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5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:
When you see something like this year after year you have to question the training staff a bit. Isn't this a recurring thing for them?
It is and I think it would be a legitimate question.
I seem to remember a stretch during our drought years where we seemed to suffer an extraordinary amount of injuries?
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
Technically, it's true. The Bills had 4 plays on offense after going up 21 on the Diggs TD. Allen technically carried on 2 of them (1 Motor, 1 Moss)
I grant your point that the perception that the Bills were running Josh with a big lead is incorrect. In fact, the Bills went into the 4Q only leading by 1 score.
It was on their 2nd scoring drive of the 2 half that Josh Allen was the leading rusher - 4 rushes to 3 by Moss. One of these was a particularly vicious run where Ramsey and a teammate were "scissoring" Josh and it frankly looked as though they might be trying to hurt him. I think it's safe to say the game would have ended differently if they succeeded. Were the 3 yards on 2nd and 10 worth it? Was there no other way to get them?
There was an additional run in the next TD drive, with the Bills up 2 scores.
I am in full agreement that I don't want Allen being the leading rusher on the team and I definitely want him to minimize unnecessary contact. In an ideal world, my preference would be that he would only run when scrambling on pass plays that break down, with room to run, and to get down or out of bounds before contact.
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56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I had completely forgotten about the last game Tenn played in Buff in 2018. Allen running for his life behind the human turnstile that was Vlad Ducasse and bouncing passes off the hands of Kelvin Benjamin with his .0000000005 yards of separation from defenders....
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17 minutes ago, teef said:
he looks like a dancing potato. i'm happy for him.
Same here. However, if he starts twerking after a win....
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1 hour ago, Greg S said:
I know they have injuries to the OL with Becton out for the year and the other guy ( I forget his name) who is out 4 weeks but they were horrible. Flacco being a statue doesn't help but he was under pressure all game long. What sucks for the Jets is their WR's were getting open. It was easy to see they have a talented group. Also Hall and Carter had some nice runs from the RB position. For all of the praises everyone was giving JD for the offseason he had his OL has no depth at all. They had one TD late in the 4th when the Ravens were up 24-3 but a garbage time TD is not impressive especially when the Ravens had called off the dogs so to speak. The Jets D played well in the first half and they looked good considering they were getting no help from the offense. But they wore down in the 2nd half. If this is the OL the Jets use against the Bills then Wilson will be running for his life or Flacco will get destroyed. It will be a huge mismatch in Buffalo's favor. Leaving MetLife seeing all of those Jets fans pissed, frustrated, and disappointed was nice but I actually would have preferred a Jets win. Baltimore is more of a threat to the Bills then the Jets are when it comes to getting that #1 seed.
Here's what Football Outsiders had to say about Breece Hall:
QuoteWorst Running Back by DYAR (Total) : Breece Hall. Hall ran for only one first down while being stuffed twice. (All six of his carries came on first-and-10, oddly.) Only two of his receptions moved the sticks, and he fumbled after a 6-yard catch in the fourth quarter.
P.S: Don't tell @IronMaidenBills
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40 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
I don't think Josh should be the leading the team is carries when they are up by 21. What I got from the presser's is that this is more on Josh than the coaching staff, so back to the point, he needs to understand when up by 21 and you are moving the ball at will, fighting for an extra 2 yards on first down is not worth it.
This seems to be a common belief; however, none of this actually happened in the Rams game.
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Football Outsiders hasn't put together indepth analyses for week one yet. However, they gave some initial thoughts on QB, WR, and RB performances (DYAR) in this article:
Patrick Mahomes Threatens Opening Day Records
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2022/patrick-mahomes-threatens-opening-day-records
Total DYAR:
1. Mahomes 291
2. Hebert 156
5. Allen 110
33. Burrow -147
QuoteAs you might imagine, DYAR says that Mahomes was the week's best passer in a variety of categories. That includes throws to receivers at or behind the line of scrimmage (7-of-7 for 67 yards and two touchdowns), down the middle of the field (7-of-7 for 96 yards and a touchdown; every one of those completions picked up enough yards for a first down), and especially in the red zone (10-of-13 for 60 yards and five touchdowns, plus a 9-yard DPI).
QuoteHerbert led the NFL in passing DYAR on throws to running backs (8-of-8 for 56 yards and a touchdown) and in the second quarter (10-of-12 for 160 yards and two touchdowns).
QuoteAllen was the week's best passer on third/fourth downs, going 7-of-8 for 162 yards. All seven of those completions moved the chains, including 26- and 53-yard touchdowns. That's not even counting what he did as a runner—his nine carries for 57 yards included conversions on both of his third-down runs, including a touchdown.
QuoteBurrow spent the bulk of this game in scoring range, trying (but mostly failing) to put points on the board. He had 31 dropbacks inside the Steelers' 40-yard line, going 11-of-28 for 98 yards with two touchdowns, two interceptions, three sacks, and a fumble.
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1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I don't worry at all about a serious injury with Allen running.
I agree with the notion that such an injury is more likely to be suffered in the pocket than out of it.
My concern is cumulative effect of the relatively incredible amount of hits he has taken and the potential for a drastically shortened prime as a result.
And on Thursday........every hit was a big hit.........he didn't make it out of bounds or make it in the clear enough to slide on any of them.
Some of them started out like plays where he has waltzed into the clear or into the end zone and not gone down hard in the past.........but in this game he wasn't getting away.
Hopefully that's just a tribute to the Rams defensive speed.
When QB's lose it.........it's not always easy to quantify why..........but when it happens prematurely it's often the guy who has taken a lot of hits.........and Allen is piling up multiple years worth of hits in each season.
I think the Rams’ defense was better and more physical in that game than many are giving them credit for. Many of the yards gained were tough yards, and that goes for most of Allen’s runs. I don’t believe he is as reckless as he was the first couple years, and he has been much better at not taking the big hit. However, he did take more punishment in runs over the first 3 quarters than he typically does - and I think it was more about the speed and physical nature of the Rams defense than recklessness on the part of Allen. Although, there were a number times he could have minimized the contact.Still, I agree about the cumulative effect of a physical running style. I think Josh is going to be who he is; but, hopefully, he will continue working on being smarter about when and how he runs.
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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:
When Jay Skurski started asking about Josh running late in the 4th Q with the game in hand (about 14:50 in), Dorsey blinked and took a deep breath or two while the question was being asked. He looked serious. He led off his answer with "That's a good question" and his eyes shifted left and right
Allen ran one time in the 4th when the game was in hand. It was a 13 yard scramble on a pass play when the linebacker pushed Morse into Allen. Allen found a wide open lane, ran for a first down, and started to go down just as a defender tackled him from behind. Not even a hard hit. That was it. It didn’t appear to me that Dorsey was that concerned about it.3 hours ago, Beck Water said:What I think (all WAG on my part):
1) while they may not have had too many designed QB runs, I think they did have RPOs in there, especially at the end of the game where Josh was the run option. McDermott alluded to that. I think Dorsey doesn't want to admit to opposing DCs those plays gonna come out when we're in the 4th Q with a 3 TD lead - but I think Dorsey got taken to the woodshed by McDermott about "situational play calling" in the 4Q to call plays where Josh has more options that don't involve running Josh.
There literally were no RPOs at the end of the game. Allen ran 3 total times the entire 4th quarter: one time in the drive that put them up by 2TDS, once in the drive that put them up by 3 TDS, and that was with over 10 minutes left in the game. After that, there was only the run I described above.I watched McDermott’s press conference when they asked him about Allen’s running and he didn’t seem any more concerned than Dorsey.
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20 minutes ago, FireChans said:
That’s not the same as wanting him cut lol. It’s okay to say it didn’t happen.
Whatever you need to believe...
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Just now, FireChans said:
I would love to know who wanted Allen cut his rookie year.
I bet most people wanted him to just play better. He achieved that, in spades.
Short memory, my friend. There were a number of posters on this board who were adamant he would never be a good NFL QB. Feel free to take a stroll down memory lane in the threads during his rookie year.
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21 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:
I know some of you think this is fun and games, but the Dolphins are hungry and looking to make a move. In fact there are videos on social media of their fans saying 'bring on the bills' after dominating the patriots yesterday.
This McDaniel cat is strange but may truly be a football savant if he can turn things around in Miami...
You had posts last year predicting the Bills losing to almost every team they played, including that gem where you predicted a blow out loss to the Jets - and you started this season posting that you thought it was likely the Bills would lose to the Rams. So I am fully expecting a post predicting a loss to the Dolphins as the game gets closer...
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1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:
...not this year.
Did you watch the game?
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16 hours ago, Warcodered said:
He's not completely wrong, both teams were pretty equally bad, those two big plays are essentially the score they lost by. It's just they sucked regardless.
Right. They were equally bad. The Pats**** somehow managed to not come up up with either of two sure interceptions or any big play, while the Fins had 3 big plays. And Tua's stat line of 23-33, 270 yds, 1 TD, and 0 INTs should have been more along the lines of 19-33, 190 Yds, 1 TD, 2 INTs, and 2 intentional grounding calls.
Neither team was very good in that game.
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30 minutes ago, syhuang said:
For anyone didn't watch pats/dolphins game yesterday but saw Tua's stats, here is every of his throws yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3A-q7UKWOA
To be fair, he did what his coaches asked him to do and he had an okay game, but there is no year 3 jump at least based on the first game. Tua is still the same quarterback as his was in first two years.
That may have been the worst 70% completion, 270 yard performance I have seen. Little to no pocket awareness, just awful decisions under pressure, and the US postal service can deliver anything quicker than any Tua pass over 20 yards...
Thank goodness he has some receivers that can actually make something out of those short passes.
You are right, it is hard to see any real growth in his game.
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The Ravens have just been ravaged by injuries over the last couple of years.
Hate to see serious injuries for any athletes.
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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:
So maybe sometimes determinations on crappy rookies are right.
Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. As a general rule, it is probably best not to write off a rookie. If a segment of this board had their way in Allen's rookie season, he wouldn't be here today...
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15 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I mean, they won? They won handily?
My comment was more directed at the game itself.
As for the Dolphins, they did win. Against a team whose inept play on offense cannot be overstated. They are struggling right now to score even a single touchdown.
And the Dolphins offense isn't really that much better. Tua's strength is getting the ball out quickly and the short passing game, relying on YAC (124 YAC yesterday, nearly 50% of his total passing yards). He still struggles to throw a ball over 15 yards, they have no real running game, and the offensive line is not much better than it was last year. To borrow a line from a Football Outsider's article this morning: "The Dolphins offensive line is still five mall cops trying to stop a looting spree. And Tagovailoa's Sunday blooper reel features lots of throws directly into the turf while getting sacked."
They managed to score 13 points in 8 possessions
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11 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Apparently Josh grows when you're trying to tackle him.
Did Josh get bigger, or was he just happy to see the tackler?
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Vehicle fires in the parking lot and a dumpster fire on the field....
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15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Chargers, Chiefs, and maybe now the Vikings. Vikings were one of the “easier”games on the schedule. Bills get them at home and Tre should be back by then.
Still worry about physical teams, but less so than in the past. Bills front 7 looks stout.
I don't worry about physical teams at all. That is why they did so much to revamp that D line in the offseason. They drastically improved the two most glaring defensive weaknesses from last season: The ability to stop the run and the ability to get constant pressure with 4. The D line play was my favorite part of the Rams game.
They are the best team in the NFL.
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It's hard to believe we have any threads about this, much less two...
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2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Posted this in another thread - but appropriate here as well.
The Humiliation of Aaron Rodgers and Mac Jones
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/humiliation-aaron-rodgers-and-mac-jonesQuoteThe Patriots' biggest problem isn't that clueless Matt Patricia is calling the offensive plays with Bill Belichick looming over his shoulder and waiting for him to make a mistake like a toxic Little League dad. No, the Patriots' biggest problem is that they lack any speed whatsoever on offense...Josh McDaniels could scheme these slow-pokes open AND do a fine job of keeping the Patriots ahead of the sticks so Jones wouldn't be forced to flutter too many third-/fourth-down deep shots. And even McDaniels needed Jets-caliber opponents or typhoon-force winds to maintain the illusion. Patricia doesn't stand a chance while operating out of Baby's First Playbook. When your greatest offensive highlight is Ty Montgomery rolling into the end zone after a flair pass to break a shutout late in the third quarter, it's a sure sign that your team lacks the sizzle it needs to hang with opponents such as the Bills.
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Entertaining article from Football Outsiders on thoughts of players and teams around the NFL:
The Humiliation of Aaron Rodgers and Mac Jones
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/humiliation-aaron-rodgers-and-mac-jonesJust a few snippets:
QuoteAnd of course there was lots of RBF: Rodgers Bemused Face, the priceless expressions Rodgers makes in television close-ups which convey messages like a skunk just sprayed my dog, I left my headlights on all night or (most appropriately for Rodgers) no human beings are worthy of anything except my contempt, but especially not these receivers.
QuoteThe Patriots' biggest problem isn't that clueless Matt Patricia is calling the offensive plays with Bill Belichick looming over his shoulder and waiting for him to make a mistake like a toxic Little League dad. No, the Patriots' biggest problem is that they lack any speed whatsoever on offense...Josh McDaniels could scheme these slow-pokes open AND do a fine job of keeping the Patriots ahead of the sticks so Jones wouldn't be forced to flutter too many third-/fourth-down deep shots. And even McDaniels needed Jets-caliber opponents or typhoon-force winds to maintain the illusion. Patricia doesn't stand a chance while operating out of Baby's First Playbook. When your greatest offensive highlight is Ty Montgomery rolling into the end zone after a flair pass to break a shutout late in the third quarter, it's a sure sign that your team lacks the sizzle it needs to hang with opponents such as the Bills.
QuoteLet's see, there's:
- Tyreek catching the quick underneath smash route, then trying to elude seven defenders for a gain of 5 yards;
- Tyreek motioning across the formation, then part of the way back, then doing a little back-'n'-forth boot-scoot behind the tight end before the snap, only to catch a flare pass and get immediately flattened by Kyle Dugger;
- Tyreek running a would-be deep route, realizing that Tua couldn't reach him if he had a golf cart, then stopping and out-leaping one of the Patriots defensive backs named Jones (it's not gonna be worth learning which one is which this year) for a 23-yard gain and a very Tua-worthy highlight.
- RPO? Heck yes, we're still the Dolphins.
- End around! Didn't see that coming! Oh yeah you did. Anyway, gain of 6.
Hill finished with eight catches for 94 yards, plus that 6-yard run. The Dolphins offensive line is still five mall cops trying to stop a looting spree. And Tagovailoa's Sunday blooper reel features lots of throws directly into the turf while getting sacked.
In summary: the new Mike McDaniel Dolphins offense is chaotically, entertainingly bad, but still bad.
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That's ******* ridiculous. Whoever came up with that idea should be fired...