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That’s fine. But we need some elite play making impact players. Bc this is what you get. One and done in playoffs. Mahommes and Reid stuffing you in a locker every year

No I have no preference. ( I just didn’t want Coleman) . It’s purely a post hoc analysis that should be interesting over time to revisit.

But our qb doesn’t play that game. Won’t play that game. Even if you get Josh Allen on his best behavior … all game kc playoffs. He still passed up diggs for a harder longer pass to Shakir. Had 2 mins left. Needed that diggs first down underneath catch -and another first down to get td. so I just don’t think Allen will suddenly change

Had enough of this. I don’t give a flip if he played 4 plays at Michigan st basketball hes “so atheletic”, good agility just slow then why doesn’t he seperate. Dude can’t beat anyone w his agility. And be. Open. That’s a major issue for me. Don’t care about 4.6

Don’t forgot reach poor RAS RBs!

For sure. But there is some legitimacy to a few # here . Basham over creed Cody for Dover dk Elam Like what is their philosophy? Ground and pound and dominate the short and intermediate passing game? Have the biggest guys on offense ?

I’m w you. Drafted for need. Again. I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys. What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players. still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.

I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys. What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players. still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.

Yep. I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys. What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players. still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild.

McD can’t help Himself. We need a DB with one of our first two picks

That’s what I’ve been saying. This regime is all bout finding their “right type” or “character” it’s getting old. He better be better than leggette , worthy and McConnkey

Ok fine it’s lazy. Who cares. If he’s that good bills should have taken him at 28.

Super comparable. Beane / Carolina wanting a large poor separator jump ball wr from fsu

Kelvin Benjamin.

Hes kelvin Benjamin. another reason why I think it’s true. Beane / Carolina can’t help themselves to that fsu / acc chicken bleep soup

***** the one guy I don’t want. Has to be accurate 1) schefter has his stamp on it 2) the fact they mention “Buffalo” and “weather” and “wind” means it’s def a mcbeane line of reasoning. Ughhhh

Yea I hear it’s only good for qb 5th year

I used to care about this award. Never. Again. I thot it was like 50 lesser known guys like Vic carucci around the country voting. Real sports guys / girls. I also don’t care if anyone brings up mvp / all pro in describing the greatness of players - at least this generation and going forward

https://wtop.com/nfl/2024/02/panel-of-voters-for-ap-nfl-awards/ Haha ok. This is a joke. I thought it was like old school newspaper / beat sports guys. BRUSCHI! ACHO! edit : Vic is dead to me

For sure. I’m arguing mostly that the media award is going to be biased. Well …. Based on social media. And that stuff drives me nuts

I hear that. But as usual. The nfl hits their off season “point of emphasis” in the first half. Penalties everywhere. The masses and broadcast partners grumble. and then second half and playoffs. There’s absolutely nothing called. Point being these guys just get held. You can’t rely on pass rushers anymore. Unless they are an absolute freak that can win immediately. and second point - just draft offense.

Yea - I agree. Hes a top 16. DEFINITELY a top 20 pick. Do we have any shot of him at 28? ???? can this finally be the year where there are a million qbs taken so we can get some blue chippers?

Good response. I wrote the above before reading the last pages. Someone posted - happy days? The article Aaron schatz wrote- the lone Allen voter. That is full stop - mic drop - what everyone needs to read. It’s all there. Everything I’ve said. You better believe the twitter mob is real. He hints at it in the intro. But the analysis the methods the independent critical thinking is what I appreciate from him. It’s validates a lot of the Josh “walk on water “ arguments ppl have made here - correctly so in saying he just MIGHT actually be the mvp this year. In reality the mvp / awards stuff is a joke. Wins and Super Bowl are all that matter. Maybe I’m a little worked up now - but it’s the only thing now to cling to as our team isn’t playing Sunday It’s the 49-1 vote that’s startling.

I know what he is saying. Without diving into the record books. I would guess that the #1 seeds generally have a great qb. Or a great performing qb (stats). Lamar stats aren’t mvp imo and are akin to Tannehill. Where Lamar outdoes Tannehill is rushing which makes their offense “better” - more first downs / sustained drives / points. Lamar first mvp I think was legit. This year was clearly odd. You definitely had tua / purdy / cmc / tyreke love until the ravens niners game. A big national tv night game. The fact that Lamar had 49 first place votes out of 50? Pure media narrative bias. Or at best - they couldn’t give it to anyone else - no truly viable option. Dak? No way. Purdy can’t bc of the ravens game. CMC? Not a rb. In reality cmc probably is the MVP this year - great stats. Great weapon in pass and run. Their team and O look really bad when he doesn’t play. And oh. Great o. #1 seed. Race does account here. When you get a loud group of ppl in media and tv calling for Lamar for mvp. I’ll give you a big hint. ESPN - Swagu and Ryan Clark. He has a good / great game vs niners on national tv. The rest of those AP voters for mvp would get vilified if they didn’t pick Lamar - social media justice police would come after them. Not public vote but it’s subconscious now. It’s in their minds on some level. Of course Lamar didn’t win it bc they wanted to give it to a black guy. These things are complex and more subtle. And I’m not even saying it’s right or wrong. But it does have an effect

Def Vic Carucci