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Just now, The Jokeman said:
Sweat was taken by Tenny.
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I’d not hate using some picks to stack AD and sweat and call it a night
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1 minute ago, vincec said:
This went through my mind as well- if this is the type of player they are looking for, then why didn’t the just keep Davis? Yes, Coleman is cheaper but he will also take a couple of years to develop.
even worse: gabe Davis was a bad fit in our offense.1 minute ago, vincec said:This went through my mind as well- if this is the type of player they are looking for, then why didn’t the just keep Davis? Yes, Coleman is cheaper but he will also take a couple of years to develop.
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5 minutes ago, sven233 said:
Ugh...... He's slow and doesn't separate. Two traits you just love to see in a WR. But hey, welcome to Buffalo.
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20 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Keon Coleman at 33 would be extremely underwhelming.
Bills type character guy who has incredibly questionable skills in terms of translating to the NFL.
He looks like a monster “Mossing” college DB’s.. That’s a green flag but also massive red flag.
Seems like an “ok” player. WR2 potential, but can he beat top corners … ehhh. No clue.
…but if we take him, it screams “we took a swell guy”.
Already exhausted by having to justify the pick to myself.
you have to get a bunch more value trading back to consider him2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.
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6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I think @NoSaint was alluding to this but I've talked about this scenario before with regard to trading Diggs...........the Bills could agree to trade their current pick(s) to the Niners or Seahawks tonight for a future pick(s) of theirs........and then trade it back to them for Aiyuk, Deebo or Metcalf in June.
But I also think that Beane can pull some levers fast to make cap space.
It's definitely plausible.
there are different mechanisms that could be in play if you really want to make it happen. rarely are moves impossible.-
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56 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
Mitchell, and if not Mitchell then Franklin.
it’s Mitchell for me but I’d be listening to offers too at this point that would get me up from 60 or 90whatever…. It wouldn’t have to be huge but I’d listen-
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13 minutes ago, Logic said:
Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me.
we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork?
also gives some runway for other cap maneuvering
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11 minutes ago, Logic said:
Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me.
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6 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
I think you should be able to get Deebo for relatively cheap in terms of trade compensation. You can always make it work cap wise. I do think your WR room gets a little redundant but Deebo is good and you'd still be drafting a WR tonight in my opinion. I'd rather have Aiyuk but I would assume the 49ers would rather have him too
the redundancy being that they are pretty flexible as opposed to one trick ponies doing the same thing does help though -
9 minutes ago, BillsFanJ said:
Nah, you take DeJean. Big need at that position, and there's no one better available.
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22 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I hope this is just fluff Deebo's agent is putting out there. If you want a WR just draft one at 33.
im not racing to trade for deebo but swap 2s and draft Polk or similar late in the round is a path to getting back to 4 viable wrssamuel-samuel-kincaid-cook with Knox/Shakir would give Brady a ton to play with
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28 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:
Atlanta is thinking to get the most out of these old QBs you need to light a fire under them, like Brady re-elevating over Jimmy G, Rodgers over Love, Favre over Rodgers etc. There certainly examples to show they are right.
none of those top ten picks 6 weeks after joining the teamthat’s a 2026 play
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11 minutes ago, Gugny said:
So Beane was supposed to draft a player he didn’t want just to prevent another team from getting said player?That is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
or much more reasonably you could just trade him to another suitor as clearly the chiefs thought someone wanted him before they could get him -
Just now, schoolhouserock said:
The trade with KC was a good one.
The Bills should have taken Legette at 32. The trade with Carolina is the one I don’t like.
Yea but that’s just a player evaluation difference and those happen
if we like Mitchell more and flip flopped, so be it, right? Conceptually it’s not catastrophic unless you are really into the option year
if we decide to go defense and wait til 60 for WR I’m right there with you
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27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
They could. Equally someone else could have traded into #28 (we know the Bills had other calls - Beane told us so) and other teams could have called Dallas, Baltimore, San Fran as well had Worthy still been there.
I think it is more likely than not that they'd have got him anyway. But it isn't a complete given. And I do think there is a principle question about whether you should ever be in the market to help them. Put it this way, if he ends up a stud in KC l this trade will put some pressure on Beane.
I don't mind the outcome, because I am sceptical about Worthy as a #1 receiver. But I think there are legit questions about whether as a point of principle it is the right process.
if the narrative becomes the bills built the chiefs core it’s bad for beane, bad for the locker room, bad for league wide perceptionif leggette becomes moss it sucks but life happens
if the bills traded the chiefs a hall of fame qb and a pro bowl wr to continue their dynasty - that’s a catastrophe
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Ultimately trading back is fine it’s just
1) what do we do now drastically impacts the evaluation of whether the strategy was smart
2) like it or not, if worthy blossoms it could really tattoo this regime/era in a different way than the Carolina trade which was also for a wr. The risk/reward equation is wildly different on a human psych level based on it being the chiefs taking a guy at a position of need for us to use against us in the biggest moments
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22 minutes ago, NewEra said:
To me the question becomes: which one will make a play when you need it in the playoffs.
this year it may be both, unless you are putting a lot of weight on Josh early in the seasonIt is a challenging crossroads
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5 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:
But that's exactly what they did?
Are you saying the bills don't love anyone at pick 2.01?
he’s saying they likely have 2-3 similar ranked guys and not someone head and shoulders above that they wouldn’t want to risk losing6 minutes ago, Sweats said:Well, i don't know about that, man.
If they wanted him, they could have made a play for him or did they really expect he would drop to 28?
some of you act like a trade up is just a button you push and not a human negotiation though-
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7 minutes ago, MPL said:
Why are we assuming Worthy is the new Tyreek Hill? Because he’s fast? Tyreek Hill is a generational talent. Most undersized fast WRs don’t end up having careers anything like Hill’s.
Worthy hasn’t played a game yet but he’s already a hall of famer and breaking your hearts in the playoffs. This is the definition of anxiety and y’all need some meds.
no I’m not assuming he is but if he does become an impact player there’s a pretty hefty weight added now -
14 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:
The second round is where all the value lies in the receiving depth of this draft. History shows REPEATEDLY that you can find studs, WR1’s, and WR2’s here.
Available
Adonai Mitchell
Troy FranklinLadd McConkey
Keon Coleman
Javon Baker
Jalynn Polk
Recent Hits
AJ Brown
Dk Metcalf
Deebo Samuel
Davante Adams
Tee Higgins
Rookie WR success is about situation, and I can’t think of a better one than a hungry 17 ready to put up big numbers without the drama. Take your pick(s) it doesn’t matter we are all going to be smiling tomorrow.
history shows the misses become far more frequent the deeper you goand you are certainly overstating situation
if we get our guy at 33 I’m decent. If we go defense then wait til 60 for WR I’m not in on that plan
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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
They won the last two Super Bowls. LOL. I'm also a little dubious of their ability to scout WR's with spending premium draft picks on Hardman, Moore, and Rice.
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6 hours ago, mrags said:
Here’s where I’m at right now.
I would have been happy with Mitchell or McConkey at 28 without any trades. And we traded back and got, not extra picks, but made our later picks better in the process.
Now, if they go with that DB/S tomorrow at 33 I’m gonna be livid.
If they take Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, I’ll be perfectly happy with it. As I would have been at 28.
Now; with that all said, you picked up the extra 3rd rounder, and now have some better ammo with the four 5th rounders. So i really really hope they are active tomorrow. Getting either an extra 2nd by moving back into the 2nd rd. Or moving up from 60 to the 40s or something. And then hopefully moving up in the 3rd again too.
I will wait and see what he does.
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I am absolutely with most agreeing that you shouldn’t give KC the chance to take a guy that can smoke you for years to come. If worthy or Legette are the real deal in this league we look like fools again. No matter who we take.
i think loosely my stance. My posts this morning are skewing towards certain topics but globally this is about where I sit. -
7 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:
This. Having a history of “giving” Mahomes to KC, unable to beat them in the playoffs, makes KC a team you just don’t do business with. Doesn’t matter what draft grades you have, who you think they’ll take, whatever. You just don’t do it. Reid will scheme a Worthy special in the playoffs and we’ll hear it over and over.
it would be catastrophic for the teams psyche if it happensimagine if we get dejean and he dials it up on him!
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