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Middling, mediocre and decent + no playmakers = a contender for the first overall draft pick As for Mitch Trubisky.........look at the talent at WR and TE Miami has........or the OL and TE that New England has...........it would be very difficult for check-down Mitch to look like the best QB in the division with that supporting cast. Sorry, but you are out of focus on this take.

The Bills depth is excellent.........but most of those dudes are JAG's and rookies.........you win with difference makers. That would be a top 5 drafting team........even the Jauron teams had *some* stars. Rookie Spencer Brown.....who hasn't played in a game since 2019.....at LT in an NFL game? Who would be playing QB in week 2?

Because injuries and arrests happen..........especially the latter between mini-camp and TC. The Eagles are just waiting it out for a team to hopefully get needy at TE. Maybe they give him leave to attend the Olympics and buy themselves more time yet to let some TE blow out a knee in someone's TC.

The story with the drop in the LSU game and a few of the drops last year leave a small concern that he could have more concentration/pressure drops or "yips" in his future. I'm hoping but not assuming it's all going to be linear or even any improvement at all with him. Josh Reed's happen. Belitnikoff winner to remarkable rookie to broken confidence and pffft. You need to stay deep at WR in the NFL. They are a bit thinner at the X or Z positions than I'd like. No real competition at all for Davis job..........and one of the aspects I love about competition is that head-to-head takes players out of their own head.

I will say that at least Ralph was competitive..........if not consistently on the field at least with his fellow owners over profits. It could be worse........Cubs fans endured ownership that wasn't terribly concerned with winning for the better part of 100 years. Imagine if the Bills were owned by a local news rag........if people think the Pegula's influence what's written in Buffalo.. The moral of the Cubs situation though is that it's not healthy or even appropriate to just be grateful you have something to pay for. These owners are selling you the competitive spirit that comes with a pro sports team......it's OK to hold them to that standard. You can appreciate the Pegula's keeping the teams in town but also know that they are possibly the worst on-ice stewards of hockey in NHL history.

Al Pacino as the mod that puts this thread out of its misery.

I think it was co-created by people who didn't know how to quantify his issues and those who wanted to create a defense for him. You could always point to a bunch of times where he spent big money..........the parity encouraging system of the NFL makes it more than an accident when you end up with opportunities to get star players.........and star players will get paid. Then you could always point to embarrassingly cheap things he did...........like getting beaten by the ***** Montreal Alouettes of the CFL for #1 overall pick Tom Cousineau. Or getting players like Cribbs and Kelly poached by the upstart USFL. But it was never just about being cheap..........it was about bad football decisions and a lot of them just happened to involve being cheap.

People like you should ask themselves........how are you advancing a discussion demanding that there is a difference between "one-cut" and "straight ahead" when the alternative explanation for trading McCoy was "it was because he was black and Chip Kelly is a racist". Philly got rid of McCoy and added two high profile black RB's. They also controversially got rid of All Pro guard Evan Mathis.......caucasian. It was a load of BS from McCoy........who just resisted adapting to the style of run game that Kelly wanted to run. He did the same thing his first season in Buffalo before finally admitting to himself that he was leaving those yards on the table and running it like it was drawn up in 2016.

Yeah, the Dareus mistake was egregious though.........he had earned that big contract.........the problem with that deal was solely not having strong punitive clauses for misconduct for a repeat offender. NO WAY Ralph and Littman let that contract happen. That was a careless rookie owner mistake. Ralph wasn't "cheap" by nature he was "mercurial" by nature..........which periodically included penny pinching tactics like "cash to the cap" as an excuse to horde cash during the drought.

No, I just need to learn not to argue with the ignorant.

Pegula gave Dareus the big contract. Dareus' agent Todd France was a former Pegula-owned company employee.........which is how Marcel got the sweet terms that didn't penalize him for misconduct. I gotta' make a point on that because there is no way Wilson's shrewed lieutenant J. Littman leaves Ralph that exposed.

Ralph doesn't need anymore props..........he stashed away $20M-$30M per year at the expense of the roster during most of the drought to fund his expected inheritance tax for his family. He couldn't get good help in the front office or in the coaching staff for the last decade because of the LONG record of bad treatment and meddling with the likes of Knox, Polian, Butler and Phillips in the past. He was always mercurial but he and Littman basically stole from a generation of Bills fans and our kids during that drought.......and then the value of the franchise exploded and thanks to Pegula paying top dollar all those ill-gotten gains from the drought could be put into his charitable foundation to make him look like a saint. The foundation does great work, that's where he gets his props and it will likely be operating long after everyone whose expense it was funded at is long gone. But Ralph deserves props from Bills fans in the same way that Bills fans deserve to be listed as co-founders of his foundation.

Only if you don't understand the difference between McCoy and a "one cut runner". But if you want to instead believe the alternative........the McCoy generated narrative that he was traded literally because Kelly wanted to get rid of all the black players.........well be wrong and look ridiculous and racist all at once. It would be nice if we had more people with EITHER common sense OR an understanding of the game........you don't need both to know that McCoy was wrong.

He was excellent but he was probably the biggest individual beneficiary of Daboll having a great year calling plays that really caught teams off-guard. Davis had a bunch of blown coverage TD's. I think that's why he doesn't get as much credit for his extraordinary yards per catch and TD numbers. Teams will be more prepared this season, like they were in the playoffs, so everyone is going to have to add to their games just to get back to where they were offensively. That's a tall task when your top 2 WR both had career years but they have a very hard working group between Allen and his receivers.......and the OC has a chip on his shoulder after getting passed up for HC jobs so there isn't a reason to necessarily expect less.

Well, technically I guess Moses Malone is the most renowned NBA player to play for the Braves. McAdoo was actually the best player in the NBA for a stretch while with Buffalo............Dantley had a longer prime and was a great scorer but he was more of a one-trick pony and almost all of that happened elsewhere. The Braves had to be the most personnel-lucky of any Buffalo franchise in their brief history.

When Matt Barkley and Logan Thomas were the consensus top 2 QB's in their potential draft class(I believe 2013).........that was more because one had numbers and the other had measurables.........but neither had both. That's a recipe for a really bad early mock. I tend to look at the first round of summer mocks as more of an early round outline..........most of the players will go in the first few rounds.........some will go early like they were projected to though so "meaningless" might be a bit too broad of a term. Go back to Matt Miller's pre-2019 season mock and he had Chase Young and Justin Herbert and Jerry Jeudy in his top 10. He also had AJ Epenesa in there too though..........I think Rousseau was a better prospect than AJ at similar stages.........AJ was a slow developer who had just started to put up good numbers to match his 5 star recruit hype........Rousseau was a transition from offense that proved a quick study with HUGE production.

Some people look at the team like it's their local high school.........amateurs playing for free for the honor of the student body and alums. The reality is that it's a VERY privately owned business.......selling an expensive-to-maintain product that demands a lot of it's fans in exchange for the right to suspend disbelief and imagine that it belongs to them. You and I see the team thru the reality lens. It's a product, we have a right to expect top results from an expensive product. There's nothing we can do about it either way, but the objective of the sport is to be the last team standing every year. Until that happens, there is obvious and literal room for improvement. Pointing that out doesn't have to be "hate". By contrast, people who take great offense to high expectations for the product tend to be living full-time in the suspended disbelief state. So we end up arguing reality with a lot of Cosplayers.

The proper answer is "I was wrong". Funny how people think it's OK to address me with snark but get VERY offended when they get it back.........it's like the "Bills mafia effect".........except I'm not a paid talking head on ESPN that has to tolerate your "mean tweets".

He has a ton of speed but I think he gets bailed out of his mistakes a lot by being surrounded with a bunch of instinctive playmakers in the back 7. Poyer, White, Milano, Hyde, Taron Johnson.........playmakers. I'm fine if he never becomes a great tackler or rises above adequate defending the run.........3 of the 4 2020 championship game finalists had mediocre run defenses.........but he's gotta' start making some of his own game changing plays to justify the big $ commitment at a position that isn't really necessary to stock with a $15M per year player to win a championship.

Adams is one of many reserves I am glad we will get a chance to see in a preseason. Another point with Edmunds is that the couple times that he has been out his journeyman replacements have basically replicated his play. And, of course, Preston Brown lead the NFL in tackles in McD's defense in 2017. It's very MLB production friendly. If Edmunds were to go down for 4-8 games I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Klein and Adams step up and not miss a beat.........which really shouldn't be the case for someone that talented.

Yes.......bald faced lies. Why are you linking Lavonte David when it clearly says "RILB".......right inside linebacker? Are you reading the stat table upside down? I get it if people don't understand the nuances of certain positions.........but the way defense is played now you can be a RLB or LLB without being an outside player exclusively. You totally ignored this point........and combined with some obvious laziness.......that's how you got here crying for a moderator to throw you a life preserver. Darius Leonard is a prime example of what I'm talking about. By his own description he is a left inside LB.........he's not viewed as a Milano comp he is a better version of the type of LB that Edmunds is........but he will show up simply as a right or left LB on the ledger.......just like Deion Jones, who for most of his career has ACTUALLY been listed as an inside or MLB. There are more 2 LB sets than not on the field now.......so in some systems they will switch the mike often. The Bills don't really switch much........and one of the complaints about their defense is that it has become very predictable. They did change responsibilities some when Klein filled in for Milano.....and when they did Klein started jamming the stat sheet with big plays.......hmmmmm. 🤔 You know there have been a lot of people on this board in the past who were very knowledgeable about the X's and O's of football..........but dealing with nonsense like I've seen in this thread is why they leave or stop sharing. There are baselines that have to be accepted to advance a football conversation and you really can't get far when you got people like yourself arguing vehemently when they really don't even know what they are talking about. It's to be expected, it's a cheerleader site not a football site. That's why the mod who played LB in college doesn't chime in on X's and O's. He knows. I'm stubborn and keep trying.

That's just a lie.......you never even looked them up. None of the players mentioned are listed as "OLB" on Pro football reference in 2020. Here are their positions per PFR: Devin White.......ILB Lavonte David.....ILB Roquan Smith.......ILB Demario Davis......MLB Eric Kendricks......MLB Bobby Wagner......ILB Deion Jones.........LLB Fred Warner.........MLB Blake Martinez.......ILB The only one not specifically listed as an inside or middle LB is Jones........which is a technicality by scheme.......he is a mike LB. Which is ultimately what we are talking about here in a league of predominantly 2 LB sets........LB's who often have mike assignments. I really shouldn't dignify your attempt to shout down my point with a bald-faced lie.........but I've been on TSW since 1998.........I'm used to that nonsense.

He doesn't do a lot of the basics........but he doesn't make plays on the football or in the backfield either..........those are among the things he seems more physically capable of than those normal MLB's. We've touched on the lack of TFL's and sacks etc..........but he also had like 70 blitz attempts without even being credited with a single QB pressure last season! He's quite invisible to the casual observer.

Yeah it didn't used to be that uncommon for seemingly obvious sellouts to not always happen. That really didn't completely change until the generation that grew up during the Bills SB years hit the job market and started buying their own tickets. The team could do no wrong in their eyes and they didn't have any Ralph scars yet. So around 2000. Thankfully for all of us they stepped up. My father's generation putting money down for seasons on a largely irrelevant team that missed the playoffs 15 seasons in a row would have been pure fantasy.

Well, the thing with Basham is that he will turn 24 during his rookie season..........he's unusually old for a "top prospect".......so there is something of an ACTUAL man amongst boys factor in his college tape. And it's not like he was obliterating the level of competition as a 22 or 23 year old..........it's fair to question how much upside he has.