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There were a lot of people who were disillusioned and embarrassed after that loss. Might have been the angriest crowd I have ever seen leave the stadium..........fans were absolutely furious with the team...........talking about how the season was a failure and how McD was still Belichick's b!tch and how embarrassed they were in front of a national audience and the team should be for that performance etc.. So........he's correct.

What about TBN..........worth the money?

I expect White will be back for the opener but they really don't start to "need" him back until the Miami game on 9/25. Home opener against TN should be a blowout, regardless of who is at CB. The actual opener is much tougher but a non-conference game........lotta' hype but a much less important game than the opener last season against Pittsburgh because of the lack of tie-breaker implications. Tre White isn't really a good matchup outside against Miami's super fast receivers either but perhaps he can get a turnover or something that you can't expect out of the rest of the boundary CB's. Truth is.........in the time that McDermott has been here they have never really struggled defensively directly because of who they had at CB............ever. The system is designed to allow guys like Cam Lewis to step in and not look overmatched. Not the least bit worried about CB. I half expect all the focus and hype and hand wringing about getting Elam ready could lead to him trying to do too much and ending up injured. Drafting for need puts a lot of pressure on those players.

Yes........like I said......he's big time.........that's exactly his attitude toward the fans........and that part of his job.

Oh definitely..........but you gotta' be careful about going too far into those kind of unmeasured stats when you have an anvil like his massive fumbling issues to anchor your point already. McKenzie actually bobbled the punt return TD he had in the 2020 finale against Miami. He fumbled in the preseason last year. People who think he just had that one issue with the all-time-stupid fumble in the Indy game are incorrect. He's a complete adventure handling the football on returns. He'd likely be a top 10 returner both in terms of KOR and PR if he could be trusted with the ball.........but it's not like he'd be Andre Roberts level even if he could hold onto the football.........and he was pretty easy for the Bills to cut.........so it's not like they are missing on the next Devin Hester or something if they don't play him on returns.

McKenzie's 8 regular season fumbles on ST's in his brief season and a piece in Denver was one of the worst stretches a player has been allowed to have as a returner. He fumbled a bunch more in the preaseasons too. You can't give that dude much of a leash.........he's an all-time-worst kinda' fumbler.

I've told JW multiple times on here that it would be better if he prepared questions so they made sense when asked..........didnt' ask questions and then give what he expects to be the answer before he's finished asking..........not show up on Skype disheveled and then ask a babbling question that makes him look like he isn't prepared..........all that kinda' stuff. He knows. He's just big time like that.

Unfortunately, it's important to repeat the "proven obvious" and not just assume that people remember. If you don't know your past you don't know your future. Look no further than the Seattle Seahawks.........won the SB with the youngest team in the entire NFL........and their SB contender status was over in just a few seasons in great part because they paid a RB, LB's and Safeties top dollar.

I of course agree about entertainment..........as I've said........Rick Dennison and that offense they put around Tyrod in 2017 was simply horrendous and though they actually made the playoffs that year that was one of the hardest seasons of the drought to watch if you care about good football. Disagree about 2015.......Tyrod was a lot of fun to watch that year. Tyrod and Watkins tearing up that brash Jets D in the finale wasn't enjoyable why? Because it kept Fitz out of the playoffs? 2016 was brutal for the passing game, but again, their receivers were banged up all season. That home finale against Miami in 2016.....when Watkins and Woods were both healthy.......was a tremendous offensive performance by Tyrod complete with a last minute TD drive to take the lead in a huge game for the organization......it took a 13 seconds style defensive ending to end that season the way it did. So I can't get behind the "he was always unwatchable and only had a couple good games" narrative. That feels like selective memory. He deserved to be in the playoffs that season..........he deserved it in all 3 seasons, really. It wasn't always fun to watch but his increasingly shy trigger was primarily the result of diminishing skill level of his weapons on offense more than it was his own notable limitations. It wasn't the same as Trentative or Kelly Holcomb refusing to throw the ball when the team was not in any kind of contention. For all but a few games in Tyrod's Bills career he had his team in playoff contention. By contrast, Fitz reputation for throwing games away for his team would have seemed absurd..........if it weren't so unbelievably true. When you peel away the incredibly likable persona........he might have been the most selfish QB to ever start 100+ games in the NFL. That's only entertaining if you remove any expectation of winning games and making the playoffs and are just there to watch him wing the ball around with a bushy beard and his wedding ring on. Winning isn't the only part of the fun but it absolutely should still be a significant part of the fun equation.

When Taylor was throwing for 8 yards per attempt in 2015 fans weren't saying he was tentative and playing not to lose. The team's situation changed.........the 2016(injuries) and 2017(no talent) the WR corps were mostly terrible.........so Tyrod adjusted.........it was frustrating football to watch, but he knew his receivers and his own limitations and didn't allow them to cost his team games and in the process he produced and lead effective offenses that dominated teams on the ground. Fitz had one play speed his entire career.........he was unwilling to adjust to his team or the situation............he only cared to win if he could do it HIS way. For some reason people act like he just didn't know any better........even though he was an Ivy League grad. In all 3 of his seasons in Buffalo Tyrod Taylor played playoff worthy football at the QB position.........he wasn't the reason they lost and he produced and that's why he's a career winning starting QB. Fitz never played a season of playoff worthy football in his career...........the one year he came close when he had the Jets at 10-5 going into Buffalo........he totally ***** choked with a disastrous performance against the Bills (and Tyrod). I'm a Fitz fan........I wish things had worked out very differently with his career...........but he EARNED his abysmal career record.

I actually agree with @Doc Brown that to play in KC 3 straight years in the playoffs would be unusual enough that calling it would be relatively bold...........if only because it would be extremely frustrating result for Bills fans. I can never get into the bold prediction threads anymore because there aren't really many people making bold predictions...........it's people who either totally don't get the bold part..........or just want to throw out a long line on an idea that they really don't expect to happen at all.........meaning they basically aren't predicting it. Soon as you call the latter person on a completely jacked up prediction they try to hide behind "it was a BOLD prediction" meaning it wasn't a prediction at all.

I just noted that you have your angry impulse posts where you like to make a declaration that someone is about to get kicked off the board. Was it @FilthyBeast last week? There have been a few. It's un-manly to be catty like that..........but it does re-inforce your press-on-nails persona which always makes me laugh so I like to have fun with it.

I seem to remember the tenor of this board at this time last year was that the team and the weak schedule made the Bills a virtual lock for the #1 seed or at the least to get back to the AFCCG was a mere formality. Imagine predicting at this time last summer that the Bills would be 7-6 after 13 games. The general consensus was that they would only lose 2-3 games all year so you'd have been attacked and @eball would be calling for you to be kicked off the board for such a notion. So after an entire offseason where Bills fans have been told that they are the favorite to win the SB this year.............yeah there are probably a lot of people who aren't prepared for the potential ups and downs of playing in maybe the most competitive conference the NFL has ever had. There are people out there who confuse this with the early 90's seasons where the Bills were favored.............this is not that......those runs thru an overmatched AFC were much easier by comparison. These Bills have a tough schedule in a super tough, QB and playmaker stacked conference..........they are one of the slightest SB favorites ever(in some places #1 but only a 7% chance). And they would be the first team to win a SB with a first time play caller since the 1980's(and that was Mike Holmgren as first time 49ers OC directing a returning SB champ in 1989, not a team that had never done it). If the Bills win the SB this year it could be one of the more impressive feats by a team in NFL history.

Wrong. William Perry was a beast..........he was a first round pick......those types are generally accused of being excellent..........and he was one of the more impactful LOS controlling players in the NFL in the 1980's......and still put up sacks and even had some seasons with over 80 tackles from the DT position in his career. He wasn't an All Pro like his brother and injuries mid-career lead to some down production years........but he was most certainly an "excellent football player" when healthy. Why am I not surprised that a New England sports teams fan like yourself would say Fridge was just a "fat slob". I know his TD plunge in the SB wasn't appreciated around Bah-stin.

No because there isn't demand for those "regular" seats late in the year because a huge % of Bills fans don't like being outside in the cold. Regular seats have been cut back to address the fact that the team could be 14-2 heading into the final week of the season and there would be $150 seats on the secondary market for $10 going unsold just because it's January and the stadium is outdoors. The Bills have determined that cutoff point is 60K people who will pay full price for tickets all season. They cut the "regular" seats to make them more of a premium item. There are generations of cheapass mofo Bills fans who don't think twice about spending money on other forms of entertainment or products that mean less to them than a Bills game because "that's the price" of that event or item...........but are long accustomed to valuing late season Bills tickets at $20 or less. That cycle needs to stop. Bills know it.

Tyrod fought a huge confirmation bias coming in. He came to Buffalo with a label as just a running QB who was undersized, a late round nobody who couldn't get on the field in Baltimore. That is most certainly NOT what a lot of Bills fans wanted their QB to be. In the eyes of many he had to first prove he wasn't a bum...........so everything he did was always taken with a grain of salt........always anticipating his failure. Where QB's like Bledsoe, Losman, Trent, Fitz, EJ and Orton with prototypical size and better draft/passing pedigrees were all given the opportunity to prove they weren't good. So a lot of people look back fondly on their initial successes..........before they proved that they were, in fact, bums. Tyrod was most certainly better than ALL of those bums. It's laughable that people consider Bledsoe and Fitz as better..........they were turnover factories. Fitz lead the NFL in interceptions in one of his seasons in Buffalo. But.........you know........he "looked" like a QB. Tyrod perceived the higher standard he was held to as racism...........and there was some of that......no non-ST holder can tell me otherwise because I am in that stadium every game week and HEARD it...........but it was more broadly about people EXPECTING him to fail and needing to confirm that.........and subsequently never appreciating his actual production compared to his predecessors.

As I said at the time and still believe........Rousseau was a great pick by the Bills. But he will be under appreciated by fans because he isn't likely to look like a flashy, edge-bending pass rusher. All he does is make A LOT of plays at and behind the LOS..........as evidenced by the graphic above. He also tied for the NFL lead in run stops for a DL.........as a rookie..........but most fans were relatively oblivious to his impact there. The guy played just one season of games in college...........after being a WR in HS.......but in that one season at The U he showed a really unique ability to follow the QB while engaged with the OL.........then level off with the QB.........and use his long arms and Wilt Chamberlain sized hands to pile up sacks and TFL's in bunches. But even the strip sacks weren't spectacular like a Bruce Smith or Von Miller bending under an OT and running the arc to drill the QB from behind. He does have an incredibly long first stride, which is a great building block for him as a pass rusher..........but I think he is a guy who will produce more sacks and TFL's than he does ooh's and ahh's. Perhaps a lot more. His skillset is just different...........but it translates well to the NFL, IMO. I certainly would not be surprised if he stacked up 10-15 sacks this season..........even when likely only playing around 50% of snaps..........and for some fans to still feel left less than impressed..........like watching a 7 footer in a slam dunk contest.

Winning is fun and leads to players enjoying the game.........and wanting more of that winning feeling.......and subsequently they have added motivation to do the things to assure that they can. It has a snowball effect. I remember making this point to his haters when Aaron Schobel shockingly walked away from the NFL...........people couldn't understand how he could walk away in his prime with all that money on the table.......but a symptom of being a franchise that accepts losing is players not being fully invested in the game......and if they feel trapped, even lose interest in playing altogether.

If you are a person who thinks that McKenzie, Crowder or Tavon Austin(LOL) could fill in admirably for Diggs or Davis outside if necessary..............but also shouts down the notion of Taron Johnson playing outside..........you have removed any doubt that you are a football idiot.

The routes are determined by the play design..........which is coaching. But Diggs just isn't a YAC guy. Andre Reed was a YAC guy, he could catch a ball and power thru a tackle and make plays after the catch. Diggs isn't very powerful.......he's quick and fast.......but not explosive.....which is a combination of all 3. Most of the YAC he gets is due to any separation he gets in his route.........not anything he does after it. There is always a play or two that will suggest otherwise to some fans, like when Fitz threw that hot air balloon TD to TO against TN years ago and then fans thought that was proof that Fitz had a great arm, when in fact he struggled to make accurate NFL throws to the perimeter with Buffalo and once that was exposed defense's squatted on his boundary throws and flooded the middle of the field.........killing Chan Gailey's offense. Consistently, Diggs just isn't the type of guy who is going to make teams pay for playing him too tight on short throws.

The rookie who replaced Diggs is better than Diggs. He's on pace to perhaps be the all-time yardage producing WR in NFL history............so, not just any rookie. Diggs was used more as a the vertical threat in Minnesota........that's how he put up about 18 yards per reception in his last season there. Play action by Cousins, then over the top. In Buffalo, Diggs plays the role Adam Thielen played in Minnesota..........the route-running chain mover who is worthy of CB1 coverage himself and just gets some deep shots occasionally. John Brown and the washed 2021 version of Manny Sanders have been decent complements..........but the Bills haven't had a player like Thielen to put opposite Diggs and soak up some of the passes to the sticks and the physical toll that brings with it. I don't suspect that changes with Gabe Davis, who is really a vertical route specialist at this point. The Bills skill positions around Josh Allen are overrated by Bills fans. They are top 10-15 in the NFL...........some ill-informed Bills fans just presume they are top 3.....if not the best.......but it's not even close. Not that explosive and the depth behind the starters is meh.

Diggs is a lot more dynamic without the ball than with it. His kinda' YAC is finishing a 9 route for a TD........he can get vertical and he did it regularly in Minnesota. His specialty is not catching a short pass and making people miss. He's not good at that. And unfortunately, in the Bills offense he is the #1 chain mover so it's a lot of short, YAC-hopeless routes for him.

Yeah..........draft picks have cash value.........especially the early ones. A first rounder is a pick you should only use on a guy with a big money ceiling.........QB/PassRush/WR1/LT/CB1.........the kind of guys who are getting upwards of $20M AAV's right now. The second round doesn't drop off to $3M aav. They reached for a perceived need there. I really liked the McKissic signing but a second rounder or even early 3rd round pick needs to be a player with an 8 figure AAV ceiling still. I like James Cook.........hopefully he outplays Beane's expectations and becomes the actual lead back his draft pedigree suggests......so they can justify keeping him on the field for all 3 downs.......because there really isn't much need for a "third down back" in the NFL anymore. That position is f*cking dead. If everyone knows you are passing the ball it's irrational to take a receiver off the field for a RB.

1. So to clarify.......you claimed that any dime-a-dozen RB can produce on the ground like Devin Singletary has the past 3 seasons but you have your doubts about James Cook being able to run the ball anywhere but outside? 2. There is no "but" about it.........slot receivers were the very last nail in the coffin of the 3 down back. Teams that rely on backs in any aspect of the game haven't proven to be effective in the playoffs for the past 20 years. When the defensive intensity gets wratcheted up in the playoffs.........running backs get no room. That's why teams lead by great rushers don't win SB's. It applies to receiving backs as well.........ask the Saints........Alvin Kamara has averaged 3.8 yards rushing and 8.3 yards per reception in 7 playoff games. Throw the ball to the slot receiver for 10-12 yards and call it a day.

You and a lot of other wrong people were happy when he was traded. Russ Brandon abused his power over uniformed fans by refusing to pay him like the top LT that he was and then making the negotiations public to cover his ass. Nowadays.........if you are a superstar in your mid 20's and your pay gets way below that of similar players........teams just pay the players. The price of being on the wrong side of history is that Peters is probably the only HOF'er the Bills developed during the entire drought and he did it in Philly.