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I said….before you change the premise….. I didn’t say that you did. yeah…..Jordan love caused them to improve. Die on that hill. Please. I’m stuck arguing that Jordan Love was a terrible pick and they may have won a super bowl if they had drafted someone else. Do you have a packer friends? I do. We discuss this multiple times per year. They agree with me 💯. Most people agree that drafting Jordan Love is a debacle. But die on the hill that Jordan Love made the packers offense better. You’re insufferable…… I said that someone else MAY have made a play. MAY have made a difference. Why is that so hard to understand? You’re saying that Tee Higgins WOULDN’T have made a difference…..,you don’t see how what you and I saying are completely different? I’m not claiming ANYTHING to be true. I’m saying anything definitively. You are. BIG difference. it was fun. Jordan love. Great pick. ✌️

Because WEO and I have discussed it since it happened. you can defend whatever you want. Analytics shows that drafting QBs with a first rd pick is the smartest use of a first rd pick. As a team that I thought was very close to winning a super bowl, I thought they should be going all in to help AR win another SB. Instead, they drafted his potential replacement. Worked out well. Number 1 seed 2 years in a row. Two losses in one possession games. Games where all it takes is one play to change the result. Jordan Love contributed nothing and they lost. They MAY have one a super bowl if they would have used the pick elsewhere.

You have no idea what Tre Higgins or any other player would do. In a one possession game, all it takes in ONE play. A first rd pick is capable of starting and making one big play. But you can pretend to have a magic crystal ball. We aren’t pretending to know anything other than the packers made a bad pick that MAY HAVE prevented them from winning a super bowl. While you LITERALLY MAKE STUFF UP. to try and prove a point. cole strange wasn’t on anyone boards as a first rd pick. Yet he was picked in rd 1. EVERY year, there a handful of guys taken in rd one that were projected by most to go rd 2.

You have no clue what it prevented them from doing…..THAT’S the point. We KNOW, for a FACT, that the packers didn’t win either of the last 2 Super Bowls after wasting draft picks on Jordan Love. We aren’t saying that they absolutely would have won a super bowl if they had drafted someone that would have actually contributed……we’re saying that they might have. They were a top team both seasons. Both of those seasons ended in a one possession game. Don’t pretend like you KNOW they wouldn’t have won a SB if they drafted someone else. You don’t. But continue pretending. again…..before you change the premise…. We aren’t saying they would have won a SB….we’re saying that is possible that they may have. The only thing that we KNOW….. after two season…..is that drafting Jordan Love was a bad pick for a team focused on winning a super bowl. You disagreed at the time…… because you said the packers weren’t that good and we’re pretenders….. not contenders. But you were wrong. Yet again I’ll be the first to say that allen is better than Rodgers….but Rodgers played a very good niner defense in 1 degree weather. I’m sure you can use other examples other than “their last game”.

But which Wr would we have taken in rd 2 over cook? The 2nd rd run on WRs crushed any hope of a 2nd rd wr imo. I had Shakir as the top rated WR when we picked in rd 2. i agree….. I would’ve preferred WR over RB, but any WR at that point would’ve been a huge reach imo. Cook is basically a WR and will be used more in the passing game than in the running game imo. I’m sold on Davis. I’m not sold on our depth. The Bengals fans will start worrying about their depth if one of them are injured. Promise

Let’s not act like LaFleur didn’t choke…..he clearly made the wrong decision…..but it’s only on Rodgers. Riiiight. tristan wirfs was one of the reasons the Bucs offense had so much success. Winfield made huge plays all season. in a one possession game, no one knows what kind of impact a 1st rd draft pick that actually suited up would have had. meanwhile….Jordan Love blows. Great pick. Any draft pick would’ve helped that team more than Love did.

They didn’t win the super bowl…..you have no idea what would’ve happened if they would drafted 2 players with the 2 picks used on Love.

-I guess….if you think 3rd, 4th and 5th rd picks are negligible. They are not. - I agree that they were smart not to pay him top of the market money. He’s good, but he’s not that good. going forward, it may be in Browns best interest to pull a Vincent Jackson and sit out most of the year unless KC promises not to tag him again next year. How would you play this scenario out if you were KC? Would you put Thuney @LT?

Yes…..that’s why I said the “previous season”……. you said that they would regress as it was obvious the 2019 team overachieved.

I remember that team. You said they were extreme over achievers the previous season and weren’t that good.

On a Bills message board….. wake up

I’ll go with the Colts winning the division in the final week.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-on-bills-not-squib-kicking-with-13-seconds-left-against-chiefs-that-starts-with-me/amp/ “that starts with me” “Again, I'm going to put it on the execution at this point and myself.” https://www.golongtd.com/p/why-13-seconds-is-on-sean-mcdermott Kelce mic’d up in the moment is wild. The Chiefs weren’t only exceptionally calm those 13 seconds. They noticed the Bills playing soft coverage and took full advantage. “They play it like that, that seam is open,” Kelce says after the first play. There’s a loud “Do it ‘Kelc!’” from Mahomes presnap and then it’s as easy as catching a football from your Dad in the backyard: We had the game won with 13 seconds left. Then we lost. He’s the head coach. It’s on him. He absolutely blew it with his play calls. Kelce knew it the second he saw it.

Looks at facts…..how about the fact that McD said it’s his fault. A 13 second collapse and your going to blame Levi Wallace and the ST coach. it’s on the HC. He runs the team. He failed. There is nothing to discuss here. But die on this hill……strange

You’re delusional.

Many, me included, have already assigned blame to McD for Josh not winning the SB last year. We’ll never know if we would’ve won, but we do know that McD prevented us from finding out. Considering how Josh was playing in those 2 playoff games last year, I truly believe McD’s coaching in the final 13 seconds is the reason Josh doesn’t have one. Regarding the bolded….it HAS happened. S The future is TBD, but we’ve already seen a catastrophe take place. A catastrophe that, imo, cost Josh his chance at his first SB. If Josh were to retire with no rings, many would believe that he doesn’t have a ring because of bad coaching….13 seconds is reason enough to feel that way. i agree that talking about the future is a different conversation….but the past has already shown bad coaching has cost them their best shot at a ring

The comparison for their career isn’t even close….but Josh Allen at his best is on a different level than Ben at his best imo. Josh is in the discussion for best player in the world. Ben was never that. Never even close tbh

Allens feet slipping getting blamed for Dawkins getting steamrolled and landing on the back of his legs, causing him to slip + Feliciano doing his best matador impression simultaneously is even funnier. He could’ve slipped and still gotten the first of his OL didn’t get dominated https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1482032478185480199?s=20&t=jNIHhcNrTxQZKm4nvnvdhg

Sure hope they do

Agreed about Booger and his takes. He’s terrible. I think Keyshawn is worse because he’s on every day and makes stupid comments each day. I rarely see Booger. Faulk is was an NFLN iirc. I do agree though…..he’s the 2nd all time worst, behind Emmitt

Seriously……, he believes coaching and Beane acquiring Diggs had more to do with their success than Allen…… he must have missed the divisional playoff game

“Good solid seasons” Keyshawn has been the worst ESPN personality since he’s been there. Although, listening to him talk about hoops is usually worth a couple laughs. His takes are that bad. Not sure how he has a job and I expeft him to be looking for a new network when his current contract expires.

lol same….. thought your kids may have used your account to post your passing. glad you’re still alive and well

McD: Tremaine, just stand in the middle of the field and be big. tremaine: ok Coach!

The dude admitted to staying up til 3am getting obliterated every night. Couldn’t stay healthy (which has continued every year since the trade). He was setting a bad example, an expiring contract and had some worth. They capitalized and landed a pick that would help us land allen. Looked to me like they were all in on drafting a QB in 2018 and adding draft picks would be key to making that happen. They were 💯 correct. They were tanking on purpose….yet made the playoffs. Interesting