chris heff

I want answers damn it!,,

Why would you bother? Manuel is a bust. Marrone and Hackett are in over their heads. Pettine is gone Schwartz stinks. Byrd is gone. Kiko is out. Chris Williams is a bum. Watkins only catches screens. No first round pick. Spiller is a bust. Team is moving. Did I miss anything?

Just FYI the link on this site to the Buffalo News limits 10 articles a month, unless you subscribe. The link at Buffalo Rumblings is different and appears to be unlimited.

You forgot the Tonawanda Kardex.

Yes expansion teams in LA, Toronto and any other city that has ever been mentioned as a place to relocate the Bills.

Now that's funny

There was highlights?

Among other things, after the debacle NBA Allstar Game, there will never be any franchise in Las Vegas.

If this is true and it turns out to be a hate crime these guys are toast.

I agree with you about McKelvin and his body of work. I hope that last year was not an aberration, for either him or Robey. As far as your assertion that the original poster never played past high school, that is true for most, in fact most have nerver put on a helmet and pads in earnest. I noticed that you don't have a lot of posts. You might try and refrain from the use of adjectives like "idiotic" and "dumb". This is all in good fun.

Salamanca Bills

The Jets fan base is Long Island. You have to drve through Manhattan to get to NJ.

I don't understand that either.

I'm kind of sad that this thread didn't spiral out of control, like the 0-16 thread did.

Or people who are trying to prove their the smartest guy in the room.

Ok put Bledsoe back in that means your success rate is 58%..

I would like to go on record that I am enjoying this discussion. It is a rainy humid day in South FL. I agree that the LG position was a mess. I wasn't for over paying Levitre, but what the hell was plan B? My point is Whaley couldn't fix everything. I don't remember there being any FA worth a damn. So who and where should he have drafted somebody? It's funny that you mention Knox and Polian, earlier you mentioned Levy. When Polian hired Levy the general reaction was who? I wrote in an earlier post that this teams biggest problem had been Ralph Wilson, who let Knox walk and fired Polian.

Ok, how should he have done that? Drafted OL over Woods or Alonso? Who was available in rounds three through seven? What FA should they have picked up? Demanded that they sign Levitre?

Knoll benched Bradshaw in favor of Joe Gilliam and Grant traded Tarkenton. Not exactly recipes for success.

By his own admission, since Kelly retired, he has been wrong as often as right (I threw out Bledsoe). He would have been better off just predicting they would all fail.

So the difference in YPA for Kemp vs Bradshaw is .3 which is one foot. So 12 inches is the reason one is a franchise QB and one is not. Wow, how simple!

Do you really believe that Buddy Nix was making those decisions? How do you think that transpired? "Hey you guys I'm going to pick a new HC and draft the QB of the future and then retire, so good luck."

First I don't think the plan was to start Manuel in game one. So Whaley takes over a team with no coach, no QB. A bad group of WRs, OL, LB, secondary are shaky or lacking in depth at the very least. He should have fixed all that.

You kind of cooked the books by just using the AFC East as an example. There have been 19 QBs that started in multiple SBs of those at least two may or may not be franchise QBs (Morton and Theismann). Then of the remains QBs with SB starts there is about 20 guys that weren't franchise QBs. So almost half of SB starting QBs weren't of franchise caliber.

So after almost two decades of this franchise being a mess, it should have been fixed in a year?