professional for over 25 years before this job, I think it's great when people take to it as a hobby and are good at it... Guess it's a guy thing, returning to your roots sort of. For me, I was pretty much born into it, with woodworking and DIY a way of life on both sides of my family. And believe me.... I know the wife thing as mine can be my own unbiased critic!! YES!!! Folks used to ask me why I did woodwork for a living since I had my college degree. I tried sitting behind a desk after college, and just wasn't ready for it. With this job even, yeah, I have a desk, but I'm rarely behind it, always out getting my hands dirty so to speak, and being able to look back at something at the end of the day, besides a pile of paperwork..

Do you have a specialty or a passion?? Is it your living, or a hobby? Just curious...

Stanley Black and Decker used to own Delta/Porter Cable, but sold Delta to Chang Type Industrial out of Taiwan. However, they kept Porter Cable... Powermatic I believe is a part of WMI along with Jet and are at least American based as is S,B&D...

My point was that to be labeled "Made in America" for a lot of products, is nearly impossible due to the requirements... As for a true "Made in America" table saw, the best one out there right now is the new Delta Unisaw! And no, I don't work for Delta but have worked closely with them in the past and know the tools better than most that work there now... Even the motor on it, made by Marathon, is certified "Made in America" which was a feat in itself because when Delta approached them initially about it, they had no idea where the raw materials originated, and it took a couple years just to sort that part out. I've had the chance to work with one, and I'm tellin' ya, it is an amazing machine, and the one piece trunnion an engineering marvel... If ya google it, I'm sure you can find the video of Scott Phillips demonstrating it and if you can't, PM me and I'll send ya one... Anyway, I deal more with the use and repair myself, than the development but love what I do!! As for the job... Who knows??? Right now, there are 2 of us who basically hold the department together, and things are going so well, there is no hurry from upstairs to make the decision, so I'll just keep doing what i do best... teach about tools... Edit to add.... Even though the Uni is MinA, Delta itself was just bought out by a Taiwanese company about a year ago...

B... luv ya bro, but the above is a truly ignorant statement. You know I'm in the tool industry, so let me explain what it takes to make a tool that by law, can say "Made in America"... Short version... The tool can not be simply assembled in America, but every part of that tool MUST be certifiable that even the raw materials, plastics the oil they are made from, must originate here. Copper and other metals must be mined here. Lithium, if it has batteries, must be mined here. And each and every part of that acquirement, refining, production, and assembly, has to be done here, surrounded by all the federal regulations involved every step of the way... Is it any wonder it's much easier to find a pair of socks that say "Made in America" than it is most other products?? It's not only the "cheap labor" people harp so much on involved here... I can find raw materials from all over the world, ship them to Mexico, China, EVEN the United Kingdom and Germany!!! And simply put made in that country on the label, without all the regulations, and stipulations involved with "Made in America" and lower manufacturing cost dramatically... Just my two cents....

from the chinese???

Semper Fi!! Apparently a lot of Marines on here!! VMA-231 outa Cherry Pt '76-'80...

Somehow, I think you might underestimate Wyo... This board is going to be so much fun since even she can let it all out!!! Ha!!!

Adam??? Adam Smith??? Is that you?? Basic economics is not something our powers that be care about anymore.. Keynes did his best to destroy any semblance of economic stability, only calling for government interference in a natural swing in economic policy..

Squirrell!!!! What would our world be without you!!! Ha!!!! Well goes to show, if we're not enough to baffle you with wisdom, we can certainly win by shear numbers!!!

I'll take that bet!!!! If you can ever find his grades in school even, I'll be happy to go beer for beer... I say his intelligence is average at best. and I feel I'm being kind by thinking he might be average...

I'm not Koko, but I do believe he is referring to politicians as a whole. It just so happens that Dems are in power now, and the worst offenders historically...

I know.... and by a recent poll I just made up, but is certainly real, an overwhelming majority of people are claiming they did not vote for PBO...

A point??? I thought this was a welcome thread.... so excuse the F*** out of me!!!!