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Who do you replace Von Miller with at DE? Tre is a zone system boundary-only CB with speed, quickness and(of course) durability concerns. He's not physical enough to play slot like Taron or move to safety. I know you've never felt Douglas was a starting NFL CB but that's pretty contrary to popular belief and production proof.......Benford and Elam return.........and the draft is much deeper at CB than it is at DE.

I remember the first time I heard the name McConkey playing for Georgia and........also being a WR...........I just assumed he was related to former NY Giant WR and Buffalo native Phil McConkey (Canisius High grad) who starred in the Giants first SB win. Tracked a little young to be Phil's son but figured must be a nephew or cousin or something. After never hearing anything about it on any broadcasts I finally looked it up in 2022 and apparently they are not related. Not a common name and to both be receivers......

Yeah they really can't just move on from Diggs or Miller without big consequence. But the highlighted is like saying that the concept of "currency" was created to put people in debt. The want for things you can't afford creates debt. The salary cap was DESIGNED to make it so every team has the same buying power as their league partners........it's certainly NOT designed to be kind to highly-paid under-performing players.........it's designed to create spending balance and punish careless spending.

He wasn't even decent except for for some very limited stretches really. He was supposed to be a stud starting pitcher when he came up with the Twins and had good a strong arm that kept getting him chances.......but his fastball was straight as an arrow. I was always delighted to see him come in against the Yankees. That said, the guy loved baseball and kicked around the minors and independent leagues for a LONG time after his major league career was over. Every time I've seen him in relation to something Patrick is doing he has that familiar addled manor you see in old drunks. That's probably why you don't see a lot of him.

Beane tried to get Reader in free agency but he chose Cinci. Denico Autry is another guy they tried to get in UFA but failed. If TN decides they want to get younger there I could see the Bills pursuing Autry in UFA again because he could give them a combination DE/3T. I'd think the cap healthy Titans would retain him coming off an 11.5 sack season but at age 34 sometimes teams turn their back on those guys.

I don't think Rosemary Jackson(as Charles Davis hilariously called him) is getting to 245.

I think for the most part Bills fans are focused primarily on getting an X receiver early to replace/upgrade on Davis. While Burton can do that.........he has good speed and tracks the ball well and has good arm length........ his height and lack of an extra gear at that size would be my concerns as the primary deep threat. How many times do we see JA17 hurl a flat deep ball and the receiver just doesn't have the length or extra burst to get to it? His raging personality is also concern, as you noted. For those thinking about S/LB James Williams from Miami........similar issue. Williams rarely went a game where he didn't do about 5 things that could have drawn a conduct penalty. The egregious facemask penalty in the Senior Bowl was just James being James.

I don't see where that counters any point I made. It's a straw man because I never said there weren't questions with Mahomes. They were just minor concerns given his incredible talent. And proved to be so. Mahomes threw for almost 10,000 yards and 77 TD's in his 2 full seasons as a starter at Texas Tech. Allen was far more raw and far less accomplished with all of the very same concerns and then some. They chose him 7th overall after passing on Mahomes. Allen becoming a top QB from the place he started is a thing of legend in the scouting community. Which is why it's just laughable that people think Mahomes wouldn't have become great in Buffalo.

Thomas was up there with Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields.........and ahead of Micah Parsons........as a top 5 overall 2018 recruit. He looked as advertised as a freshman........like he'd play his 3 seasons and declare after the 2020 season. Dude just mostly sucked the other 5 years of college. Hilarious that he and his agent thought he was too big to play the actual game.

Well his tape was universally top 100 and almost everyone had him as a top 50 prospect or higher. And he played like not even a priority UDFA. Like a mini-camp invite. I think the rumors about him perhaps having issues with mental illness(depression) might be true. His week was atrocious. He could have a precipitous fall if he doesn't answer a lot of questions at the Combine. Like Da'Rick Rogers type fall.

Well the curse of the Bambino........as @FireChans compared this too........wasn't a curse because it prevented the Red Sox from winning the World Series 26 more times between 1918 and 2004............it was that it would soon elevate a league rival to seemingly previously unattainable championship status and the Red Sox then failed to win a WS for the rest of Ruth's career and another 86 years thereafter in total. Whether Mahomes and the Bills then went to 6 straight conference title games and 4 Super Bowls in that span isn't the point. One SB appearance alone would have trumped any of the Bills accomplishments since. And to the idea that Mahomes wouldn't have been great in Buffalo...........how can anyone say that after Josh Allen basically evolved from a scattershot 52% passer into one of the best in the league under this regime? That argument that Mahomes wouldn't have been able to be great in Buffalo has never held any water. Mahomes was a much closer to finished product than Allen. Andy Reid and the Chiefs weren't magicians. Reid had never won a SB in nearly 20 seasons as a HC and the fans there were antsy about his playoff choke jobs since taking over. His seat there was warm. And at that point and the Chiefs organization was almost 50 years since their only prior SB win.

Trading the pick that became Mahomes trumps the Lamonica trade as the worst trade in Bills history. Lamonica never won a SB and didn't really block the Bills success.........as their roster had really aged out in the 1967 season. Mahomes has eliminated SB contending Bills teams 3 times already and could win his 3rd SB next week. He's tracking to become the greatest or second greatest QB of all time. And contrary to popular belief none of the picks acquired in the trade with the Chiefs resulted in the Bills acquiring Josh Allen.

He was pretty terrible considering the talent around him this season as well. Joe Milton was awful as well. Hartman just lacks talent. Milton is just a terrible decision maker. 12 years of college experience between those 2.

Yeah his performance was inexplicable. Nothing like the player he was on tape, in-season in the ACC.

Threads like this are why we should have more draft talk during the season. We get to the offseason and then with no Bills games to discuss we get posts like this. The Bills are drafting 28th..........it would cost years of first and second round picks to move up for this years version of Julio Jones..........just not feasible for a team who probably needs to roster 10 or more rookies in each of the next few years to deal with cap issues while it tries to stay competitive with a QB who hopefully has another 10 years ahead of him. Be patient those of you who don't follow college football............over the next 6 weeks you will learn a lot about these players and realize that there is talent to be had outside of the top of the draft.

I'm not really sure what any of that even has to do with anything I said. Josh transformed from an inaccurate, bottom 3rd of league QB as a rookie........to a middle of pack QB in year 2 and became a top 5 QB in year 3........which is excellent progress considering how raw he was and I acknowledged that. But Allen didn't pull off anything impossible as a rookie........he was entertaining to watch but there wasn't any "all he does is win" aspect. And getting knocked out of a game while losing doesn't make it not a loss, which is why he had a losing record. The 2018 offense was terrible but they had the second ranked defense in the league in 2018 which kept them in games as well. By contrast, eventual washout-journeyman Trent Edwards was 5-4 as a Bills rookie with a terrible offensive team and OC and lesser defense. Sometimes young QB's show promise and win some games as a rookie. There isn't anything "impossible" about it. And Mahomes was a first time starter in 2018 too and threw 50 TD with over 5,000 yards and lead his team to the #1 seed..........3 things Josh has yet to do in any of his 6 seasons. So Allen isn't that unlucky........he's a great player.........but Mahomes has just been a BETTER player. Hopefully the Bills and Allen can change that dynamic at some point.

Don't tell this to all the people who thought "2nd and 9" was a good call because it was there and just should have been completed. Imagine choosing a 6% success rate(1-16?) throw at such a critical juncture. The decision for that call........with Shakir being the 1st option on a longer air yards throw than he had caught all season........is sketchier than the 13 seconds sequence in my opinion.

Basically hired to be a "bench coach" old-hand consultant to a younger HC.

McD and Beane thought they were being very clever by having Beane stay in Carolina and siphon their draft prep info........from scouts whom they trusted. Whaley had limited input that offseason. He was literally moving his family out of town prior to the draft. It wasn't a professional courtesy...........he just figured he'd gather info from 2 sets of scouts and make his own decisions. Unfortunately for us, the Panthers weren't scouting first round QB's. They did so many things wrong early on that it kinda' boggles the mind.

I don't think I'd give Rex and Whaley that much credit.😂 Rex saw a shiny toy and they made an impulse buy. Then when McCoy expressed his disgust at the trade and threatened not to report they had to re-do his deal.........greatly devaluing the exchange because his then Eagles contract ran thru 2017 already........which would eventually turn out to be the end of his usefulness as an NFL player(and a year past his "star" days). I think alcohol on the Pegula yacht contributed more to that snap decision as some model for success.

When league average is 4.2 and your last 400 carries are below that..........that blows. Like I said, the far-too-modest 4.4 was a bad year in context. Everyone else was running for 5.5 yards in that offense. When he finally went out for the season Karlos and Gillislee ATE in his absence. He was holding them back. He admitted as much that offseason as well. Hugely disappointing first year in Buffalo and 2 low production years to finish. Imagine signing a 27 year old RB to a big contract now. It wasn't any less stupid then.....but that's how dysfunctional the Bills were. It's funny hearing the nuanced complaints about the team now being treated like they are absolute travesties when they were doing dumb sh!t like paying a veteran RB top dollar back then and some of you were eating it up.

I was floored by the Haley trade. My faith in Polian dropped like a rock that day. It proved that he was half-stepping when the SB was right there to be had. One thing I will say about Beane is that he hasn't let his ego get in the way of making moves. Polian kept Norwood in 1991 just to prove that they didn't lose because he hadn't replaced Norwood in 1990. And Norwood was then terrible in the 1991 season. Same sh!t with Kelso. Soon as the media got critical of a Polian personnel decision that stubborn bastard doubled down on it. Polian should have won at least 5 SB's with Kelly and Manning. Great roster starter, terrible finisher. Beane isn't nearly the pure scout that Polian was but he never had #1 overall and/or top 5 picks at his disposal either(as he reminded us when Jamar Chase at up our secondary in the playoffs).

One outstanding year.........rest of his time in Buffalo averaged 3.9 yards per carry. League average per carry was 4.2. His first year, which I assume you consider good, was a disaster that started with him refusing to report unless his recently signed and already fat contract was re-worked and extended. Then he had a bunch of injuries and per carry production a full yard less than the other 2 active RB's on the roster. He embarrassed himself in a critical loss to Philly where Chip Kelly comically showed everyone why he traded him(because of his undisciplined, side-line dash style of running). Season culminated in him finishing the year on IR. He got his act together after the nightclub brawl with off-duty cops and admitted he wasn't following the design of Roman's run game and came back and had his one excellent season but the following season his production dropped like a rock, proving that his good prior year was mostly the product of the system. When he got to Buffalo he was hitting the wall, not the same player he had been in Philly.

Not the same situations, so not much insight to our present situation, IMO. Those Bills were the most talented roster in the league for 4-5 years and had no real competition to their dominance in the AFC. These Bills are good but decades of free agency have leveled the playing field a lot more. Case in point.......those Bills had the league's greatest ever pass rusher in HOF'er Bruce Smith and another DPOY in Cornelius Bennett. The Bills best defender during their current run is who? Jordan Poyer? 😂 These Bills COULD have won a SB. THOSE Bills SHOULD have won a SB. And don't let Polian off the hook for losing that game. He was a hardhead. He chose Levy and wouldn't fire him but he also neglected to add to those early 90's rosters in order to finish the deal. He was determined to prove critics of his player choices wrong. And specifically with regard to the Cowboys........he let Charles Haley get traded to the Cowboys. There is no team the Niners hate or hated more than Dallas so they were desperate to unload him. Haley would have been a game changer for the Bills and his arrival changed everything for Dallas.

Most overrated Bill ever. "he's smart" 😂 Just one outstanding season in 4 years with the Bills and that was in an offense where the other Bills RB's produced big in 2015 and 2016. Because Greg Roman is a great run game designer. His other 3 seasons in Buffalo he was a below average RB statistically. The attention desperate, celebrity knob-polishing of Bills fans loved Shady though.