Dorkington

Gonna give this my best shot... here goes... Well you could, but you're not a liberal. BOOM

That's always the problem with these sorts of discussion... the "fact" that one "side" has "ruined" things. I'll go back to reading and asking questions here and there

I was told not to go there, so I didn't... but I see you did

If I can speak on behalf of liberals... I think they don't view America as a bad place... instead as a good place with faults, that could be even better by learning from others that have had successes where we haven't. Unfortunately that gets painted as "America sux" often times. Though, admittedly, there probably are a lot of extremist liberals who do believe that, I don't know. Example... I think we should go to a single payer system for healthcare, and I think our healthcare is disappointing relative to certain other countries for the majority of people... BUT relative to another set of countries, we have it pretty well here, AND we are at the forefront of many advancements in bio-tech. Being aware of our shortcomings, being critical of them, and wanting to improve upon them, doesn't necessarily mean I think America is terrible in that field, just that we could be even better. As far as greatness... I'm of the general opinion that every generation is better* than the previous generation in that we continue to build on successes of the past. A lot of amazing things happened in the past, and a lot of shameful things as well. The idea is to remove the shameful things, or at least learn from them, and then also build on the amazing things. We don't necessarily put people on the moon anymore, but we just got some sweet pictures of Pluto and are discovering new things about space every day. Some look at that and say "we aren't as great" others say "well, what more do we gain from putting people on the moon? Let's see what else is out there, and what we can learn from it" * - its pretty difficult for me to say one generation is hard working, and another isn't, just because we now have protections for those who can't provide for themselves... in the past those people suffered greatly, and were not able to turn it around very often. Now with a social safety net, there is a greater possibility. At least theoretically, since it's a topic of great debate.

Steve Rogers likes the food better now!

I'm actually really enjoying the range of answers. If I'm allowed to answer, I'd address your final point (being that I'm seen as the resident idiot liberal here).

I often times wonder what people of the past would think of the modern world.

I am keeping my opinions to myself, I'm following your rules.

So, generally from the late 1800s to the 1940s or so? That was when America was the best?

Dunno, Brady being rich, he'd probably find a way to make it go away in the "real world".

What era do people refer to when they refer to America's former greatness?

I'm kind of assuming the three of them will be "close enough", that they'll go with the two younger guys, so they can use Cassel's funds to help towards extending some key pieces on our team. But, I do like the idea of having a vet mentor.... so hell if I know Preseason should be fun.

Sounds like the most likely scenario is that Cassel gets cut, or EJ is traded (if there's a market)... at least from a financial perspective.

That's kind of how I feel about the whole thing. I think most everyone knows players try to game the system as best they can, in every sport, to get whatever advantage is available. It's kind of like getting caught speeding... "everyone does it" isn't an excuse and yelling at the cop "no I didn't! you apologize to me!!!!" won't really fly either. But if you are up front about it and cordial/apologetic, you can often times get away with a warning.

ITS SO CLOSE I CAN TASTE IT ....ew sweaty Kyle Williams

Damn Mark, tell us how you really feel

Yeah, I get the idea a big part of the penalty is Tom/the Patriots (accused) lack of cooperation... is that correct?

Yeah, I'm not nearly educated enough to know what the actual impact is... but just being able to say "hey, look, a similar thing happened, and it wasn't a huge deal" just comes off as "you know, good point" haha

We're unqualified when it comes to football, and we have opinions on that all the time. It's the internet, it happens.

That's a pretty big feather in Brady's cap, imo.

Ugh, our 'heart and soul' can't even show up when other players do? This team is a disaster.

Thanks for a concise answer.

Why are you guys asking questions instead of answering? As far as I'm concerned, if it's natural causes, it's natural causes. It sucks, it happens. But I'm also not arguing that mothers are 'murdering babies' by aborting a fetus that's not able to live without artificial support. There, I've answered questions. How about some folks answer mine.

I'm pro-choice myself, I'm just trying to figure out the line of responsibility of the pro-lifers so I can better understand the argument. I'm not going to change their minds, they probably aren't going to change mine. I'm just trying to figure it out exactly.