dayman

A quick wiki shows that if you don't fill it out they are more likely to do in person follow ups...and that nobody has ever been charged with a crime or fined. Wiki...but backs up BPA's story. Fill it out 3rd...or become victim of government jehovah witnessing

Just heard a clip of Carney being very strong on China regarding letting him leave.

Saw some clips of opening arguments on the news just now. George's lawyer has a good approach/demeanor. Looked good for him imo...based on what very little I just saw.

Ok we still need to bring unemployment down more. Go. Lets hear what we should be doing that has any realistic shot at passing. Oh wait, nothing about that in the article? Oh that's right...it's another mindless whiny "opinion article" from B-man...of course it isn't in there.

Be honest in your responses 3rd. Don't let shame keep from disclosing your lack of flush toilet.

In Russia the rock punks you

It's called reality. They've covered America's priorities...and can't agree to do anything about it. What ideas does this author expect they take up at this point? Was he asleep for the last 4 years? As for the secure the border debate...I would say most Americans agree it should be done...I think the problem comes from certain people wanting to basically put a standing army and invest a fortune in it when statistic show that at the moment net immigration is not a problem...it's not an issue of "secure or not" it's an issue of "what is secure?" More security is something both sides agree on. How much more is something they don't. And when it comes to this issue money and size of government is not so important anymore for some reason...

Ya I saw it on 60 minutes...that story implied that the Russians had a hard time coming up with the appropriate charges and the sentence was way out of line with teh charges they eventually did bring (can't remember but I think it was basically a disturbing the peace mixed w/ religious intolerance for having been at a church).

stop killing grandma Tom

Set them free. Who cares about what they did it was nothing.

Why would a state give a break for leaving?

Saw Superman recently. I think a good amount of people will like it. I didn't like it at all. In fact, it was terrible.

Some significant bacon attempting to be shown today at hearings.

fairly accurate summary

Florida was hit real hard so naturally it is coming back strong. In any event, Florida really is a great place to live so it is only natural.

Well that is different than the wage issue I was quoting...but I still doubt anything can be done.

There is no way to do this and it wouldn't do anything to wealth gaps anyway ...

legitimate lol

"provided/required/authorized by law" means "court order" among other things. Period.

So in other words, on an anonymous Internet message board where you are screaming about civil liberty violations, you simply decline to comment with any specificity on why you are so worked up?

The unreasonable part. And I'm not attacking what I'm saying is you have said over and over that you care about the substance of the program. So instead of raging like that idiot in the video you posted...lay out why the specifics of this program go to far. And I'm not asking for a detailed legal argument with supporting precedent (although that would be nice and I would read it)....just for you to flesh out what has you so upset in way that is a bit more articulate and technical...

That is what we are talking about in large part. And to the point, what reasonable privacy expectations are being violated here?

Well there is a lot of chatter about potential abuse and lies and more things that have yet to come out...but the leak didn't show any of that...you know...the kind of stuff good leaks show...nobody has shown any of that

I have heard a few tv heads claiming that basically the system is source/destination/time of call is stored forever...then they can go back w/ FISA warrant to look at all of that info for a number once they identify a number as a target... For Internet the heads claim they do look at actual content but that nothing for US citizens ever and nothing for people in the US ... unless of course looking at there their stuff happens when looking at foreign terrorists stuff .... but supposedly this program is in someway "real time" and they catch traffic of targets as they flow through US servers ... they do not collect or store this data as they do w/ the phone stuff... In other words...phone stuff is trolling with a net and they sift through what they catch once they have a target to look for...and Internet stuff is more like spear fishing (to stick w/ the fishing analogy) where as they need to identify something ahead of time and need to target that specific fish in real time.

As far as I know that is true for phone calls, not true for texts or web stuff...