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God if we have to compare his development to JPs it doesnt matter we are gonna suck big time..lol..Lets face it why are we arguing over a qb it doesnt really matter if we had Tom Brady Roger Staubach or God himself back there. Our defense cant stop anybody and if they did our moronic coaching staff would either a. call some retarded play or b.make some foolish decision to kill any chance of winning. It reminds of the movie easy money where the jockey was ahead by a mile and then realized he might win so he put his feet on the track slowing the horse down so he wouldnt win..I dont even think the Bills could handle winning..They proved that last year..Lets argue about something real that might change the course of this franchise..A new owner..

I listened to Jim Rome when I was stationed in Arizona in the late 80's early 90's. I use to catch him from a station out of San Diego called the Mighty 690..He was entertaining and had his own style. I find him humorous and Pompous all in one. I dont listen much anymore but If I did have a hour of my day to waste on the radio and I had to choose between Rome and the other clowns on Gr there would be no question..Rome...

I will beg to differ on that..The Bills of the 90s were on Tv a whole lot more Nationally than the Eagles or the Vikings combined...I dont think Andre deserves the HOF..I give it to Bruce Jim and Thurman no question but I got a problem with Andre ever sniffing the HOF. He lost his cool on the big stage costing his team points that were invaluable at the time..He was the man who threw the water on the fire of any chance of the Bills coming back against the Skins in Superbowl 26. Hall of Famers dont wear that crown. Any numbers he put up dont mean squat..That is the trump card for not getting in..

I would bet that none of those teams are going to finish worse than the Bills this year..Not only do we have a shaky Qb situation at best we have a project for an offensive line, a defensive line that cant stop the run or get to the qb and to top it off we have an absolute moron for a gameday coach..This season has Detroit Lion type disaster written all over it.

Its not quite as long as the JP lovers excuses we endured for 2 years..But it is growing..If he sucks as bad as JP get rid of his lame ass too..I would rather see a vet come in here like a Garcia or Kerry Collins type than ever draft another QB again..All we get are projects or reaches that have no business playing qb in the NFL..

Shouldnt you be on the Las Vegas UFL board now that your boy JP is the man???LOL...

The reason Trent looks lost is a due to many factors..One he is scared to take a chance throwing the ball downfield. He doesnt have a cannon arm like Rodgers showed last night on his scramble rocket pass to Driver for six to makeup for his indecision in the pocket. @ his receivers have no clue how to come back for a ball or run a fire drill when all breaks down, they just stand around and watch him or whoever is qbing get crushed. 3rd our oline is putrid and filled with rookies who are gonna get schooled all year by defensive lines and lb blitzes. Our running game does well to get back to the line of scrimmage and last but certainly not least is our coaching ..Play calling routes that are called are taking to long to develop or we are running screen passes into the teeth of the rush and losing yards or fumbling footballs..Brandon is a marketing pro running football operations and we have a (cough Cough) HOF owner with his head up his ass..You expected better??lol...I wish the Bills had a shot but the nail in the coffin of this years version was hammered in the minute Jauron was retained..If nothing else a good coach could overcome someof the personnel deficiencys created by our personnel decisionmakers but to no avail this yr..

anyone have any links?

Right on..The 5 yard hook really needs a lot of things to happen for it to turn into a 6 yard gain..Where as a 5 yard slant will go at least 7-12 yards consistently..

Out of all the frustrations this team has put me through the disappearence of the "slant" route has been the most Ofrustrating for me on the offensive side of the ball..When To ran that route last week I almost fell off my chair

Jauron has to betting the under.....

Does anyone have a link to the play where Lonnie Johnson catches a fake punt pass and gets rolled against the Packers..I beleive it was the last game Steve Tasker played in if I am not mistaken...

The Vick to Buffalo rumblings started way back in Feb. I am starting to wonder if it wasnt leaked out to gage fan reaction before anything really started moving..There is a lot of smoke being bantered about Vick in Buffalo..I have no problem with him playing football for the Bills..He did his time and its time to move on..

I just look to the Hall of Fame and know that as long as Ralph Wilson has been inducted it wipes out 42 yrs of not winning the Big one... "Sarcasm Off"

I liked the routes that TO ran on his 2 catches...Trents int was a pretty horrible pass..Hangartner Was mauled on a few pass rushes but somehow he was able to keep the rusher from the qb long enough for Trent to get the pass off.....The more I see Lynch run the more I realize he cant pick the correct lane to choose to save his life when there is a hole to pick. Bottom line is no matter who plays on this team Jauron is still the supergenious running the show....

This conversation is over..You dont like my opinion fine...But to call someone stupid for not agreeing is pompous and conceited....

I dont need a book to see his accomplishments..He is a owner of a NFL franchise that hasnt won a SuperBowl in its 42 year history of SUPERBOWLS..LOL..Im not lazy I just dont see how his accomplishment of owning an NFL team that has never accomplished its goal of winning a NFL Superbowl makes the Hall of Fame....Its that simple..

Just as I though..t you cant back it up...CYA

Historical knowledge? What contributions..Show me...

I could care less about the Hall of Fame anymore..The induction of Ralph Wilson into the NFL HAll of Fame has to be one of the biggest mistakes in its history..If they inducted people for being good at making money he is in hands down but if the HOF is to reward the greatest NFL personnel for their accomplishments 0-42 is all I need to see to realize this man has NO BUSINESS in the HOF..He has ridden the backs of our fans to the HOF..If anything they shoulda voted the Bills fans into the HOF for continuing to sell out his stadium for 42 years with save a span of 8 years has been downright torterous at best...His GM hirings have been a disaster save one and that was by mistake..His product is putrid...His enshrinement is worse...

He might be an ass but T.O might very well be the BEST wr that has ever put on a Bills uniform..He does it all..Blocks goes over the middle and can take it to the barn..So what he holds his QB's responsible to getting him the ball. He is a freaking man among boys on the field..Donovan choked in the big game and he called him out..The dude played with a bum leg and he dominated..They shoulda gotten him the ball more and they woulda shut Belicheat up then..He should do it in the lockerroom though not in the press and thats his biggest downfall..I would take a ass acting T.O in his prime over a crybaby get me the ball throwing my helmet Andre Reed any game of the season...

That is the comon sense taking over in your thought process..Throw it out when your factoring in there is noone for Plax to pay off with a few million...He shot his own dumbass..He should go to jail for that alone..If your gonna carry then at least be sure you know how to carry it properly and use it correctly...Same thing with Marshawn..Here he has millions but he has to go out smoke weed at the side of a lot and gets busted because he was out and about doing absolutley nothing..lol....If I had even a couple hundred grand house and I smoke Im doing it at home with my friends and inviting the tail there..These guys are not the smartest thats for sure..I find it hard to believe they can even comprehend a playbook...

Another worthless JP thread..LOL..Some people just cant move on..

I was there with my 2 brother in laws..Our beer froze as soon as we opened them..As a matter of fact we shoveled snow for 8 hrs in the stadium the night before, we made sure our row was shoveled out and then we went explored cashed out at 1030 and rested before we went back for the game the next morning...

Its all moot..When he signs and puts the pads on and plays we will see if he is the pass rusher they wanted when they drafted him...Nothing else matters...