Benjamin Barker

Let the kid play! He can't be any worse than Kelsay!

Arthur Moats LB #52 Height: 6-2 Weight: 250 Age: 22 College: James Madison Hometown: Portsmouth, Virginia I really like this guy. I'll be honest, it's mainly because he made a big forced fumble one time in my Madden franchise - but that's not the point. The point is Arthur Moats is awesome! Here are some quick facts: Moats played his college ball at James Madison, a division I-AA school. Moats won the Buck Buchanan award, given to the most outstanding defensive player in all of I-AA football. He also won Colonial Athletic Association Defensive Player of the Year. Moats actually played defensive end in college in a 4-3 scheme. Most college DEs that are drafted to play in a 3-4 move to OLB, but the Bills are actually working Moats at ILB, which is unusual. Moats racked up 11 sacks and 23.5 tackles for loss in his senior year. Here is a good scouting report on Moats: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1277382 He seems like a genuinely nice person. He already ran a free football camp for kids in his hometown. Here's a short video clip to introduce you to Arthur Moats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8aERGhuQc&feature=related

Keith "Every Day" Ellison.

Love this guy. Posted on his Twitter a few hours ago: I wish I had seen in at the time, playing a game of Madden against a Bill would be sweet. I wonder if he's any good... edit: link

Trade him now. He's just going to die on the vine in Buffalo, and getting the sort of value mentioned above sounds like a good deal.

If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cat's, or the uncovered meat's?

Happy Birthday to your son I'm glad he has the balls to serve his country and put his neck out there for America, because frankly I don't and neither do most people. Thanks for both of your service!

Well there are 32 NFL teams, and someone has the best QB and someone has the worst QB. Obviously QB is a very very important position on the team. When your team clearly has one of the five worst QBs, maybe it's time to stop supporting him and look to the organization to upgrade this crucial position.

Well the Bills are going to lose and he will look like crap compared to Rodgers, but he will make one or two decent plays and that will be enough to let all his supporters cling to hope for another week.

I don't believe you, Buffaloed82. If he throws for 180 yards and 1 touchdown you will go right back to believing he really has a chance to be a great QB.

Chad Ochocinco starts his day with a delicious Egg McMuffin.

The funny part is that all the Bills apologists on this board that say things like "OMG we are going to beat the Pack for real!!!" are definitely not going to put their money where their mouth is and bet on the game and collect their free money. Somewhere inside they know the truth.

Last year Brandon Marshall had a good season (over 1000 yards and 10 TDs). Steve Smith and Santana Moss both almost hit 1000 yards last year - much better than Lee did. There will be guys on teams with bad QBs that outperform Lee this year as well. --- I don't think trying to turn CJ Spiller into a wide receiver is a good idea, btw.

No one wants to come here because people view the Bills as a joke. Terrell Owens was misbehaved so badly that no real team would take him, and he had to go spend a year in Buffalo as punishment to prove he could behave, before a decent team would give him a shot again. It's not the weather, there are plenty of teams with bad climates.

And you guys say I am a troll.

Lee Evans is a good receiver, and any team would be happy to add him to their receiving corps. The knock on him is that he is more of a specialized deep ball threat than the complete package. He has great speed, and is surprisingly good in jump ball situations despite his height, making some spectacular long ball catches. However, he's not a big physical presence for short and medium yardage passing, and when he does catch a short pass he doesn't show top elusiveness and the ability to break bunch of tackles for a big gain. Every receiver is going to have their strengths and their weaknesses, though. To get a better if Lee is a true #1, we can list receivers that are clearly better than Evans for this particular season (without regard to future potential, etc.) and see how many their are. I'm sure I'm forgetting some guys, and I also just quickly lumped these guys into the two categories so I'm sure some rankings are debatable. Obviously some of these guys play in the slot or whatever, I'm just looking to get a baseline ranking for receiver quality. These are listed in no particular order. Definitely Better than Lee Evans Andre Johnson Randy Moss Calvin Johnson Miles Austin Roddy White Larry Fitzgerald Greg Jennings Reggie Wayne Marques Colston Brandon Marshall Anquan Boldin Michael Crabtree Chad Ochocinco Sidney Rice Wes Welker On Par with Lee Evans Santonio Holmes Dwayne Bowe Vincent Jackson Steve Smith Jeremy Maclin DeSean Jackson Hakeen Nix Steve Smith Percy Harvin Terrell Owens Santana Moss Johnny Knox Pierre Garcon Mike Wallace Mike Williams Donald Driver So by my estimate, I have him roughly somewhere between the 16th and 32nd best receiver in the league. I don't know, maybe I'm being a little generous here, what do you guys thinks? Anyways, in conclusion: Lee Evans is probably a #1 caliber NFL receiver, albeit a below average one.

What do you mean?

I don't know, some people do kinda like a good, old fashioned "I told you so"

Hey guys, I used a variety of articles. I liked the question/answer format in the one that was linked so I went with it, I felt it made for easy reading. I'm not getting paid for this! I just wanted to make a shortened version to share with the community as a platform for getting discussion going.

Hey, Chan wants to play old school smashmouth football!

OK that's fine it's probably for the best. I keep trying to make peace with you, but you don't want that.

It's pretty obvious to everyone except you that I am not HARCO. The mods can easily do an IP check and see that we are different people. You just have a personal problem with me, and are acting like a child having a temper tantrum. Just let it go and stop derailing your own thread, this is supposed to be about the Bills DBs, not about me!

Chan is an offensive innovator and outside the box thinker. Perhaps the Bills should really shake things up, and utilize the strength of their team (running backs) in more wildcat type formations. In fact, maybe the Bills should be the first team to completely eliminate the quarterback position from their offense. Chan could really create a name for himself and a legacy in the game. It sounds crazy, but then again if you think about it, the wildcat formation itself sounds kind of crazy. How can you effectively run the ball if you don't have a quarterback in there? I don't know, but with the extra blocker it provides teams do it all the time out of the wildcat. I want to see Jackson running the option to Spiller! Or some sort of triple option with Lynch going inside, Jackson running outside, and Spiller using a WR reverse type of motion. Instead of Wildcat, they could call it the Triple Bison or the Thundering Buffalo or something. Also, don't forget which player has the best arm on the team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDZbImFKVo Okay maybe completely removing the QB is a litte far fetched, but I would like to see them try some more Triple Bison packages.

I don't know what kind of explanation you are looking for. He's probably just one of many people who doesn't appreciate you trashing me all the time. Like I said, if you don't believe me you can feel free to get the mods involved. Just be careful you don't get yourself banned, because you have trolled me and called me names in many different threads at this point and it's too late to delete those posts now.