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Late on routes, late to meetings and late growing up….
going to be a sad story of it doesn’t click soon
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46 minutes ago, Steptide said:
I'm always late to these threads, so my apologies if it's been posted (I'm also not gonna check 6 pages of replys 😅)
I think the clearest message was McD talking about shavers taking all the little things, and dirty work things seriously and in turn excelling when it was his moment for a splashy playsurely a pat on shavers back but it felt like a very direct message about needing to learn the lesson still
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Generally any WR making it to the nfl CAN make a play any given Sunday. It’s why we all love the bubble guys in camp - they all flash the ability to do it sometimes.
it’s a huge gap from a guy that can do it occasionally to a guy that can do it week in and week out - especially in games after new years
with Allen - cook - Kincaid we have pieces to help elevate our WRs but we still don’t have guys that are simply winning matchups at the rate needed
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54 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
It's NFL.... This has to be a huge blow to his ego... But he didn't even really get full real practice week... Like a real practice week too work hard and show he could change....
This little short week isn't enough time to change any minds.. probably had no chance of playing
If he works hard in practice for a couple weeks and the Offense is lagging again he mite get another chance
I guess it’s a matter of whether the topic was “we are benching you for performance” vs “we are holding you out for a game due to conduct”personally, I don’t care but it may drastically shape how he reacts to the extension here
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20 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I agree with you that (what I perceive as) Beane's late 1st round draft strategy (go for high ceiling guys who need development) is problematic.
paired with doing it at premium positions that are also positions of need…it’s very boom or bust in strategy - which I get is the way you find a premium DE, WR, or CB as a perennially strong team…. But hurts bad when it’s also immediate need based and misses
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6 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
I get what you're saying but...
Brady uses different receiver packages. Some are designed to support the run game, others to stretch the field horizontally, or threaten vertically. Either Coleman is good enough to be on one or more of the personnel groupings, or he's not. If Brady decides he has other players who are better suited for his packages (looking at their individual speed, size, talent, preparation, effort), then Coleman sits.
The calculus of these decisions has shifted. Shavers is proving himself as an all-around good guy. Recently signed Hardman brings speed. Palmer's healthy again. So where does that leave Keon?
I don't think it's a matter of managing Coleman's snap count. I think it's a matter of seeing where he fits - or doesn't.
I did acknowledge that it’s not simply ranking guys, in a nod to packages but my point still was that he went from being active in the most packages to unable to dress…. And maybe Palmer getting healthy plus Gabe truly does replace him in essentially every packageI just think at some point if the guys underwater you start limiting packages and giving a few to others as both a wake up call but a chance to hone a specific craft or two
in a Brady fan but it’s a strange transition. It’s rare to see a WR or DL so drastically shift their platooning
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8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Yes, but it's been reported that he will be inactive again this week.
He was indeed sat for being late to a meeting (for the 2nd time this year). However, while he was sat, Gabe Davis proved to be a much better option than him on the Outside. And Shavers also took a step forward with increased reps.
This week is less about the meeting and more about Davis and Shavers stepping up and improving the Offense. That's the danger of being sat for disciplinary reasons as he was.
If guys show more than what you were showing in increased reps, you could lose your jersey. And that's exactly what's happened here. After last week, why would you dress Coleman over Davis, Palmer, or Shavers on the Outside?
but isn’t that why weeks 7-12 a guy like shavers should have been shifting reps progressively?is our WR1 by snap count such a specific role that it took Gabe getting healthy to make a shift?
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I’d struggle with the decision to bring him from essentially WR1 by snap count to no jersey at all after a one game suspension for conduct.
I know there are various roles and it’s not just plug and play 1-2-3-4-5-6…. but to go from 1 to like 7 instantly for on field performance feels like an indictment of his share immediately proceeding the discipline.
it just feels very all or nothing? Like maybe we limit his reps for a stretch?
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No one’s newly brought him up for me to complain about people bringing him up so I’m going to proactively bring him up myself to complain that people used to bring him up
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26 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
That’s the thing….they’re great at winning two out of three, but that doesn’t win Super Bowls….
yea, but if you can win 2 out of 3 against contenders, all it takes is a little dumb luck to get a ring. We have just had none of that luck even when we were a 3 out of 4 team -
They can win one.
they can beat anybody
but it’ll be a struggle to string 4 games without some real luck
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I’ll say this- if we traded McDermott for a quality starting wr…. I think we’d see Brady call games very differently
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Shedeur 4/16 with a pick
maybe will be a tad humbled
probably not
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23 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
That's because the Bills tried to force him to be a #2 WR instead of a #4 WR
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1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
Well, if they ball out in spite of the weather, that would be saying something.
Who knows, last year the excuse was Keon is only 20 years old. Maybe this offseason, the excuse will be he is still only 21 years old.
no, in perpetuity WRs get “moulds didn’t break out until year three”linebackers are 14 years old and will grow into the game when they hit puberty
you have to keep your stories straight
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12 hours ago, Walking Tall said:
I wouldn’t say that. LSU could come calling.
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21 minutes ago, zow2 said:
I don’t even want to see Keon play again. Period. Imagine all the times Josh looked his way, couldn’t trust a throw because he was covered, had no time to go through progressions and took a sack or a no yardage play.
honestly, that may be part of the Josh issue.
he’s playing much more like he did when Gabe was his wr1 and I didn’t think Gabe was very qb friendly either.
unfortunately that seems to be our plan b too
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On 11/12/2025 at 9:15 PM, SinceThe70s said:
Whether it's the balls or the conditioning/evolution of kickers I'm not a fan of the long FGs. Narrowing the goal posts would be a good next step. But the NFL and it's fans love the drama of the down-to-the-wire games so I won't hold my breath expecting changes.
or raising the cross bar!-
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It sounds like he’s a real mixed bag. Players here seemed to like him but when you are winning….
that article was so messy that I don’t doubt he had issues but of what scope who knows. Having the preview/header lead with that he exploded and threatened Kafka then to in the next paragraph elaborate that it was threatening to take over playcalling was bush league. Likewise citing that he “gave a death stare” to a coordinator on the sideline once a few years ago.
no doubt he had blow ups but if a dirty look during a game 3-4 years ago was in the top ten list it all seems forced to create a narrative coming from the organization.
he sucked in the role, and losers end up with their story told by others.
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3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Yep, that was a brutal hit he took. He looked like a rookie on that play not protecting himself better and his play is way down from his elite rookie year. The Texans great comeback last week was enginered by Davis Mills, a perennial; QB backup. I dont "fear" CJ anymore at all.
No, that was Davis <ills that had that heroic comeback, not CH.
I posted here a few times that his rookie outcomes were far above his rookie performance.
I don’t recall details offhand but many turnover worthy passes that were dropped. Receivers catching a higher rate of off target passes than usual etc…
the advanced stats were really bad compared to the actual
1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:My guess is they are sitting him out because they can beat the Titans without him. He’ll most likely be back against us
My guess is he failed his concussion tests, and they will start him the absolute instant he passes and even earlier if they can find a way to get him through illegally
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Uh oh
are the options kiffin, kliff kingsbury and klint kubiak?
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23 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Part of the problem here is people have a tough time detaching from the drought. Obviously they hired a bunch of average to bad coaches in that time. Not one of them had Josh Allen though. What would Chan Gailey look like with Josh? The downside risk just isn’t there to keep status quo. We have 5 or so years of prime Josh left. You can’t miss this window IMO or you might not get one. They’ve already let it get too far IMO.
yea- it’s practically no risk and who knows, maybe upside
I can only imagine what Chan would do with Josh
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9 hours ago, Nihilarian said:
Of course not!
I think the difference between us is that I have faith in this regime to win a Super Bowl or more than just one.
it’s something that literally no other staff has done. They unsuccessfully navigated several cap advantaged seasons without that accomplishment, but maybe their first will be with a lesser roster and voices growing old in the room. It would be a reinvention of leadership never before seen in the nfl. Do we think McD is that guy?-
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1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
Moore is a technician. He’s grossly underrated. Trot out Moore Palmer Shakir with Gabe sprinkled in and you have at least an average group.
thats honestly not an average group yet but its less bad-
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Random talking head says something about the Bills
in The Stadium Wall
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sometimes regresses from perfect….