Malazan

He's saying the bounty system never existed at all. That's a bold statement.

I see your point and would like to add that Jim Kelly didn't start going downhill and retire until AFTER Clinton was in the whitehouse.

He will touch it lovingly and caress it gently.

He also seems to think Lynch is better than Fred Jackson in that case.

This has all the makings of an epic thread.

If you've seen the patriots play in recent years, they throw the ball in all situations at any time.

Changing nothing else except that he gets voted to the pro-bowl, does that change the impact he had on defense?

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He probably thinks someone should give him $20 for this. Color me glad if he gets the full Goodell reaming.

He'd been on the job for three months? Calling it 'his' draft while technically accurate ignores a lot of other factors.

As back and forth as Bills fans are...Reed was the same. He had plenty of good thing to say when he was trying to get money from the Bills.

Josh Reed Quote from his last season in Buffalo: "I look back on my career and I had my ups and downs. But I think I've been around long enough and I have done enough that if it's not here, which I hope it is, that I can help some team in this league." So which is it, Josh? When did you leave Bain Capital?

And similar quotes get play in the cities they are about as well. I don't particularly care about his opinion, but I'm not sure why people care that it upsets some people.

So the only team that would give him money is terrible! I guess he didn't put 2 and 2 together. The only team that will give you money was awful? NOT JUST COINCIDENCE, JOSH! I'm sorry that affected your ability to pick up chicks downtown

Still married. Imagine the video on Charles Haley: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/books/item_0vgnCTCjhM8oUd6Ahto8MI An Excerpt:

Obviously, accepting this invite is a slap in the face to all BIlls fans and has doomed the season before it started.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/99458855/Roger-Goodell-s-Final-Appeal-Letter-Saints-Bountygate

Five pages on Trent Edwards. Bravo

It wasn't used as a bargaining chip. The players didn't address it. I think they would have had to give up something (in terms of drug testing, a higher 'moral' standard of some sort or that they would have had to agree to strict guidelines on player conduct (why I think they let it go). The players don't just want a voice, they want to have the pull to decide. The important point is that Goodell didn't magically make them leave it the way it was.. There's also the question of 'impartial'. I think the players very easily could have included a voice in the process to gain 'impartiality', but they focused on money. They were laser focused on the dollar figure. This isn't the only point that seems to have been overlooked by the NFLPA in the CBA. I think we're headed for years of litigation over various issues because Desmith got snowed. Goodell offered to share the evidence with the NFLPA (I believe there was certain confidentiality terms. I'm not sure, all I know is what outside what is required by the CBA). They declined.

They're trying to change what they agreed to...in short, Desmith got owned because he was focused on money. They're saying that the NFL did not follow the basic due process (they did). The process followed all goes to Gooodell. So players can appeal...to Goodell. The NFLPA is trying to have its cake and eat it too. That should have been hammered out in the CBA, but it would have meant they had to give up something. The aim in the Vilma lawsuit is to get to discovery so they can get all the documents (names) involved. It's disgusting. Why isn't the NFLPA going after players that purposely tried to injure and affect the careers of other players? If the NFLPA had been ahead of the NFL on this, it's likely they would have been included. The NFLPA should have more concern for player safety than the NFL does..they represent players. Again, unless you're an utter moron, you don't agree to a ten year agreement without having settled this question which is what the NFLPA did and they should have to live with it. That they can throw a temper tantrum when the hand is caught in the cookie jar is somewhat absurd. No one cay say that they were not fairly represented in the negotiations.

The NFLPA should have addressed this during the negotiations. Supporting the litigation culture whenever you don't get everything you want it pretty ridiculous.

I was all ready to come in here and trash the OP for such a stupid thought..turns out..the "Electronic Journalism" degrees from Kansas State don't include the "don't talk out your ass" class

It's cool. We all understand you have something to learn about the game. Don't be afraid to ask questions. We'll be happy to help. First things first, a touchdown is worth six points.

I feel like the Bills giving Stevie a large contract was a slap in the face to him. It seems like Football keeps getting in the way of his hobbies.