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26 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
They portrayed Dylan, Eric, and Cho like commandos. Non-stop pictures of them holding their weapons, dressed in their all black outfits or camo, posing with knives. They aired manifestos and even made them sympathetic with the bullying angle. It legitimized them and their actions. Psychologists begged CNN and other news outlets to stop covering the killers in that light but what bigger story is there than mass violence? It has inspired many copy cats.
Klebold and Harris produced hours of video leading up to the shootings. I was part of a group that reviewed the tapes to provide a recommendation regarding whether the tapes should be released or destroyed - and if released, what impact they might have on others. Our recommendation was to destroy the tapes and to release as little as possible of the information that portrayed them in the ways in which you describe. Unfortunately, much of the information did get out and you are right about much of the portrayal.
Columbine happened right at the beginning of the internet becoming affordable and accessible - and it wasn't long before those with thoughts "outside the norm", isolated in their rooms, could immerse themselves in information that normalized whatever distorted thoughts and desires they might be experiencing. One of the inherent byproducts of normalizing deviant desires is that it inherently reduces barriers to acting on those desires. This has been at the core of the drastic increase in sexual offenses against children. The web is at once, one of the best and one of the worst things to ever come along.
I agree with you about Klebold and Harris and media coverage in general with these types of events. Is it THE reason for the increase in deviant types of violence such, as mass shootings? No. But it is a real issue and variable in a very complicated problem..
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1 hour ago, 716er said:
How can you trust a report at this point with the backtracking Texas officials have already done multiple times in regard to this shooting?
I have no idea why anyone, puts any level of faith in any of the reports coming out. Maybe we could take a novel approach and wait until all the facts are sorted out before placing blame or exonerating?
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2 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Being moderate is tough. Everybody hates you. But I believe there is a middle ground to this issue.
Unfortunately, the extreme views on both sides tend to somehow dominate…-
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Loved Ray Liotta as an actor. Thoughts and prayers to his family andfriends.
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On 5/24/2022 at 3:54 PM, Rubes said:
Be nice if he showed film of Bates from more than one game.
The entire Oline performed well in that game. And as well as Bates and Brown did in pass blocking in that game, they were equally as bad in the KC game. Brown was worse than Bates, but they were both bad in that game.
I like Bates. He played pretty well the last four games of the season (better at pass blocking than run blocking) and in the playoff game against the ***Pats. I am a big fan of Kromer and think he can really help Bates elevate his game. The same with Brown, Doyle and the other young Olinemen - well, maybe not Ford
. Actually, while Kromer isn't a miracle worker, he's pretty damn good. So, I will wait to see if he can find and maximize whatever talent is within Ford.
I am really looking forward to seeing how this Oline performs this year. It is the one area I feel they haven't adequately addressed, in terms of proportion to the value they are protecting (Allen). But, the team did the next best thing in hiring someone like Kromer to get the best out of what they do have.
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8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
That's what sending young males off into the military is/was for...
I actually think time in the military is not a bad thing for young men. Certainly not for everyone; however, it can provide guidance and structure, and help instill/strengthen good traits.
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3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
What's the deeper problem? Young males have no sense of what it is to be a man? They like war, killing people?
That's always been a deep problem...
I think the deeper problems are much more complex than that: The lack of ability to adequately help many of the mentally ill, instantaneous internet and social media access to anything one might need to fuel distorted perceptions and views, access to weapons, villainization and hindering of law enforcement, doing nothing to actually help socioeconomocally depressed communities, the breakdown of family units, the normalization of maladaptive behaviors...
Just to name a few issues
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On 5/25/2022 at 4:23 PM, GoBills808 said:
Drug abuse is a health care issue. Gun ownership is not.
Right. I'm guessing you missed the whole part of the drug trade where entire communities have been devastated and turned into war zones, tens of thousands of people have been murdered, and hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost in prison.
Yep just a health care issue.
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6 minutes ago, Special K said:
Also, when it comes to cars, it is illegal to drive a Formula 1 car on regular roads due to public safety.....therefore why shouldn’t assault rifles, the formula 1 car of guns, be restricted for the same reason?
I am actually one who wouldn't oppose restricting assault rifles. However, it wouldn't even scratch the surface of a much deeper problem...
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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:
Those are very separate issues. Conflating firearms and drug use is an overused and misleading rhetorical device.
No, they are not. Conceptually, in the criminal world, they are exactly the same thing: a commodity for which people will pay good money. But, hey, I'm sure that cartels, who see both drug trafficking and illegal weapons trafficking in exactly that same way, wouldn't see the banning of all semi automatic handguns as an opportunity to make even more money...Nope, not at all...
And if they did, I'm sure we'll do as competent of a job stopping it as we do everything else they illegally send here.
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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:
If there are fewer guns, there are fewer illegal gun owners.
Yep, a concept that worked so well with prohibition, except for the part where it didn't. It has also worked remarkably well with Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc... if you ignore the 90,000+ overdose deaths, thousands of drug related murders and assaults, and millions of drug addictions.
But I'm sure we'll do a much better job of stopping the possession and use of illegal weapons....
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16 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
I assume you missed the incentivized part of the equation.
And the argument that law abiding gun owners wouldn’t obey the law is an interesting one.
Well, since 80% + crimes involving handguns (to include murders) are comitted by people who do not legally own the handgun, I am assuming you have an easy fix for that as well? I'm curious as to what that would be...
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5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:
It's time to put you on ignore.... because you. Don't. Provide. Solutions. Or. Ideas. JUST complain.
An added physiological bonus of putting him on ignore is that you will begin to regenerate those brain cells destroyed by reading his posts
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8 minutes ago, teef said:
i mentioned this is the shout box yesterday...my kid's school was forced into a shut down as well earlier in the morning. they had someone very suspect on their campus, so they locked all of the kids in classroom bathroom for 20 minutes while the teacher blocked the door. an hour or two later, the shooting began, so parents panicked. it's a small, open air catholic school with no real security. now it's a fear.
the local sheriffs were there all afternoon, and all this morning for drop off. all of the kids will be escorted to their rooms, and the sheriffs will remain for the day.
i'm someone who moves on quickly from news like this, but i lost sleep last night. i have no idea if the guy was just a random, or truly scoping out the place. to have to even consider this is disgusting.
what's the solution. there isn't an easy one. mental health is the biggest cause and we all know there's no easy answer to that problem. should schools be completely enclosed where you can't even get on the lot without clearance. i have no idea.
You are right, there is no easy solution. It is a problem involving a lot of different variables requiring a multifaceted, nationally consistent approach. Unfortunately, any reasonable national dialogue toward that end is completely drowned out by people shouting each other down from platforms of blame and extreme stances.
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Just now, ChiGoose said:
I don’t think it’s arrogant to look at all of these killings, especially since Sandy Hook, see basically nothing being done to stop it, and reach the conclusion that some people just don’t care to fix it.
If I hurt your feelings, then I offer you my thoughts and prayers. I anticipate that this should be sufficient.
You didn’t hurt my feelings. I would imagine, as I said, that every sane, rational person in this country is as upset and frustrated as you. It is not that people don’t care. It is that solutions to violent crime are not simple because human behavior is not simple. It is not as if there have been no efforts or that there has been no progress. We just need to continue to try to find answers without accusing each other of not caring about lives lost to violence. -
9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:
If they claim to not to be ok with it but oppose anything that would potentially prevent it, then I wouldn’t say they were actually not ok with it.
If the ongoing indiscriminate killing of children isn’t enough for someone to actually want to stop it, then they are actually ok with it.
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9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:
We are just making excuses to be ok with people dying.
I would venture to guess that there isn't a sane rational person in this country that is ok with what happened in Uvalde today...whether or not they agree with your position.
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41 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Tom Cruise. Lots of hypocrisy on Tom Cruise. Hollywood loved him. Then he was jumping on couches and they hated him. Now Top Top Gun is coming out, now they love him again.
I wonder what the Pete Davidson thinks about all that.
And bell bottom pants. They were all the rage in the 70s and then disgarded onto the fashion compost pile - only to, once again, be fashionable. I wonder what thoughts Pete Davidson might have about this.
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58 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:
He is a lot of things, but he is not low IQ. I will not be happy if he gets any leniency in court for being mentally ill or falling under some kind of learning disability umbrella. He actions were well researched, carefully planned, coldly calculated and even documented. Not the work of a low IQ learning disabled person. He should be tried as a fully functional adult.
His actions were absolutely planned and calculated and my educated guess is that he will not be successful with any kind of insanity / diminished capacity / mental health defense. With the limited knowledge I have of the evidence in this case, I believe he fully understood what he was doing and the consequences of his actions - and should be held fully responsible for his actions. However, don't think for a minute his cognitive functioning isn't severely impaired. It is. He's just not insane.
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7 minutes ago, 716er said:
Just as Elon Musk predicted, now that he’s a Republican his political enemies are smearing him by making him pay $250,000 four years ago to settle a sexual misconduct claim
Interesting how the self-titled champion of free speech writes an agreement asking a victim to remain silent.
What's even more interesting is that it didn't bother you or other Democrats until now...
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5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
Tesla was kicked out of the S&P 500′s ESG (environmental, social, governance) index. The most successful electric car manufacturer/seller in the world that has done more for the environment than nearly any company on there. That would be like kicking the Beatles out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because Ringo got caught jaywalking or something. It's insanity.
By the end of the week, I am sure there will be some story that has Musk, in the words of an esteemed former Democratic governor of Louisiana, in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy....
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Now, if he was literally being roasted, then....
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Johnny Depp is, without a doubt, a strange dude. Amber Heard is a toxic human being...
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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:
I still think it has to do with Allen becoming too hyped at home, even though he plays music to calm himself down, etc...
My basis for thinking this is because in 2020 when there were no fans, the splits were nearly identical, home and away, although he was still slightly better on the road. However, once the fans came back, again he was significantly better on the road, just as he was the prior year...which is pretty clear evidence that he either tries to do too much at home, is too pumped up to try and wow the home fans or there is something else going on. His rookie year he was pretty much even...mostly bad stat wise in both places.
2019 Split
2020 Split(no fans)
2021 Split(fans again)
Career
Don't get me wrong, I love the fact he lives for going into other teams houses, taking their lunch money and then laughing in their faces as they cry for Mommy, but it would be nice to see him get a little closer to his road performances at home on balance...
Also...the "more" primetime the game, the better he plays...improving each timeslot from early to afternoon to night.
Patrick Mahomes has played 30 games at home and 33 on the road.
On the road, he has:
1) A higher win %
2) A higher completion % (over 3% higher)
3) A better TD to INT ratio (with 23 more TDs on the road)
4) A higher QB rating (10 pts higher)
5) A higher avg yard per attempt
6) A higher avg yards gained per attempt
7) A higher avg yards per game
WTF is wrong with him?
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What is better, no guns, or more guns?
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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It is difficult to get any legislation passed on major issues, such as gun violence, violence in general, immigration, etc. Polling data suggests the majority of people in this country are open to reasonable approaches. Unfortunately, IMO, social media has created majorities where they don't actually exist. The extreme views tend to be the loudest and most persistent, and they dominate social media (and much of main stream media as well), intimidate reasonable people, and, unfortunately, shape far too much of national party platforms. Democrats block any Republican initiatives because they "don't go far enough," and Republicans block any Democrat initiatives because they "go too far."
In the end, nothing ever gets done. Polarization at the national level only serves to worsen existing problems. Again, JMO