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    If Roethlisberger was black

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    But many reporters want more.

    Some reporters wanted more because he called a press conference; it was a dog and pony show from the get-go. Blue tie; blue walls; somber tone ... and he refused to call it a press conference. You put a podium in the middle of a room and invite reporters in, then it's a press conference. He did this so sponsors would stop dropping him like a bad habit.

     

    Back on topic ... the crap going on with Ben R. has nothing to do with race. To say it does is a stretch. Like one of the previous posts stated - there's enough real racism in the world. This isn't racism.

    QB Poll

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I like Clausen, personally. I thought Pike was so terrible in the bowl game that I lost any ounce of confidence in him. McCoy's fake injury/blowing the championship game killed any respect I had for him. Clausen made things happen with a crappy O-line. Granted, it was in college; but that's what he'd have to deal with in Buffalo, so he's got a jump on the others.

    More reason to stay away from Vick.

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    No sh*t sherlock...he said he already didnt apply himself he was going off athleticism and awarness...GTFOH you dumb a*s...

     

     

     

    AND THIS IS NOT NEW DIPSHIT....maybe to you because you just learned to read...

     

    JAMES BROWN: You know what your reputation was like when you were playing?

     

    MICHAEL VICK: Yeah.

     

    JAMES BROWN: What was it?

     

    MICHAEL VICK: I was lazy. You know, I was the last guy in the building, first guy out. I know that. You know, I hear everything that people say. And that hurt me when I heard that, but I know it was true.

     

    JAMES BROWN: It was true?

     

    MICHAEL VICK: It was true.

     

    http://www.todaysdrum.com/7547/transcript-...utes-interview/

     

    Michael Vick is interviewed by NFL Today anchor James Brown during a 60 MINUTES interview in Arlington Va., Monday, Aug. 10, 2009. ...he said it again on his realty show last night...AS*HOLE....

     

     

     

    and your going off fantasy points?

    Why are you so angry, dude? ummm ... chillax?

    Jeremy Shockey- biggest douche in the NFL

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Maybe three years ago; but I don't see him being that annoying or arrogant as he once was. People got over his one great pre-season play and realized that he was just an average to above-average TE; I think he's been humbled.

    Agreed 100%. He never claimed himself to be the best, and I can't see him making that claim now. He can, however, call himself a Super Bowl Champion - and do so without being a douche or exaggerating.

     

    Oh ... and how many QBs have ever been as arrogant as Jim Kelly? Love the guy .. glad we had him when we did .. be he is more of a cocky douche than Shockey ever dreamed of being.

    What happened to Trent Edwards?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    If the choice is between Trent and a proven veteran, I'll take the proven veteran. If the choice is between Trent and anyone else on the roster (or drafted), I'd probably lean in favor of Trent (although Brohm intrigues me). So again I more or less agree with you.

    Yup. Agreed. If they keep the 3 we have now, I think Trent deserves a shot before Fitz or Brohm (Brohm being my number 2 choice). I just hope they don't.

    What happened to Trent Edwards?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I agree and disagree. I understand where you're coming from, but IMO it still comes back to the way he has been coached. For most of the early part of his career jauron stressed mistake free football, even if it means checking the ball down time after time after time AFTER TIME. Trent did as he was told.

     

    Then we all started putting pressure on Jauron for how bad our offense is, so Jauron seemed to change a bit and you almost get this feeling he went to Trent and said "open things up a bit"...well that's easier said than done when you've been told time and again to be overly cautious. jauron was desperate though. Trent felt that pressure to force the ball downfield and he couldn't do it. He couldn't just suddenly adapt to 'forcing' the ball downfield in an offense that he wasn't comfortable with.

     

    I know this comes across as making excuses for Trent, and trust me, I'm fed up with Trent too...but I'm just not quite at the point of completely giving up on him. I think Trent can be coached back from the oblivion, with the right coach. Is Chan Gailey that guy? We shall see.

     

    Either way, arm strength is still a concern.

    Believe me, I hated to finally reach the point of giving up on him. I had high hopes. I thought he had a lot of upside. Whether or not Trent is the victim of poor coaching, I just don't think the Bills (as an organization) can afford to gamble on this kid for another year. Just for argument's sake, let's say they address the line needs and the play calling, and they let Trent start the year as "the guy" - thereby passing on signing a proven veteran. He's one mediocre hit away from being on IR. This is what I mean when I say there are just too many cons associated with him. They can address everything around him, but they can't address his lack of durability and fear of taking another hard hit. I totally agree that he had everything stacked against him from day one. I guess my point is that he didn't even come close to finding any way to overcome any of it.

    What happened to Trent Edwards?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    As someone else said, you're describing what an ALL-TIME GREAT quarterback can do in a bad situation, but even above average QBs need some help from their supporting cast. Manning is considered in a league of his own for his audibling...you can't expect Trent to perform at that level. It's just not realistic. Nor should it be all on him to make a bad offense work. We need to give our QB (whether it's Trent, Ryan, Brian, or some guy we don't have on the roster yet) a better chance to succeed than we have in the past.

    I agree with you. I don't expect Trent, or any other QB in the league, to audible like Manning does, or perform at that level. What I'm saying is .. Trent NEVER called audibles. He never changed any plays. And he never improvised. The offense had weapons. Receivers got open. Trent's first option was always the running back. He never looked downfield. Other, average, QBs make those plays happen at least a few times/game. Trent consistently never made those plays. I don't expect Buffalo to have a QB as good as Manning under center anytime in the near future. But what I do expect is someone a little better than Ryan Leaf. And Trent isn't a heck of a lot better. It's beyond the line and the coaching. It's him. He had a lot of time to prove otherwise.

    Losman/Edwards

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    I was a huge Losman supporter due to his arm, his scrambling ability and his toughness (side note: Losman could have ran for 500 yards a season if Jauron knew how to use him. Every time he took off, he got ten yards). I held out hope longer than just about anyone I knew until I finally pulled the plug on him. I remember the game distinctly: at Jacksonville toward the end of the 2007 season. I said, that's it, this is simply not happening, this guy sucks. As much as I doubt Edwards' ability to be the guy in Buffalo, I've still never had that defining moment where I ruled him out for good. Agree? Disagree?

    I'm not really sure if I had a "defining moment," but I'm definitely there (ruled him out for good). One thing that comes to mind is how disengaged and uninterested he looked on the sidelines. Sure .. I know no one likes to be benched, but he literally pouted. And the in for one play/out for the year ankle thing was pretty bad, too. I don't think any of it warrants personal attacks, however. He's a kid. He seems like a nice guy and a smart guy. Just not a good QB.

     

    And neither Losman nor Edwards did anything to deserve being called d*bags.

    What happened to Trent Edwards?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I have to disagree with your 3, 4, and 5. A bad offensive line is a REAL reason for failure. IMO it is an OC's responsibility to adjust the offense to compensate for a bad line, and we NEVER did that. That's not the QB's job. There is only so much you can do when you're being asked to drop 7 steps (or put in shotgun) while your receivers run long routes, watching your interior line collapse into your lap, and knowing that half the time your LT is being beaten on the edge by a speed rusher. How do you expect a QB to "work around" poor gameplans by the coach? Seriously. What do you want TE to do? He has to trust that his coaches are putting together a gameplan that will exploit opposing defenses while taking advantage of our strengths and masking our weaknesses...but then, when the bullets are flying on gameday and NOTHING is working the way it was drawn up, what do you expect the QB to do? That leads to your fifth point. TE was given a shoddy offensive scheme that he was clearly never comfortable with, did not suit his strengths, and was easy for opposing defenses to defend. Then we're shocked when he is indecisive?

     

    I'd like to see TE behind a good offensive line, with a sound offensive system drawn up by a competent offensive coordinator. Then let's see what happens.

    I totally see your points, but still stand by mine. Your logic would state that every good QB in the NFL has a good line, good coaches and good gameplans all the time. I'm trying to be more realistic is stating that a good QB can overcome those things and make adjustments in order to be successful.

     

    Peyton Manning probably runs 10% of the plays that are called in from the sidelines. How many audibles did you ever see Trent call? That's adjusting. That's "working around" a poor gameplan.

     

    As far as your wanting to see TE behind a good offensive line, with a sound offensive system drawn up by a competent offensive coordinator ... how many QBs wouldn't be successful with all of those things? Rather than wanting to see that, I would have liked to have seen a proven QB under center the last 2 years and then seen how Buffalo would've done.

     

    I'd bet the farm it would've resulted in better than (7-9) and (6-10).

     

    The guy just isn't cut out to be an NFL QB.

    What happened to Trent Edwards?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    I agree with a lot of the assessments already written. That's the scary thing to me ... it's not just one thing that's keeping TE from being successful. That tells me that he might be beyond the fixing point.

     

    1. Concussion - to me, this is the biggest reason. Not only possible after-effects, but fear of taking another blow like that.

    2. Cleveland game - his memory is too long. He could never shake that performance like the elite QBs shake off bad games.

    3. O-Line - This excuse can only go so far. I think a good QB would/could make some adjustments to work around this.

    4. Poor coaching/game planning - again ... good QBs work around this.

    5. Indecisiveness - I don't think good/quick decision making can be taught. You either have it or you don't. He doesn't.

     

    He seems to be a smart, nice guy. He's got a good, accurate arm. I just don't think he has the "it" factor. If he's proven anything, he's proven that.

     

    I think it's time to move on to someone else. Preferably a proven veteran. There is enough talent on the offense, where a good QB would immediately result in wins.

     

    Having a competition between 3 or 4 unexperienced, unproven, unsuccessful QBs will still result in having an unexperienced, unproven, unsuccessful QB in the end.

     

    Get a veteran and keep Brohm to be an understudy. That's my vote.

     

    Go Bills!

    The way we watch football could be changing soon...

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I still chose him over anyone else. It doesn't get tired with me. He represents the entire lifetime of ESPN. Almost impossible to picture sports fans today dealing with what we did from pre-1980. One things' for sure, newspapers were still in vogue.

     

    He's part of their (ESPN) Baseball group as well. If he leaves, they'll lose me too. I'll get all my NFL news from NFLN.

     

    IDK, maybe it's a good thing. I don't like the direction ESPN has evolved into. That said, there's a couple openings @NFLN -Sapp & Irvin <shock> with recent legal issues..

    I've always been a big Berman fan and still am. ESPN has lost a lot, already. Berman's actually one of the few that I can still stomach. If Stuart Scott starts doing NFL in Berman's place, I'll never watch ESPN again. ESPN screwed Harold Reynolds over, and he went to the MLB Network. Peter Gammons, a baseball God in my eyes, bailed out and went to MLBN. Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann are long gone. Berman's as good as gone, and I think NFLN will win out on this deal. MLBN has way more credibility than the ESPN baseball crew now. NFLN will jump another level if they get Berman. Hopefully, TJ will be soon to follow.

    Anyone else feel the SB was boring?

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I thought it was a great game. Best AFC team vs. best NFC team. Best QBs. Best offenses. Great coaching. An earlier post called it a chess match. Nice analogy. I think everyone has different tastes. Some people like blowouts. Some like great defense. Some like lots of points and yardage, with no punts or field goals. Kind of like baseball, where you have the fans that love homeruns; and you have the fans that love no-hitters and small ball. This was a great game, in all phases. Best part about it was it was played with class and very clean.

    Anybody else have a problem with...

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I think Manning is as classy as anyone in the NFL, or all of pro sports, for that matter. It would appear that he made an error in judgment. Losing the Super Bowl isn't something you can practice (insert Kelly joke here). The guy is human, and he hates to lose. Bellichik is different. He goes out of his way to be a jerk on a weekly basis. This was just the end of what was a terrible night for Manning. I'm sure the Saints will understand.

    Bills offer assistant GM to Doug Whaley

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    Interesting comments, that include Whaley's name (see last paragraph), by an unidentified source after Nix got his job ....

     

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...raws-criticism/

     

    Regardless of whether Brandon nudged the process toward Nix or Guy in order to preserve Brandon's turf, one league insider expressed strong opinions regarding the decision to go with Nix.

     

    "The Buffalo hire is a joke and a slap in the face to all hard working people in the NFL," the source said. "The Bills have not been to the playoffs in over 10 years and that run will continue for years to come. The owner has made three hires in a row that shows he only cares about mediocrity.

     

    "Four years ago he brings back Marv Levy, who was in his 80's. That didn't work. Two years ago he elevates his marketing director to G.M. and COO and again it doesn't work, and now he elevates a 70-year-old scout to a position that requires work and energy. . . .

     

    "The eight years he spent in San Diego he had the titles Director of College Scouting, Director of Player Personnel, and Assistant G.M. yet he never lived in San Diego. He lived somewhere in Tennessee. . . . Someone who lives in another city is away from the day-to-day operations.

     

    "Bills fans can rest assured that, a year from now, two years from now, and three and four years from now, the team will still be in last place in the AFC East. The Jets, Patriots, and Dolphins continue to make moves to get better while the Bills just tread water. There are good people who were very interested in that job, like Dave Gettelman, Scott Studwell and Doug Whaley that never got a chance. All those guys could have helped that team. The best hope for Bills fans is that the owner decides to sell the team and then someone who cares about winning takes over and brings in qualified people."

    Anthony Hargrove - in Superbowl

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    he was a kid who had to learn his lesson the hard way. luckily, not only did he get a "second" chance with another team, but it seems he truly did learn from that experience.

     

    i cant hold anything against him since he didnt commit any major crimes, and seems to have grown-up a bit.

     

    good for him. "too bad" for us.

    ditto.

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