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I once saw Chris Kelsay fit two whole Hostess Cupcakes into his mouth at once. True story.

OMG you mean when we promoted a GM from within our rotten, failure of a front office, it was going to be business as usual????? Retread old man coach, old man no name GM, retread, terrible players. You can dee all of the Ralph Wilson apologists losing stream and finally opening their eyes by the day lately. We really are at the end of the line, and now only the absolutely most delusional can't see it.

Lol so shocking that the crybaby sore losers come out whenever the Patriots beat us (every time).

Bad owner = team that can't be consistently competitive. Not rocket science.

Was hoping the sour grapes, sore loser, crybaby crowd had given up in here but oh well. You want to talk about teaching your children positive values - I'd speculate that teaching them that when you lose, the best thing you can do is to cry about it and call the other guy a cheater in a pathetic attempt to invalidate your own shortcomings is a good bit worse than pushing the envelope for competitive advantage. But as Bills fans, we know little about pushing for competitive advantage these days. Our biggest organizational innovation in the last decade has been to sell our home games for literal cash money compensation. Yeah, it stinks that the Patriots are so much better than us. But please stop the whole running home to mommy thing - we are already being laughed at on the field. Don't humiliate yourself on some dumb message boards too. Self respect is worth holding on to.

Yah I wouldn't bother drafting a quarterback either. Its not like having the chance at getting elite-level quarterback play is important in the NFL. Heck, there were like 2 or 3 times ever that a team with a poor quarterback won the Superbowl. That could be us!!!!!!

Lol fast metabolism. He's a bust guys. Don't overthink it. It happens. Everyone made a terrible mistake drafting him. He will never be a contributor. Use your eyes. Players have it or they don't. Just save your breath on the whole 'put on 20 more pounds and learn to play the run' garbage. He's just a garden variety bust - it wouldn't have even been such a big deal if we didn't reach on him like always. Oh well.

Comparing this non-issue to the baseball steroid scandal is a pretty wide stretch. A large degree of the outcry caused by steroid use in baseball is due to the very statistical nature of the game. Purists hold sacred the hallowed numbers in the record books, and no other sport enjoys that almost reverent statistical condition. I suppose the Patriots "cheating" would be akin to Derek Jeter taking first base after pretending that he got hit when he really didn't. Pressing a competitive advantage, with an uncertain degree of ethicalness. While they violated the NFL policies with regard to video taping, the reason that they own the Bills year after year after year after year is because of better players, better coaching, and better execution. To suggest otherwise is a crybaby excuse, and just utterly reeks of jealousy and desperation. I hate the Patriots, but I'm just calling it like it is to any outside observer except the bitter, butthurt Bills fan. No they haven't. Nobody cares about this today, except for a small population of sore losers. Nobody will remember it in 20 years.

Sorry buddy, but NFL players understand the economics of the game, as evidenced by the fact that big name free agents and coaches refuse to come here. It is the result of a combination of factors - the region's economic viability, the abysmal track record of the owner/front office, weather, etc. Buffalo is the bottom of the barrel, as far as destinations for an NFL player. I wish it weren't true, but it is. Your assertion is that because of this, no underclassman would ever declare. That is not a well thought out statement. There are a host of reasons why underclassmen declare for the draft. And, the vast, vast, vast majority of declaring NFL prospects aren't able to predict with any degree of certainty where they will end up drafted. Potential #1 picks are able to make this prediction with greater certainty. Further, since Andrew Luck was born to a family with greater than average means (especially when compared to his peers at the college football level), the necessity to "get his" is much lower. That, when combined to his purported affinity for the college lifestyle make me think that when adding up all of the negatives that coming to Buffalo brings him economically and personally, he'll opt to stay at Stanford for another year. Since he is likely to be a top 5 pick this year or the following year, why WOULDN'T he hold out for a better organization, city, region? Washington picked in the top 5 last year, and trust me, your average top-tier NFL prospect would be a million times happier playing in Washington than Buffalo

Yeah, my description of my gut feeling on Mallett was hard to describe. Peyton definitely did not come across as a dumb southerner. I guess maybe I'm trying to describe that he sounds like a meathead jock - just didn't come off in his post-game interview as a cerebral, sharp guy, that's all. No offense to the South intended

People who follow the NFL religiously make estimations on which teams will be good and which teams will be bad based on their past experience, roster turnover, coaching changes, offseason additions, etc. While we can always point out a couple pundits who make a prediction that turns out to be wildly wrong, let us not forget that the vast majority of the time, the teams that are expected to do poorly do turn out to perform poorly. The Bills were a bad team that got worse, and everyone recognized it. Those people will turn out to be correct. The Bucs were also a pretty bad team last year, and were expected by most to be pretty bad to below average this year. They beat two really bad teams already. They still may turn out to be bad when all is said and done. Heck, if they don't turn out 2-3 after the next 3 games, it'd be a surprise.

I firmly believe that Andrew Luck is the class of college quarterbacks, from the perspective of NFL potential. He has the size, strength, speed, and intelligence to be successful on the next level. The problem is, he is too smart. If and when the Bills secure the #1 pick in the draft (or the #2 pick, with the team in front of them not needing a quarterback), Andrew Luck will absolutely choose to stay in school to prevent himself from being drafted by the Buffalo Bills. No quarterback with a modicum of sense and any other options would declare for the draft to be selected by the Buffalo Bills. Doing so would only serve to cost him countless millions of dollars, and a person of Luck's intelligence will simply stick it out another year so he can be drafted by a real NFL-caliber organization, in any media market besides Buffalo. As sad as it makes me to type this, Andrew Luck will not be the next Buffalo Bills quarterback. Perhaps we will have a chance at Ryan Mallett, as he will be declaring for the draft no matter what. I hope he matures a lot between now and then, should we select him, as right now he comes off like a dumb jock good ol' boy southerner. Don't pretend that Luck won't look to see which organization he'd be drafted by, and decide to stay away from Buffalo like the plague.

Well, you take a bad team from last year, make it worse in many, many ways and better in exactly none. What?! The Bills are last in offense?!?!?! OH MY GOD WHAT A GIGANTIC SURPRISE! WHO WOULD HAVE EVER SEEN THAT COMING? Oh wait, absolutely everyone who follows football across the country (with the exception of the delusional few here) knew it would happen.

Without looking, Todd Collins.

To call this "panic mode" implies that Buddy and Chan actually thought they could win football games this year. In reality, the only people that thought the Bills would win games and be competitive this year are the Kool-Aid drinkers on these boards. Being 2-12 in December won't be "panic mode" either - it'll just be the realization of what literally everyone on Earth that watches football outside of Buffalo expected all along. But, if we leave the 2011 NFL Draft without a new quarterback and a new left tackle, THEN it'll be time to panic.

The Buffalo Bills paradox: Won't: Trade away a sought-after player from a position of depth. Will: Trade away a Pro Bowl player from the weakest group on the team.

Whoa there politard. Stop making things up.

Well, despite the crass language, our boy Clutch here pretty much just put it in PTR's mouth. You might not agree with his language/tone, but he certainly was correct in his prognostications, while Promo fell on his face, hard.

Guys - let it go. This whole crybaby mentality makes ya'll look like a bunch of sore losers and is pretty embarrassing.

He is a retired member of the FDNY, just FYI. But he also has become sort of a cartoon character who has his entire life's identity associated with a chant at a football game. That's pretty awkward.

In this thread: Sour grapes and a truckload of jealousy.

Sweet. He managed a whole 150 yards against essentially a college team. I am wetting myself in anticipation.

Well, we did draft a running back in the top 10 which very very rarely happens for only the most elite of backs, and then don't put him on the field. That is the gist of OPs point, and is the reason why football people across the country are laughing at our new bunch of bumblers.

How is it that Jay Cutler can throw for 300+ yards and touchdowns galore behind an offensive line that is widely considered to be the worst in tue NFL? Sure, an elite-level offensive line can elevate a bad quarterback to a mediocre one. But an elite-level quarterback gets the job done in any conditions. Do we want only one of those deficiencies fixed? No. Is getting elite-level quarterback play the single most important trait of consistently winning franchises? Oh hell yes.

Why do fans HAVE to be patient? Just because we are fans of the inept and bumbling Buffalo Bills? Why can other teams and their fans get treated to their teams going from crappy to decent/good in a year? Oh yeah, because we refuse to acquire a coach and a quarterback. Washington made themselves over from a Billslike pushover to instantly competitive with the best teams in the NFL by using free agency as a tool to improve, bringing in a proven, respected NFL caliber head coach and quarterback. Easy breezy. But we HAVE to be patient, because we are a bad organization top to bottom, and the bad organizations can only catch lightning in a bottle and luckbox a good team once every 50 years or so. What we are is the Kansas City Royals, using our games to shop our players to other teams while playing what only loosely resembles football. And we just sit and take it because we are just so gosh darn lucky that we even have an NFL team, because everyone knows deep down inside that Buffalo is the absolute worst city with an NFL franchise. And Trent Beiber is an embarrassment. A disgusting, pathetic, emo embarrassment. It'll start getting real fun around here when everyones hilarious "we are going to shock the world! Playoffs baby!" threads are unearthed. Anyone going to hold the organization accountable, or are you just going to keep bowing your head in thanks and try not to make any waves because you know Buffalo doesn't deserve a team in the first place. Thank you sir, can I have some more? Also, about the only thing I have any patience for on this abortion of a team is C.J. Spiller. He is the only player that has a chance of being an NFL-caliber superstar. We know all of the other players stink already.